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ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
January 16 2012 07:48 GMT
#21
It seems to me like all of the players who attempt to join foreign teams think they're worth a lot more than they actually are. They will probably be disappointed when the offers are smaller, and their play usually gets worse from lack of a good training environment. Rain used to be a GSL finalist, now he's about as good as an average Korean terran. Probably not even that good.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 16 2012 07:49 GMT
#22
Any confirmation from SlayerS management?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
January 16 2012 07:49 GMT
#23
On January 16 2012 16:48 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 16:45 Diamond wrote:
On January 16 2012 16:42 Xeris wrote:
I.E. I know when I was still with Fnatic, we approached Sleep, and he was asking for something in the range of $1.5k .. I know Sangho is currently looking for something along the lines of $3k .


Wow those are pretty high numbers. 0_o

Anyone that pays $3k for SangHo is out of their minds.


Hence why neither of them have found teams.

YAY FINALLY SOME INSIGHT INTO SALARIES THAT PLAYERS MAKE AND OUR ARE LOOKING FOR THANK YOU
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
KeyHunt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States218 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 07:50:30
January 16 2012 07:50 GMT
#24
On January 16 2012 16:36 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 16:35 Seeker wrote:
Oh come on...... why would anyone in their right mind leave SlayerS!!! >:[

None the less....

GOOD LUCK GOLDEN!!!

LighT or Liquid should pick him up :D


Seems like many Koreans have illusions of grandeur on how much they are worth to foreign teams and leave because of that.

I hope this is not the case here and he just wants to be part of the foreign scene, but who knows.



Quoted for truth.....A complete disconnect from reality a lot of players are experiencing right now.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 16 2012 07:50 GMT
#25
On January 16 2012 16:49 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 16:48 Xeris wrote:
On January 16 2012 16:45 Diamond wrote:
On January 16 2012 16:42 Xeris wrote:
I.E. I know when I was still with Fnatic, we approached Sleep, and he was asking for something in the range of $1.5k .. I know Sangho is currently looking for something along the lines of $3k .


Wow those are pretty high numbers. 0_o

Anyone that pays $3k for SangHo is out of their minds.


Hence why neither of them have found teams.

YAY FINALLY SOME INSIGHT INTO SALARIES THAT PLAYERS MAKE AND OUR ARE LOOKING FOR THANK YOU


Erm, I think your caps button is stuck...
StarMoon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada682 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 07:51:40
January 16 2012 07:51 GMT
#26
On January 16 2012 16:42 Xeris wrote:

I.E. I know when I was still with Fnatic, we approached Sleep, and he was asking for something in the range of $1.5k .. I know Sangho is currently looking for something along the lines of $3k .

So crazy -- its why almost all the Koreans who post about looking for foreign team, still haven't found one T_T


1.5k/3k a month? a day? what?

And Kennigit's reaction, care to elaborate for those of us who are uninitiated?
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
January 16 2012 07:51 GMT
#27
On January 16 2012 16:50 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 16:49 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On January 16 2012 16:48 Xeris wrote:
On January 16 2012 16:45 Diamond wrote:
On January 16 2012 16:42 Xeris wrote:
I.E. I know when I was still with Fnatic, we approached Sleep, and he was asking for something in the range of $1.5k .. I know Sangho is currently looking for something along the lines of $3k .


Wow those are pretty high numbers. 0_o

Anyone that pays $3k for SangHo is out of their minds.


Hence why neither of them have found teams.

YAY FINALLY SOME INSIGHT INTO SALARIES THAT PLAYERS MAKE AND OUR ARE LOOKING FOR THANK YOU


Erm, I think your caps button is stuck...

sry!!
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
January 16 2012 07:51 GMT
#28
On January 16 2012 16:51 StarMoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 16:42 Xeris wrote:

I.E. I know when I was still with Fnatic, we approached Sleep, and he was asking for something in the range of $1.5k .. I know Sangho is currently looking for something along the lines of $3k .

So crazy -- its why almost all the Koreans who post about looking for foreign team, still haven't found one T_T


1.5k/3k a month? a day? what?

And Kenniget's reaction, care to elaborate for those of us who are uninitiated?

month
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
January 16 2012 07:52 GMT
#29
On January 16 2012 16:36 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 16:35 Seeker wrote:
Oh come on...... why would anyone in their right mind leave SlayerS!!! >:[

None the less....

GOOD LUCK GOLDEN!!!

LighT or Liquid should pick him up :D


Seems like many Koreans have illusions of grandeur on how much they are worth to foreign teams and leave because of that.

I hope this is not the case here and he just wants to be part of the foreign scene, but who knows.


I have that feeling too sadly.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Oiseaux
Profile Joined May 2011
United States676 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 07:52:40
January 16 2012 07:52 GMT
#30
On January 16 2012 16:42 Xeris wrote:
I.E. I know when I was still with Fnatic, we approached Sleep, and he was asking for something in the range of $1.5k .. I know Sangho is currently looking for something along the lines of $3k .


Are those figures monthly? Just curious, since I know nothing of SC2 progamer salaries (and have always been a bit curious).

edit: nvm, answered.
"[S]o be ready to kiss a few donkeys with glued-on paper horns during your unicorn hunt." -Some stupid 4x4 magazine
KeyHunt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States218 Posts
January 16 2012 07:52 GMT
#31
It's not just Korean's either; trust me lol.
DeepBlu2
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States975 Posts
January 16 2012 07:55 GMT
#32
Yeah, they want way too much money...but I'm a big fan of Golden and hopefully someone picks him up. I wish he would elaborate on why he left, but I guess it doesn't matter.
u gotta sk8
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
January 16 2012 07:55 GMT
#33
This thread just got 10x more interesting than it would've been because of Xeris giving us a hint at what player salaries are
From the void I am born into wave and particle
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
January 16 2012 07:55 GMT
#34
Isn't $1.5K like the minimum wage in US for working 8h a day including saturdays?

I thought solid pros make way more than that.......
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
January 16 2012 07:55 GMT
#35
Its probably monthly. 1.5k isn't THAT big of an investment if its for the year.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
mutton
Profile Joined January 2011
64 Posts
January 16 2012 07:56 GMT
#36
On January 16 2012 16:51 StarMoon wrote:
And Kennigit's reaction, care to elaborate for those of us who are uninitiated?

Seems like poor form to reveal information like that.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 08:05:15
January 16 2012 07:56 GMT
#37
On January 16 2012 16:52 Oiseaux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 16:42 Xeris wrote:
I.E. I know when I was still with Fnatic, we approached Sleep, and he was asking for something in the range of $1.5k .. I know Sangho is currently looking for something along the lines of $3k .


Are those figures monthly? Just curious, since I know nothing of SC2 progamer salaries (and have always been a bit curious).

edit: nvm, answered.


Monthly (not daily, lulz :D)

Those figures are NOT close to being what most pros actually make, mind you.

Salary ranges are like:

GOD1 -- probably an even ungodlier amount! (jk i actually have no clue, but I'm making an assumption that his personal intel sponsorship is huge)

GOD2 -- ungodly amount

TIER 1 players -- around 30-50k per year range (rough estimate)

TIER 2 -- around 15-25k per year range

High skilled but less "famous" pros (aka TIER 3) -- probably 5-10k per year range


Disclaimer: I actually have no idea what the actual player salaries are. These are rough estimates based on other information I know, and could be totally wrong. The only numbers I actually know are the salary requests of people like X AND Y because I've looked into recruiting them.


twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
January 16 2012 07:56 GMT
#38
On January 16 2012 16:42 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 16:36 Diamond wrote:
On January 16 2012 16:35 Seeker wrote:
Oh come on...... why would anyone in their right mind leave SlayerS!!! >:[

None the less....

GOOD LUCK GOLDEN!!!

LighT or Liquid should pick him up :D


Seems like many Koreans have illusions of grandeur on how much they are worth to foreign teams and leave because of that.

I hope this is not the case here and he just wants to be part of the foreign scene, but who knows.


This is absolutely true, most of the Koreans you see here on TL with the "I'm leaving my awesome Korean team to find a foreign team," usually have the following:

a) little/no significant results
b) very unrealistic expectations of how much money foreigners have
c) even more unrealistic salary expectations
d) little / no desire to actually go out and find a team (they just expect offers to come to them)

I.E. I know when I was still with Fnatic, we approached Sleep, and he was asking for something in the range of $1.5k .. I know Sangho is currently looking for something along the lines of $3k .

So crazy -- its why almost all the Koreans who post about looking for foreign team, still haven't found one T_T


So $1.5k-3k is alot for a decent korean? Man, seems like everyone but the most popular (Huk/Idra/Destiny) or the winners (code S koreans) earn shit in SC2. :D
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 16 2012 07:57 GMT
#39
It's not just about salary. It's about participating in foreign events. SlayerS won't send a B roster zerg to foreign tournaments, but a foreign team would. A lot of these guys can't make it into the GSL. Join a foreign team and you get to participate a lot more. It's somewhat of a double edged sword, really. What good is being a pro gamer if you can't compete in tournaments? But then you're probably only bringing down your skill level in the future and looking for mediocre results.
StarMoon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada682 Posts
January 16 2012 07:57 GMT
#40
Is that 3k a month pure spending money, after all expenses paid (room, board, travel, etc)? Or is that all you are expected to live on?

I mean with rent, food, gaming essentials (good net etc), its pretty easy to use up 1.5k/month.
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