EPTUI still sub-par 2 years later. Why don't we care? - Page 63
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WArped
United Kingdom4845 Posts
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voy
Poland348 Posts
On February 20 2012 07:00 beetlelisk wrote: Wait, a bronze player got straight to GM? Wat? Nice of a bug blizz got there. there is no bug and bronze is not an issue there. . read the topic. the problem is that only the inactivity or ladder reset can demote from GM. | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
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PurpleZuzpeqt
Sweden9 Posts
It really feels like your all alone when playing. Been playing the game since it came out, and now its just boring but you play it anyways cuz u speend 2yrs on it. Its like i wanna switch LoL but it feels like 2yrs waste of life, time and skill...back2basics. How can blizzard not care about what their CUSTOMERS think,the customer is allways righ you know... we buy your games so you can work and feed your family, and u don't wanna listen? it's like biting the hand that feeds y ou... dumb C'mon and get this stuff fixed, don't be so fking greedy. It's a lifestyle, you pee on it. Does anybody got a number for me? Daddy fixing... | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
On February 20 2012 18:23 PurpleZuzpeqt wrote: Really nice topic, and i agree with everything. It really feels like your all alone when playing. Been playing the game since it came out, and now its just boring but you play it anyways cuz u speend 2yrs on it. Its like i wanna switch LoL but it feels like 2yrs waste of life, time and skill...back2basics. How can blizzard not care about what their CUSTOMERS think,the customer is allways righ you know... we buy your games so you can work and feed your family, and u don't wanna listen? it's like biting the hand that feeds y ou... dumb C'mon and get this stuff fixed, don't be so fking greedy. It's a lifestyle, you pee on it. Does anybody got a number for me? Daddy fixing... I appreciate your enthusiasm and support, but remember: Blizzard doesn't need us. The total number of people willing to not buy future games over these issues is small, especially compared to the number of total potential customers. We're not the hand that feeds them, and we won't get anywhere with threats or rage (though I can understand either). We have to make those responsible understand our passion and our disappointment through numbers, patience and, as far as possible, civil conduct. | ||
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Thylacine
Sweden882 Posts
We have to make those responsible understand our passion and our disappointment through numbers, patience and, as far as possible, civil conduct. We are doing this tho, even tho some people are trying to ruin it by supporting blizzard and saying ''bnet is fine...''. ANYWAY, the best thing to do atm is: - Bump the threads on US/EU/SEA forums. Blizzard read those forums alot - Bump this thread and type why you dislike BN.et and agree with Shockk - Get your sc2 friends to register on Tl.net and post in this thread, also make them post on the sc2 forums. - Hold up signs at MLG's and stuff with criticism of BNet 2.0 :D It's good. - Lastly, dont give up until those bastards answer us and promise us they're gonna fix it. Even if they plan on doing it for HotS, dont let them keep it a secret for 1-2 years until Hots is out... Thanks. | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2624973006 Thanks to Zanazuah for the link, added to the OP. | ||
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Fishes
United Kingdom47 Posts
I didn't play SC/BW so I don't know much about that but I played WC3 for 6 years. I uninstalled it a few times but guess what kept me coming back? The community! I had friends from playing custom games, friends who I helped test custom maps with, old clanmates, and I was also an avid mapper. Also, that's 6 years of not laddering (yeah, I never really got into ladder, but I admired people who did). There was no real stress on players in warcraft 3. You weren't limited to a single account for a copy of the game so if your stats were terrible on one you could make a new one and use that. SC2's custom game system is terrible. Sure, some things are easier like getting a group of people into a custom game, but with SC2's system new maps are going to have a very hard time becoming popular, In warcraft 3 if someone released a new map they could simply make a game, call it 'New map come help test <3' and get a bunch of friendly people to rate it. Now guess what? SC2 modding is dying because it is SO hard to get a new map out there. Never mind custom games, sometimes I want to find a certain map and its pretty hard. I can type MLG Metalopolis and I get a list of 100 maps which 80% of have nothing to do with 'MLG' or 'Metalopolis'. The UI suggestions in the opening post were probably some of the more obvious improvements and is how Blizzard should have made it to begin with. Seriously Blizztards what were you thinking? | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
It's now been over two weeks since this whole thing started. With 80 posts on the polish, 132 on the german, 300 on the english and 1.778 (across four threads) on the american forums, we're at well over 2.000 posts without any Blizzard reply. That's a total of seven spotlighted "popular" threads and over 110 pages full of comments. | ||
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Gwypaas
Sweden41 Posts
Just look at this, the lead designer of Battle.net 0.2 clearly never has touched battle.net 1.0, bet he spent his life playing console games. And then he mentions where they took ideas in this exact order XBOX Live -> Playstation Network -> Steam... Go to 5.15 http://www.g4tv.com/videos/44223/starcraft-ii-beta-interview-greg-canessa/ | ||
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SugarBear
United States842 Posts
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
On February 21 2012 08:10 Fishes wrote: I agree with everything that I've read so far about BNet 2.0. I didn't play SC/BW so I don't know much about that but I played WC3 for 6 years. I uninstalled it a few times but guess what kept me coming back? The community! I had friends from playing custom games, friends who I helped test custom maps with, old clanmates, and I was also an avid mapper. Also, that's 6 years of not laddering (yeah, I never really got into ladder, but I admired people who did). There was no real stress on players in warcraft 3. You weren't limited to a single account for a copy of the game so if your stats were terrible on one you could make a new one and use that. SC2's custom game system is terrible. Sure, some things are easier like getting a group of people into a custom game, but with SC2's system new maps are going to have a very hard time becoming popular, In warcraft 3 if someone released a new map they could simply make a game, call it 'New map come help test <3' and get a bunch of friendly people to rate it. Now guess what? SC2 modding is dying because it is SO hard to get a new map out there. Never mind custom games, sometimes I want to find a certain map and its pretty hard. I can type MLG Metalopolis and I get a list of 100 maps which 80% of have nothing to do with 'MLG' or 'Metalopolis'. The UI suggestions in the opening post were probably some of the more obvious improvements and is how Blizzard should have made it to begin with. Seriously Blizztards what were you thinking? Yeah the map searching, jesus. It's so hard to find a map sometimes, I keep on playing the same maps because I can find them in "recently played" but looking for a new one is real pain in the ass. Why is there no "(current) ladder maps" option? | ||
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Karawasa
United States58 Posts
On February 21 2012 23:02 SugarBear wrote: Not only will I not be buying D3 until the UI is fixed, I'll be using the Diablo 3 money to buy DotA2. DotA2 has a lot of promise as an eSport and I can see it being even more successful than SC2, honestly. I'll be using my HotS money towards DotA2, unless they completely fix the BNET UI. Regarding DotA2 as an eSport, it will eclipse SC2. Of course my assumption for that statement is DotA2 > DotA. Just look at how well DotA did, within the confines of WC3. | ||
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BlindSight754
Canada156 Posts
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zazone
Romania460 Posts
On February 21 2012 16:01 Gwypaas wrote: I find it funny how when you look at Blizzard videos about their new awesome Battle.net 2.0 back from 2009 and 2010 all they talk about is how easy it will be to connect and interact with people, but then they don't include the most social part of WC3, moderated clan channels. Just look at this, the lead designer of Battle.net 0.2 clearly never has touched battle.net 1.0, bet he spent his life playing console games. And then he mentions where they took ideas in this exact order XBOX Live -> Playstation Network -> Steam... Go to 5.15 http://www.g4tv.com/videos/44223/starcraft-ii-beta-interview-greg-canessa/ I think I'm going to fucking puke after listening to that happy retard talking about his marvelous creation. | ||
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jackdaniels
29 Posts
On February 22 2012 05:10 BlindSight754 wrote: Blizzard just doesnt care about the customer anymore. They got our $60 when we purchased the game and its not like we're feeding them more money. They take the professional scene for granted and a way to milk money out of the fanbase. Spot on, the only thing I would add is they are trying to find way to basically rob us out of our money by charging for such a simple thing like changing your username! What a bunch of corporate titans with no feel for the game or community this company has become! | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On February 21 2012 04:38 Zanazuah wrote: We are doing this tho, even tho some people are trying to ruin it by supporting blizzard and saying ''bnet is fine...''. ANYWAY, the best thing to do atm is: - Bump the threads on US/EU/SEA forums. Blizzard read those forums alot - Bump this thread and type why you dislike BN.et and agree with Shockk - Get your sc2 friends to register on Tl.net and post in this thread, also make them post on the sc2 forums. - Hold up signs at MLG's and stuff with criticism of BNet 2.0 :D It's good. - Lastly, dont give up until those bastards answer us and promise us they're gonna fix it. Even if they plan on doing it for HotS, dont let them keep it a secret for 1-2 years until Hots is out... Thanks. The real problem is that most people are going to end up buying HotS unconditionally. I'm one of the few people here that has openly stated that things would have to drastically change or I won't be purchasing HotS and If I'm a minority here in TL, than how miniscule do you think our position is? CoD boycott was the same, people on the internet are nothing but talk. | ||
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Thylacine
Sweden882 Posts
On February 22 2012 06:04 Ysellian wrote: The real problem is that most people are going to end up buying HotS unconditionally. I'm one of the few people here that has openly stated that things would have to drastically change or I won't be purchasing HotS and If I'm a minority here in TL, than how miniscule do you think our position is? CoD boycott was the same, people on the internet are nothing but talk. I think the people who are not gonna buy HotS unless blizz fix the game are not so few actually. I think many people share your view - sadly not me, I really want those new units and play the game competetively. Anyhow, even if we all will buy HotS (we all aint gonna do it) blizzard will react to enough criticism. We asked for name change, we got it eventually, long ago we asked for chat channels, we got it eventually. And this is a huge thing we're doing here, I swear they wont ignore it. | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
On February 22 2012 06:15 Zanazuah wrote: I think the people who are not gonna buy HotS unless blizz fix the game are not so few actually. I think many people share your view - sadly not me, I really want those new units and play the game competetively. Anyhow, even if we all will buy HotS (we all aint gonna do it) blizzard will react to enough criticism. We asked for name change, we got it eventually, long ago we asked for chat channels, we got it eventually. And this is a huge thing we're doing here, I swear they wont ignore it. I don't share your optimism. We didn't "ask" for chat channels; the forums erupted and gaming media scoffed Blizzard for the audacity of not releasing chat. This and Real ID were the two major things were the community really had a single opinion (except for some trolls here and there) and where the media joined in. The name change? We didn't get name change. Blizzard decided to grace us with a single free change, and this after ignoring the topic for over a year despite the same functionality existing in WoW and people willing to actually shell out money for this travesty. Seriously, players literally begged on the forums for Blizzard to implement a paid name change so that they could throw money at them. This interface discussion? It's not huge. It's large, I'll admit, and by forum standards, it's also getting pretty long lived. But just take a look at this thread. Or the official forums. The majority doesn't care. A vocal minority even enjoys being cheated as a consumer and will happily and loudly defend their right to get less features for their cash. Do not trust Blizzard. Don't assume they "won't ignore it". Because they can, and chances are they will. Don't be surprised if Blizzard never reacts. And don't get your hopes up if they do. Heck, even if they respond and acknowledge the whole thing - they'll probably release HotS as some half-assed product and promise improvements for LotV. Dedicated gamers are no longer Blizzard's target demographic. We're too choosy, our expectations are too high, and we're high-maintenance. Doesn't mean there are no games for us, just means it's probably not going to be Blizzard titles for all eternity. We'll keep this discussion going - at least I will - and I hope we'll also manage to keep the threads on the official boards alive, and maybe we'll see a blue response some day. But don't blindly hope for a good ending. There's a high probability we won't get one. | ||
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wunsun
Canada622 Posts
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