EPTMass hunter seeker missiles will be the new snipe
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Please DISCUSS the changes and the impact they will have on gameplay. Straight up whining and bitching will get you a ban, no exceptions. | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
Mass hunter seeker missiles will be the new snipe ^_^ | ||
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Edahspmal
United States156 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On February 11 2012 04:06 Recognizable wrote: I don't really understand why not every foreing pro terran is switching races. There is no point, before no foreign terran won almost nothing because the race is harder to play, but right now it's probably impossible. Because they are professionals and know that terran is a powerful race and they want to master it. They also don't thrown in the towel when the metagame shifts a bit. The rise of the next breed of terrans is going to be terrifying. We are going to see builds far more refined that anything we have seen before. | ||
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Angel_
United States1617 Posts
On February 11 2012 04:09 Qaatar wrote: How about they address the T early game, and not nerf the already weak T late game? These arguments aren't stemming from the fact that T will suddenly lose more - I'd argue that they won't. They will just cheese more, and the win ratios will stay the same. Seriously, half of the posts in this thread are worrying about the quality of TvZ games, yet you still post like this? I'm sure most Terrans will be absolutely fine with nerfs in the early game, as long as the late game can be sustained on even footing with Zergs. Unfortunately, it seems like Blizzard is content with forcing Terrans to be the cheesing race until HoTS at the earliest. The problem is, I dont think blizzard looks at win rates based on TIME, only the raw number of win %s. Conveniently, so does most of the community that whines about terran being OP. | ||
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Trealador
United States207 Posts
This just further proves that the term "blizzard balance" is a very very real thing. For those who don't know from the WoW days, the way they would balance the game is have 2-3 classes be incredibly overpowered for 2-3 months at a time, thus creating a time for each class or spec to completely tear up everyone else until they get nerfed again and something else takes their place. If you are watching GSL and can honestly tell me that the Terran who are winning in Code S are not the absolute best at their race and deserve to be there, then there probably is no hope for SCII as a game. (Jjakji AND Ganzi were knocked out by two Protoss, you tell me what sounds balanced.) | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On February 11 2012 04:13 Edahspmal wrote: I think that listening to the community is a good and bad thing. It's definitely good that they are making changes and listening to feedback, but to be honest we complain and bitch way too stubbornly and too often. It's dangerous if they make changes based on how much people are complaining because that only positively reinforces the idea that if you only cry enough, they will change the game instead of you having to overcome an obstacle. just look at wow if you want to see what listening to a community does. | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
All the happy zergs out there, are you really looking forward to facing way more 2 base timing attacks from terran players? What about watching way more 2 base timing attacks TvZ in the GSL? :/ And blizzard completely ignores late game TvP? WTF? So glad I uninstalled the game a week ago. | ||
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Jochan
Poland1730 Posts
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Bashion
Cook Islands2612 Posts
On February 11 2012 04:08 CyDe wrote: Is it just me or does it seem like zerg and protoss won't be happy unless... well ever actually. A zerg or protoss whining has more credibility than a terran whining, for some reason. Probably because Terran has way more GSL victories than the other two races? | ||
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Garmer
1286 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8263 Posts
On February 11 2012 04:11 Kashll wrote: No way real APM is coming back? I never though I'd live to see the day. Thank god. Well. still not completely real apm. It will still be based on the wrong ingame speed, and thus show slightly less apm than what you really have. | ||
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adwodon
United Kingdom592 Posts
Snipe change is perhaps a bit much, it needs a change though. I cant say much for other races as I play Terran but for gods sake if they want to nerf us could they please address the Raven? The Battlecruiser (at least remove the energy bar so feedback doesn't kill everything)? If they are willing to put in upgrades to fix a problem wheres the hive tech speed boost for Hydras?! Its a good patch, but theres still some huge problems. Terrans higher tech units (bar ghost) are garbage, ghost made up for that, with the nerf I would've hoped to able to use those 2 other units we have that are supposed to fill late game roles. | ||
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Roxy
Canada753 Posts
On February 11 2012 04:09 Qaatar wrote: How about they address the T early game, and not nerf the already weak T late game? These arguments aren't stemming from the fact that T will suddenly lose more - I'd argue that they won't. They will just cheese more, and the win ratios will stay the same. Seriously, half of the posts in this thread are worrying about the quality of TvZ games, yet you still post like this? I'm sure most Terrans will be absolutely fine with nerfs in the early game, as long as the late game can be sustained on even footing with Zergs. Unfortunately, it seems like Blizzard is content with forcing Terrans to be the cheesing race until HoTS at the earliest. I would happily accept a T buff lategame if there was a T nerf early game delicate though. immortal and voidray all-ins are pretty strong against terran. what nerf/buff would you suggest? I would personaly like to see a little love for the raven. | ||
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blinkingangels
105 Posts
On February 11 2012 04:10 Lorch wrote: Nony once talked about this on sotg, blizzard actually does this very smartly by buffing a unit (maybe even too much) to make sure people use it a lot (which kinda happened with the infestor which was heavily underused before the buff) and then they can still nerf it to make it perfectly balanced. You guys are all just mad that the game is starting to be actually balanced and terran is no longer by far the strongest race. You suck at tvp now because you were so used to emp stim-a-move roflstomp protoss before the emp nerf and now you can't just build ghost to kill everything tvz lategame. As terran becomes less OP it also becomes more skillful to play, and especially in lower leagues (aka what 90% of the people on tl are in) skill is something everyone lacks so a lot of people are having a hard time as their race is not as easy as it used to be. Also I can't believe that you guys don't have the skills to play terran right is even a valid argument, unless you love winning (in which case you should play another game tbh) you probably play starcraft because you love the challenge it gives you to push yourself and improve, if your skills aren't enough (in your eyes) to play terran right then get of these forums, start practicing, and actually get better. Except protoss was the a move race, not terran. Toss still has the scariest deathball in the game, and it has always taken terran far more skill and caution to engage into it, especially in lower leagues. Improving your skill to play a race is a good thing, but when it takes MORE skill to win against people in your level, there's a problem... | ||
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Tulkas25
Greece292 Posts
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Norway8263 Posts
On February 11 2012 04:15 Roxy wrote: I would happily accept a T buff lategame if there was a T nerf early game delicate though. immortal and voidray all-ins are pretty strong against terran. what nerf/buff would you suggest? I would personaly like to see a little love for the raven. A 5 second decrease in bunker build time should do it.. | ||
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andiCR
Costa Rica2273 Posts
On February 11 2012 04:11 Kashll wrote: No way real APM is coming back? I never though I'd live to see the day. Thank god. THIS x 10000000 | ||
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Darksoldierr
Hungary2013 Posts
On February 11 2012 04:14 sAsImre wrote: just look at wow if you want to see what listening to a community does. Actually at MMO listening to the majority is better overall, as for here, i highly agree with you | ||
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dave333
United States915 Posts
On February 11 2012 04:09 clusen wrote: The thing is(and I don't even play T, I play Z but have played my fair share of games with random) T is harder to play at mid masters level compared to Z and especially P. So while T might be the best race at the highest level(and I don't think that even that is the case anymore) most players don't have the skill to take advantage of that fact. Of course you are pissed if you are in that situaiton :p And it should be perfectly fine. Difficulties arising at different skill levels is perfectly normal at any competitive game with options. For example, choosing a 2 hand backhand or a 1 hand backhand in tennis. The 1 hander is harder to to learn when you are first starting, and you will probably struggle with it in comparison to doing a two hander. But once people start playing at higher levels, the 2 hander will have a harder time learning how to slice. At the upper levels, they are pretty damn even (unless you're talking Rafa vs Federer, in which case that 1 hander is a disadvantage). What really matters is that the top levels are balanced, and that the lower levels aren't grossly imbalanced. I wouldn't say nerfing the complete zerg t3 counter leads to a gross imbalance. Far from it really. | ||
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werynais
Germany1780 Posts
On February 11 2012 04:07 Yaki wrote: Sorry but ghost 150/150 to 200/100 was a buff. Yes, thats what i said Oo | ||
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