Patch 1.4.3 21-27 February - Page 19

On February 19 2012 22:23 Riskr wrote:
Would be nice if they patch it right before the first game starts
Now i´m back to letting my Bc´s get oneshot by a wave of 15+ corruptors lategame,yay!

On February 19 2012 22:49 NoctemSC wrote:

The sarcasm is strong in this one
I know how you feel though. T3 Terran units seriously need to be modified if they are to viable late game.

On February 20 2012 03:06 tdt wrote:
Really concerned for terran late game. We've all seen Zerg have like 3-4 overseers to catch wind of cloaked ghost before and during a battle. With this change Ghosts can't even snipe overseers in an efficient manner anymore to get close enough to EMP infestors. Should have just excluded massive and even then too much a of a nerf due to the fact terran can't deal with bl/inf/cor very well and don't handle tech switching very well so they need a all-in-one unit like Ghost. They day they make it so fungle can't target air then this nerf would be okay since vikings could stand a chance but they dont do well against fungel with corrupter or infested terran support. Raven lol. Guys that's an expensive unit to tech to and is useless after it shoots it's load and Zerg makes ultras not to mention a little splitting of BLs.

On February 19 2012 23:07 HolyArrow wrote:


I always thought Terran being able to get T3 (or, if you don't believe in tech tiers, then just replace T3 with "typical late-game tech") much earlier than the other races was a silly design decision, and this is exactly a side-effect of that design decision. Able to rush really fast to T3 = T3 has to be weaker than that of the other races. You simply buff the units themselves, and suddenly mayble Thor or BC rushes become OP. The solution here seems to be new upgrades from lategame Terran tech buildings IMO. The upgrades can take long enough to research that you can't just rush to them early, yet impact the units enough to change their viability lategame.

On February 20 2012 03:13 hashaki wrote:


I'm so sick about the terran whine about this fucking unit called the Raven.

"OH NOES, AFTER IT SHOOTS IT LOAD ITS AS GOOD AS DEAD, BUUHUUU!"

Really? I've seen tons of examples of smart players using ravens cleverly without losing them. Also, how often do we see High Templars survive if they're moved in front of the rest of the army to cast their spell unprotected? Fucking never. They're weak, they can't retreat easily. Just like the Raven.

So please, just stop this stupid argument "Oh noes, it will die if I use it!"

Smart up and stop crying please!

On February 20 2012 03:13 hashaki wrote:


I'm so sick about the terran whine about this fucking unit called the Raven.

"OH NOES, AFTER IT SHOOTS IT LOAD ITS AS GOOD AS DEAD, BUUHUUU!"

Really? I've seen tons of examples of smart players using ravens cleverly without losing them. Also, how often do we see High Templars survive if they're moved in front of the rest of the army to cast their spell unprotected? Fucking never. They're weak, they can't retreat easily. Just like the Raven.

So please, just stop this stupid argument "Oh noes, it will die if I use it!"

Smart up and stop crying please!

On February 20 2012 03:39 Creager wrote:


I'd love to see some ravens merge to archons after they've run out of energy... oh and HSM is totally comparable to storm, right?! ... dude!

On February 20 2012 03:13 hashaki wrote:


I'm so sick about the terran whine about this fucking unit called the Raven.

"OH NOES, AFTER IT SHOOTS IT LOAD ITS AS GOOD AS DEAD, BUUHUUU!"

Really? I've seen tons of examples of smart players using ravens cleverly without losing them. Also, how often do we see High Templars survive if they're moved in front of the rest of the army to cast their spell unprotected? Fucking never. They're weak, they can't retreat easily. Just like the Raven.

So please, just stop this stupid argument "Oh noes, it will die if I use it!"

Smart up and stop crying please!

On February 19 2012 23:07 HolyArrow wrote:


I always thought Terran being able to get T3 (or, if you don't believe in tech tiers, then just replace T3 with "typical late-game tech") much earlier than the other races was a silly design decision, and this is exactly a side-effect of that design decision. Able to rush really fast to T3 = T3 has to be weaker than that of the other races. You simply buff the units themselves, and suddenly mayble Thor or BC rushes become OP. The solution here seems to be new upgrades from lategame Terran tech buildings IMO. The upgrades can take long enough to research that you can't just rush to them early, yet impact the units enough to change their viability lategame.

On February 19 2012 15:35 DontLoseSightOfIt wrote:


Shut up. Just because you are a pro gamer, the comment of them being retarded was unnecessary and if the patch is going at the time that is unfavorable to you, then so be it. No need to be rude. You are playing SC2, that is even more reason not to be rude to them.

User was temp banned for this post.

On February 20 2012 04:02 Vague wrote:


Hey, why did this guy got banned? By TL standards, the guy that should get at least a warning is Jinro, and not the guy that is calling on him. It feels like this mod is abusing his authority.

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On February 20 2012 04:17 Mehukannu wrote:

TL.net Ten Commandments 1st section.

On February 20 2012 03:13 hashaki wrote:

Really? I've seen tons of examples of smart players using ravens cleverly without losing them. Also, how often do we see High Templars survive if they're moved in front of the rest of the army to cast their spell unprotected? Fucking never. They're weak, they can't retreat easily. Just like the Raven.

On February 20 2012 03:13 hashaki wrote:


I'm so sick about the terran whine about this fucking unit called the Raven.

"OH NOES, AFTER IT SHOOTS IT LOAD ITS AS GOOD AS DEAD, BUUHUUU!"

Really? I've seen tons of examples of smart players using ravens cleverly without losing them. Also, how often do we see High Templars survive if they're moved in front of the rest of the army to cast their spell unprotected? Fucking never. They're weak, they can't retreat easily. Just like the Raven.

So please, just stop this stupid argument "Oh noes, it will die if I use it!"

Smart up and stop crying please!

On February 20 2012 04:41 fishinguy wrote:


Seeker missile cast range is 6, which is massively outranged by both fungal growth and feedback. Seeker missile costs 125 energy, and moves incredibly slowly so pretty much anything can out speed it. Seeker missle also can do friendly splash damage, which is a added disadvantage.

If you want to compare storm to SM:

-Storm has 9 range SM has 6
-Storm costs 75 energy SM costs 125
-HTs cost 50/150 Raven cost 100/20
-Storm does 80 dmg over time(4 secs I think), seeker missle does 100 dmg instantly in a larger radius but needs to land a slow moving projectile. Units further away from the impact takes less damage.
-Storm can be avoided by moving away from the area, SM is a bit harder to avoid but units take no dmg if avoided (this is the best thing about Sm imo is maybe zoning groups of units from fights but with some micro you can move away the target unit (similar to moving away Irradiated units in BW)

On February 20 2012 04:24 Vague wrote:

I strongly disagree with whoever thought it was a good idea to write the 1st section. Of course, it is their house and they can do whatever they want, but, still, there are good and bad ways of treating their guests...

On February 20 2012 05:22 shizna wrote:


ohhh boo freakin hoo, it's a temp ban...

"shut up. just because you are a pro gamer" is the sort of crap that's unnecessary. the vast majority of ppl agree with jinro...

On February 20 2012 05:26 Vague wrote:

"Are they, I don't know...retarded?" is the sort of thing that's unnecessary. Yes, Jinro is right in saying that it is a bad idea to patch before two major tournaments. But he shouldn't call blizzard retarded...that is the whole point.