• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:51
CEST 10:51
KST 17:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High14Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments2[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon10
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 15-21): herO Goes For Four0StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes199BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch2Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes Weekly Cups (Sept 15-21): herO Goes For Four Why Storm Should NOT Be Nerfed – A Core Part of Pr Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps! #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Stellar Fest KSL Week 80 StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High Old rep packs of BW legends ASL ro8 Upper Bracket HYPE VIDEO
Tourneys
SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN [ASL20] Ro8 Day 1 [ASL20] Ro16 Group D BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Borderlands 3 General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Why can't Americans stop ea…
Peanutsc
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2165 users

Golden and Dragon leave SlayerS - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
675 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 32 33 34 Next All
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
January 16 2012 07:48 GMT
#21
It seems to me like all of the players who attempt to join foreign teams think they're worth a lot more than they actually are. They will probably be disappointed when the offers are smaller, and their play usually gets worse from lack of a good training environment. Rain used to be a GSL finalist, now he's about as good as an average Korean terran. Probably not even that good.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 16 2012 07:49 GMT
#22
Any confirmation from SlayerS management?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
January 16 2012 07:49 GMT
#23
On January 16 2012 16:48 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 16:45 Diamond wrote:
On January 16 2012 16:42 Xeris wrote:
I.E. I know when I was still with Fnatic, we approached Sleep, and he was asking for something in the range of $1.5k .. I know Sangho is currently looking for something along the lines of $3k .


Wow those are pretty high numbers. 0_o

Anyone that pays $3k for SangHo is out of their minds.


Hence why neither of them have found teams.

YAY FINALLY SOME INSIGHT INTO SALARIES THAT PLAYERS MAKE AND OUR ARE LOOKING FOR THANK YOU
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
KeyHunt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States218 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 07:50:30
January 16 2012 07:50 GMT
#24
On January 16 2012 16:36 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 16:35 Seeker wrote:
Oh come on...... why would anyone in their right mind leave SlayerS!!! >:[

None the less....

GOOD LUCK GOLDEN!!!

LighT or Liquid should pick him up :D


Seems like many Koreans have illusions of grandeur on how much they are worth to foreign teams and leave because of that.

I hope this is not the case here and he just wants to be part of the foreign scene, but who knows.



Quoted for truth.....A complete disconnect from reality a lot of players are experiencing right now.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 16 2012 07:50 GMT
#25
On January 16 2012 16:49 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 16:48 Xeris wrote:
On January 16 2012 16:45 Diamond wrote:
On January 16 2012 16:42 Xeris wrote:
I.E. I know when I was still with Fnatic, we approached Sleep, and he was asking for something in the range of $1.5k .. I know Sangho is currently looking for something along the lines of $3k .


Wow those are pretty high numbers. 0_o

Anyone that pays $3k for SangHo is out of their minds.


Hence why neither of them have found teams.

YAY FINALLY SOME INSIGHT INTO SALARIES THAT PLAYERS MAKE AND OUR ARE LOOKING FOR THANK YOU


Erm, I think your caps button is stuck...
StarMoon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada682 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 07:51:40
January 16 2012 07:51 GMT
#26
On January 16 2012 16:42 Xeris wrote:

I.E. I know when I was still with Fnatic, we approached Sleep, and he was asking for something in the range of $1.5k .. I know Sangho is currently looking for something along the lines of $3k .

So crazy -- its why almost all the Koreans who post about looking for foreign team, still haven't found one T_T


1.5k/3k a month? a day? what?

And Kennigit's reaction, care to elaborate for those of us who are uninitiated?
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
January 16 2012 07:51 GMT
#27
On January 16 2012 16:50 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 16:49 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On January 16 2012 16:48 Xeris wrote:
On January 16 2012 16:45 Diamond wrote:
On January 16 2012 16:42 Xeris wrote:
I.E. I know when I was still with Fnatic, we approached Sleep, and he was asking for something in the range of $1.5k .. I know Sangho is currently looking for something along the lines of $3k .


Wow those are pretty high numbers. 0_o

Anyone that pays $3k for SangHo is out of their minds.


Hence why neither of them have found teams.

YAY FINALLY SOME INSIGHT INTO SALARIES THAT PLAYERS MAKE AND OUR ARE LOOKING FOR THANK YOU


Erm, I think your caps button is stuck...

sry!!
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
January 16 2012 07:51 GMT
#28
On January 16 2012 16:51 StarMoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 16:42 Xeris wrote:

I.E. I know when I was still with Fnatic, we approached Sleep, and he was asking for something in the range of $1.5k .. I know Sangho is currently looking for something along the lines of $3k .

So crazy -- its why almost all the Koreans who post about looking for foreign team, still haven't found one T_T


1.5k/3k a month? a day? what?

And Kenniget's reaction, care to elaborate for those of us who are uninitiated?

month
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
January 16 2012 07:52 GMT
#29
On January 16 2012 16:36 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 16:35 Seeker wrote:
Oh come on...... why would anyone in their right mind leave SlayerS!!! >:[

None the less....

GOOD LUCK GOLDEN!!!

LighT or Liquid should pick him up :D


Seems like many Koreans have illusions of grandeur on how much they are worth to foreign teams and leave because of that.

I hope this is not the case here and he just wants to be part of the foreign scene, but who knows.


I have that feeling too sadly.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Oiseaux
Profile Joined May 2011
United States676 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 07:52:40
January 16 2012 07:52 GMT
#30
On January 16 2012 16:42 Xeris wrote:
I.E. I know when I was still with Fnatic, we approached Sleep, and he was asking for something in the range of $1.5k .. I know Sangho is currently looking for something along the lines of $3k .


Are those figures monthly? Just curious, since I know nothing of SC2 progamer salaries (and have always been a bit curious).

edit: nvm, answered.
"[S]o be ready to kiss a few donkeys with glued-on paper horns during your unicorn hunt." -Some stupid 4x4 magazine
KeyHunt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States218 Posts
January 16 2012 07:52 GMT
#31
It's not just Korean's either; trust me lol.
DeepBlu2
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States975 Posts
January 16 2012 07:55 GMT
#32
Yeah, they want way too much money...but I'm a big fan of Golden and hopefully someone picks him up. I wish he would elaborate on why he left, but I guess it doesn't matter.
u gotta sk8
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
January 16 2012 07:55 GMT
#33
This thread just got 10x more interesting than it would've been because of Xeris giving us a hint at what player salaries are
From the void I am born into wave and particle
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
January 16 2012 07:55 GMT
#34
Isn't $1.5K like the minimum wage in US for working 8h a day including saturdays?

I thought solid pros make way more than that.......
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
January 16 2012 07:55 GMT
#35
Its probably monthly. 1.5k isn't THAT big of an investment if its for the year.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
mutton
Profile Joined January 2011
64 Posts
January 16 2012 07:56 GMT
#36
On January 16 2012 16:51 StarMoon wrote:
And Kennigit's reaction, care to elaborate for those of us who are uninitiated?

Seems like poor form to reveal information like that.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 08:05:15
January 16 2012 07:56 GMT
#37
On January 16 2012 16:52 Oiseaux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 16:42 Xeris wrote:
I.E. I know when I was still with Fnatic, we approached Sleep, and he was asking for something in the range of $1.5k .. I know Sangho is currently looking for something along the lines of $3k .


Are those figures monthly? Just curious, since I know nothing of SC2 progamer salaries (and have always been a bit curious).

edit: nvm, answered.


Monthly (not daily, lulz :D)

Those figures are NOT close to being what most pros actually make, mind you.

Salary ranges are like:

GOD1 -- probably an even ungodlier amount! (jk i actually have no clue, but I'm making an assumption that his personal intel sponsorship is huge)

GOD2 -- ungodly amount

TIER 1 players -- around 30-50k per year range (rough estimate)

TIER 2 -- around 15-25k per year range

High skilled but less "famous" pros (aka TIER 3) -- probably 5-10k per year range


Disclaimer: I actually have no idea what the actual player salaries are. These are rough estimates based on other information I know, and could be totally wrong. The only numbers I actually know are the salary requests of people like X AND Y because I've looked into recruiting them.


twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
January 16 2012 07:56 GMT
#38
On January 16 2012 16:42 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 16:36 Diamond wrote:
On January 16 2012 16:35 Seeker wrote:
Oh come on...... why would anyone in their right mind leave SlayerS!!! >:[

None the less....

GOOD LUCK GOLDEN!!!

LighT or Liquid should pick him up :D


Seems like many Koreans have illusions of grandeur on how much they are worth to foreign teams and leave because of that.

I hope this is not the case here and he just wants to be part of the foreign scene, but who knows.


This is absolutely true, most of the Koreans you see here on TL with the "I'm leaving my awesome Korean team to find a foreign team," usually have the following:

a) little/no significant results
b) very unrealistic expectations of how much money foreigners have
c) even more unrealistic salary expectations
d) little / no desire to actually go out and find a team (they just expect offers to come to them)

I.E. I know when I was still with Fnatic, we approached Sleep, and he was asking for something in the range of $1.5k .. I know Sangho is currently looking for something along the lines of $3k .

So crazy -- its why almost all the Koreans who post about looking for foreign team, still haven't found one T_T


So $1.5k-3k is alot for a decent korean? Man, seems like everyone but the most popular (Huk/Idra/Destiny) or the winners (code S koreans) earn shit in SC2. :D
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 16 2012 07:57 GMT
#39
It's not just about salary. It's about participating in foreign events. SlayerS won't send a B roster zerg to foreign tournaments, but a foreign team would. A lot of these guys can't make it into the GSL. Join a foreign team and you get to participate a lot more. It's somewhat of a double edged sword, really. What good is being a pro gamer if you can't compete in tournaments? But then you're probably only bringing down your skill level in the future and looking for mediocre results.
StarMoon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada682 Posts
January 16 2012 07:57 GMT
#40
Is that 3k a month pure spending money, after all expenses paid (room, board, travel, etc)? Or is that all you are expected to live on?

I mean with rent, food, gaming essentials (good net etc), its pretty easy to use up 1.5k/month.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 32 33 34 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 9m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 4743
Bisu 557
Backho 248
Dewaltoss 123
Soma 105
sorry 79
ToSsGirL 59
Sharp 48
soO 27
ZerO 25
[ Show more ]
Bale 16
ajuk12(nOOB) 15
Sacsri 12
Dota 2
XcaliburYe244
NeuroSwarm121
League of Legends
JimRising 475
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss475
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor142
Other Games
summit1g8151
Pyrionflax126
ZerO(Twitch)4
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV54
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 33
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt626
• HappyZerGling108
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
1h 9m
Barracks vs Mini
Wardi Open
2h 9m
Monday Night Weeklies
7h 9m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 1h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 1h
Snow vs EffOrt
Wardi Open
1d 2h
PiGosaur Monday
1d 15h
LiuLi Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
[ Show More ]
Maestros of the Game
5 days
Serral vs herO
Clem vs Reynor
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
BSL Team Wars
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
RSL Revival: Season 2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.