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On February 19 2012 04:13 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 04:04 GeNeSiDe wrote:On February 19 2012 03:23 FGSonata wrote:On February 19 2012 03:20 Non0 wrote:On February 19 2012 02:51 FGSonata wrote:On February 19 2012 01:31 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On February 18 2012 23:02 Lorch wrote:On February 18 2012 23:01 llKenZyll wrote:On February 18 2012 12:55 FinestHour wrote:
Yup looks like ghost change is going through, better start busting out the ravens friends. Spread broods? They don't do it vs mothership vortex they won't do it vs HSM. It took terrans a year to start using ghost's emp spell against a race where every unit has atleast 1/3 of health in shields, in this game it takes people a lot of time to start playing correctly. You are an idiot, terran used ghosts since DAY 1 OF BETA. I can tell yout his because I PLAYED SINCE DAY1 OF BETA. No they have not. Sorry. I played since Day 1 of beta. There might be like two terran out there who used ghosts once in a while out of curiosity. But never as a standard part of the composition until the recent metagame changes. I think you don't have the right to call people idiots until you win a game. I don't think you have the right to tell a PROgamer who won an MLG and achieved 2 semifinal GSL appearances that they don't have a right. You played since day 1 of the beta? Was Jinro not a terran in day 1 of beta? I am pretty sure he probably made ghosts vs protoss and has a TON more credentials than you and is more qualified to talk about the subject than you ever will be. That PROgamer has achieved nothing since then, because his gimmicks got figured out and the metagame evolved and he did not. And certainly has never accomplished anything that gives him, in his very little achievement and no moral high ground, the right to call someone else an idiot. Your a ****ing idiot, I remember watching Jinro since way back, using mech 2 base pushes when terrans never even thought about mech, even before Artosis became the spokesperson for all that is mech. I don't really like to kiss ass but when I see regular idiots insulting progamer's results and credentials it bugs the hell out of me. His play was certainly not gimmicky, it was some of the strongest terran I'd seen back then, and there was definately a point where I thought Jinro could hold a flame to the likes of MVP, MKP and SC, who were the big dick terrans back then. I dont care if it was a year ago, RO4 is more than You, I or most people on this forum will ever accomplish once, let alone twice, same with winning an MLG. In fact I'm pretty sure that's the farthest a foreigner has EVER made it in a GSL tournament, I think HuK went out in RO8 to MVP, iDra never cracked RO16, no other foreigner has made Code S on their own merit from these two. And I'm guessing being paid to play a video game is a big enough acheivement in itself, not everyone can win all the time. SO many haters nowadays, Guerilla Terran we still got your ass dawg. Drop the sunglasses and dig the beanie out, you can win still. Actually Idra was in RO8, please educate yourself before posting such blatant bias. Also after Jinros amazing RO4 run he dropped to code A and then to code B and was never seen again.
Heh, way to single out the least important part of the post. Not to mention you could take your own advice. After his ro4 run Jinro went on to top his ro32 group in Gsl March and fall to Hongun 1-2 in the ro16. Come GSL May he would get third in his ro32 group after destroying San and then going 0-2 to none other than Nestea (the winner of the season...). So no, Jinro did manage to post decent results for a foreigner even after his peak in January.
I still long for the day in which the Guerrilla Terran rides again in code S :/
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I hate it when a patch fucks with the outcome of a major tournament. Not to take anything away from fruitdealer, but there is a huge chance that he would not have made it to the finals if it wasn't for that incredibly broken ultralisk bug.
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The point is about Terran 'being fine' without Ghosts. The point is Blizzard is pigeon-holing a unit that is multipurpose and yet still not imba at the highest level.
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On February 18 2012 16:36 Greenei wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 15:06 Ectrid wrote:On February 18 2012 13:56 Active.815 wrote:On February 18 2012 13:22 Ectrid wrote:On February 18 2012 12:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
--------- So they release the patch 1 day before Assembly AND MLG? Are they... I dont know, retarded? no wonder jinro has no success, moaning about changes everyone will experience... YOU NEED THE EYE OF THE TIGER JINRO! STOP BEEING SUCH A SOMETHING!  Because, you know, releasing a game-changing patch that will affect almost every pro T's lategame strategy is such a wise idea and Jinro isn't qualified to point out how dumb it is? Ofc ourse Jinro can state his opinion, that's not the point... And nerfing Terran makes me really, really, i mean really really a sad panda.... poor terrans... terrans really had a hard time since release... really.... It's funny because it's actually true, that foreign terrans havent won a big tourney in FOREVER. The last that I can remember is TSL 3 LOL
Well, it's actually not true, because empirical, mid tier players don't matter on a global scale, if you like regional Gamer it's perfectly fine, but don't project your small horizont onto the World of Starcraft 2!
It's like saying, well on the Island of Guakadalafukasifasofia (somewhere in the pacific ozean) was never a Terran the winner of the Guakadalafukasifasofian Championship.
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On February 19 2012 03:44 SC2NeCro wrote:
Sweet can't wait to play a patch with no meaningful testing whatsoever. Yay for Ghost getting slaughtered.
ummm.... they most likely tested it internally.
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On February 19 2012 05:44 0neder wrote:
The point is about Terran 'being fine' without Ghosts. The point is Blizzard is pigeon-holing a unit that is multipurpose and yet still not imba at the highest level.
If Blizzard doesn't want too many multipurpose units then there should be a way for Terran to make tech switches easier or make them stronger . Right now tech switching as Terran is painfully slow and vulnerable and not even all that good.
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On February 19 2012 05:47 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 03:44 SC2NeCro wrote:
Sweet can't wait to play a patch with no meaningful testing whatsoever. Yay for Ghost getting slaughtered. ummm.... they most likely tested it internally.
That means absolutely nothing. You want progamers to test your content, not Diamond level Dustin Browder and David Kim.
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Not having a PTR just doesnt sound right for this patch. why now?
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Terrans, I expect you to recklessly all in for every tournament match gogo
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I guess they just have to wait with updating their clients and play on lan in the tournaments....
oh wait...
On February 19 2012 06:24 SC2NeCro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:47 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 19 2012 03:44 SC2NeCro wrote:
Sweet can't wait to play a patch with no meaningful testing whatsoever. Yay for Ghost getting slaughtered. ummm.... they most likely tested it internally. That means absolutely nothing. You want progamers to test your content, not Diamond level Dustin Browder and David Kim.
David Kim is GM lol.
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On February 19 2012 06:41 Indrium wrote:
Terrans, I expect you to recklessly all in for every tournament match gogo
Is it really reckless if the alternative is to just lose?
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On February 19 2012 06:24 SC2NeCro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:47 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 19 2012 03:44 SC2NeCro wrote:
Sweet can't wait to play a patch with no meaningful testing whatsoever. Yay for Ghost getting slaughtered. ummm.... they most likely tested it internally. That means absolutely nothing. You want progamers to test your content, not Diamond level Dustin Browder and David Kim.
Even if there were a PTR I doubt progamers would spend any significant time on it. Suppose they spend a few hours playing around with the phoenix upgrade to see how it may change the matchup. Blizzard could then just remove the upgrade before the patch hits like they have done before and the time spent will be wasted in the progamers eyes. Yes they may have helped Blizzard but spending that time on playing the current game is more likely to help them win tournaments.
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Uh, is Blizzard really going to ignore all the (excellent, and absolutely correct) criticism and suggestions from pro and non-pro gamers?
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On February 19 2012 06:53 Empirimancer wrote:
Uh, is Blizzard really going to ignore all the (excellent, and absolutely correct) criticism and suggestions from pro and non-pro gamers?
Is that ever posted to them?
I see people having valid complaints and suggestions but do they ever you know, make sure Blizzard knows it and not just TL?
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On February 19 2012 07:18 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 06:53 Empirimancer wrote:
Uh, is Blizzard really going to ignore all the (excellent, and absolutely correct) criticism and suggestions from pro and non-pro gamers?
Is that ever posted to them? I see people having valid complaints and suggestions but do they ever you know, make sure Blizzard knows it and not just TL?
Blizzard reads TL.
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David Kim is GM lol.
Are you joking?
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On February 18 2012 12:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
--------- So they release the patch 1 day before Assembly AND MLG? Are they... I dont know, retarded?
And no PTR as well, not allowing players to get used to the patch first......There is definitely a reason for this, and one can only assume it is quite evil.
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On February 19 2012 05:47 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 03:44 SC2NeCro wrote:
Sweet can't wait to play a patch with no meaningful testing whatsoever. Yay for Ghost getting slaughtered. ummm.... they most likely tested it internally.
The same way they tested the ultralisk splash bug, the phoenix grav beam bug, and all sorts of other problems? Forgive me, but I dont really trust them that much
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cant we tweet at blizzard to try to delay the patch till the same time as SEA?
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not sure if david kim plays anymore, but when he did he was top 200 with random consistently. He probably does play, just no one knows his account.
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