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Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 12:12:09
January 01 2012 12:11 GMT
#81
sounds great
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
January 01 2012 12:38 GMT
#82
make it like facebook, give the players the option to tell you that they don't want to have their replays published if they sign in. Only the ones that care should say no and filtering should be easy by names of the replays then. Could still leave the 45 days rule in as well.
But i don't mind so much, you guys do a great job at organizing so i am sure you will find the best solution.
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 13:02:02
January 01 2012 12:55 GMT
#83
Removal of code A spot is like punishing everyone for players who have already been punished. Code A slot is just a prize and there is incentive to throw matches for that as with any prize pool in any tournament. I am dumbstruck that you did this to your tournament. Do you still expect all of these professionals to be as interested in this tournament without what most of them were probably playing in it for? Even I as a viewer am much less interested in this tournament as it just lost so much prestige and known purpose for what these players are battling for. A GSL spot is a big deal and it adds tons of excitement and integrity to what I'm watching to know that they are struggling for exactly what many of these players spend their professional lives struggling for as it is; all of their time as a pro player in korea toward a GSL slot. I know how serious they are about that. And I know that it isn't anything like how serious they will be about what's left here, now.

It's also a disservice to the players to go from offering GSL entry to simply not. That really means a lot to them. Just think about how happy is the young Korean pro who gets into the GSL for the first time.

This is not a decision of great reasoning by any stretch that I can see or conjure, but of fear, being handled with an axe where a scalpel was already used to perfect effect (CoCa's punishment.)

You have got to put the Code A spot back in dude! WTH!
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ToD
Profile Joined December 2008
France222 Posts
January 01 2012 13:48 GMT
#84
wow, can i play ? ^^
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Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 14:04:44
January 01 2012 14:03 GMT
#85
On January 01 2012 22:48 ToD wrote:
wow, can i play ? ^^


Shhh ToD you're making me look stupid now xD <3
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Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
January 01 2012 14:05 GMT
#86
I actually like the removal of the Code A spot. I'm a big fan of the whole qualifier thing with the area packed full of nerds ready to bust their arses to get into Code A. To me that's ESPORTS right there. Earning a spot from anything else feels like they backdoored their way into GSL.

Looking forward to this. i hope i can catch it. Stupid time zones -_-
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ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
January 01 2012 14:06 GMT
#87
Looking forward to it.

Community maps played by koreans <3.
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Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
January 01 2012 14:23 GMT
#88
On January 01 2012 21:55 Lumi wrote:
Removal of code A spot is like punishing everyone for players who have already been punished. Code A slot is just a prize and there is incentive to throw matches for that as with any prize pool in any tournament. I am dumbstruck that you did this to your tournament. Do you still expect all of these professionals to be as interested in this tournament without what most of them were probably playing in it for? Even I as a viewer am much less interested in this tournament as it just lost so much prestige and known purpose for what these players are battling for. A GSL spot is a big deal and it adds tons of excitement and integrity to what I'm watching to know that they are struggling for exactly what many of these players spend their professional lives struggling for as it is; all of their time as a pro player in korea toward a GSL slot. I know how serious they are about that. And I know that it isn't anything like how serious they will be about what's left here, now.

It's also a disservice to the players to go from offering GSL entry to simply not. That really means a lot to them. Just think about how happy is the young Korean pro who gets into the GSL for the first time.

This is not a decision of great reasoning by any stretch that I can see or conjure, but of fear, being handled with an axe where a scalpel was already used to perfect effect (CoCa's punishment.)

You have got to put the Code A spot back in dude! WTH!


But wouldn't you prefer a spot to dreamhack or mlg over a code A spot? In terms of monetary value and exposure value, going to dreamhack or mlg for a korean is a much better deal i say. Cause right now, to go to foreign tournaments, if you have to be pretty high up in your team ranks to be sent anywhere, and not even all teams do that.

Also, we all know the korean skill level is above the foreigners, think of the better chance they have at dreamhack. So if they end up going farther, they'll get much more exposure and possibly more money.

If something like that could be pulled together by Diamond, the ESV will be the tournament to be at .
The multiplying villanies of man do swarm upon him.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 01 2012 14:28 GMT
#89
On January 01 2012 23:23 Acronysis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 21:55 Lumi wrote:
Removal of code A spot is like punishing everyone for players who have already been punished. Code A slot is just a prize and there is incentive to throw matches for that as with any prize pool in any tournament. I am dumbstruck that you did this to your tournament. Do you still expect all of these professionals to be as interested in this tournament without what most of them were probably playing in it for? Even I as a viewer am much less interested in this tournament as it just lost so much prestige and known purpose for what these players are battling for. A GSL spot is a big deal and it adds tons of excitement and integrity to what I'm watching to know that they are struggling for exactly what many of these players spend their professional lives struggling for as it is; all of their time as a pro player in korea toward a GSL slot. I know how serious they are about that. And I know that it isn't anything like how serious they will be about what's left here, now.

It's also a disservice to the players to go from offering GSL entry to simply not. That really means a lot to them. Just think about how happy is the young Korean pro who gets into the GSL for the first time.

This is not a decision of great reasoning by any stretch that I can see or conjure, but of fear, being handled with an axe where a scalpel was already used to perfect effect (CoCa's punishment.)

You have got to put the Code A spot back in dude! WTH!


But wouldn't you prefer a spot to dreamhack or mlg over a code A spot? In terms of monetary value and exposure value, going to dreamhack or mlg for a korean is a much better deal i say. Cause right now, to go to foreign tournaments, if you have to be pretty high up in your team ranks to be sent anywhere, and not even all teams do that.

Also, we all know the korean skill level is above the foreigners, think of the better chance they have at dreamhack. So if they end up going farther, they'll get much more exposure and possibly more money.

If something like that could be pulled together by Diamond, the ESV will be the tournament to be at .

A lot of the problem isn't Korean players being unable to attend foreign events due to lack of opportunity. It comes down to the cost of sending players to foreign events for the Korean teams.

With more Korean teams catching on to streaming and foreign events as huge ways to get fans and whatnot, I'm hoping (and in some ways expecting) to see teams have one or two players marked as their foreign attendees (or do how FXO does and work on a rotation).
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Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
January 01 2012 15:33 GMT
#90
Sounds awesome, GJ!
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The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
January 01 2012 15:56 GMT
#91
I love these tournaments! Getting to see Koreans who we don't normally see is always awesome. Keep up the great work! :D
Sawofhackness
Profile Joined May 2011
Afghanistan183 Posts
January 01 2012 16:56 GMT
#92

Hope Orb is interested in casting too.

He has to be one of my favorite "serious" casters.
careohx
Profile Joined June 2011
263 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 17:31:19
January 01 2012 17:28 GMT
#93
My biggest problem with the weeklies is simply the lack of code s players participating. While its good to see new faces its really hard to build stories, rivalries.. Also you cant really be emotionally invested in players you do not know. I think thats the biggest hurdle Korean Weekies have to face in order to achieve massive growth.

I would prefer a format where you invite current code s players to face off against new talent.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
January 01 2012 17:38 GMT
#94
Well even without Code A, its always nice to have another Korean tournament there to watch out for emergent talent
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Recoil
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 17:55:01
January 01 2012 17:52 GMT
#95
On January 02 2012 02:28 careohx wrote:
My biggest problem with the weeklies is simply the lack of code s players participating. While its good to see new faces its really hard to build stories, rivalries.. Also you cant really be emotionally invested in players you do not know. I think thats the biggest hurdle Korean Weekies have to face in order to achieve massive growth.

I would prefer a format where you invite current code s players to face off against new talent.


We would love to have all the Code S players play in the weekly if we could. We hope that with the increased prize pool more and more Code S players will find that playing in the Weeklies is worth the time. That what it normally comes down to in a player's mind is the time worth the money they could win.


On January 01 2012 22:48 ToD wrote:
wow, can i play ? ^^


Yes, Yes you can
Recoil
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 17:54:51
January 01 2012 17:53 GMT
#96
Oops
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
January 01 2012 18:48 GMT
#97
Lookin' good. Teaja Time baby!
$♥$
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 20:51:42
January 01 2012 20:16 GMT
#98
On January 01 2012 21:55 Lumi wrote:
Removal of code A spot is like punishing everyone for players who have already been punished. Code A slot is just a prize and there is incentive to throw matches for that as with any prize pool in any tournament. I am dumbstruck that you did this to your tournament. Do you still expect all of these professionals to be as interested in this tournament without what most of them were probably playing in it for? Even I as a viewer am much less interested in this tournament as it just lost so much prestige and known purpose for what these players are battling for. A GSL spot is a big deal and it adds tons of excitement and integrity to what I'm watching to know that they are struggling for exactly what many of these players spend their professional lives struggling for as it is; all of their time as a pro player in korea toward a GSL slot. I know how serious they are about that. And I know that it isn't anything like how serious they will be about what's left here, now.

It's also a disservice to the players to go from offering GSL entry to simply not. That really means a lot to them. Just think about how happy is the young Korean pro who gets into the GSL for the first time.

This is not a decision of great reasoning by any stretch that I can see or conjure, but of fear, being handled with an axe where a scalpel was already used to perfect effect (CoCa's punishment.)

You have got to put the Code A spot back in dude! WTH!


I don't see it being that huge a deal, and now there is MORE incentive for Code A/S players to play. Like it or not the more Code A/S players the better the ratings (as well as a higher overall game quality).

But most importantly for the same reason the GSL needed to cut out "pointless" games even after Naniwa was punished, if you leave a system that is abusable it will be abused. To prevent the abuse you must take out the things that can be abused.

Further more for most players, getting into a foreign event being unknown is impossible, where you can go and try the Code A qualifiers every month.

Edit: Also actually foreign event invites should be more appealing for foreigners also (sans Jinro) since GOM TV gives ever foreigner and their brother Code A the second they touch down in Korea.

On January 01 2012 22:48 ToD wrote:
wow, can i play ? ^^


Absolutely! Just PM me on here for info, or DesRow has my Skype and such, feel free to get it from him.


On January 02 2012 02:28 careohx wrote:
My biggest problem with the weeklies is simply the lack of code s players participating. While its good to see new faces its really hard to build stories, rivalries.. Also you cant really be emotionally invested in players you do not know. I think thats the biggest hurdle Korean Weekies have to face in order to achieve massive growth.

I would prefer a format where you invite current code s players to face off against new talent.


The hope is the much increased prize pool will draw more Code S players in. However I would disagree, you will find many a person that is pretty invested in Taeja's dominance in this tourney for one example.
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Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
January 02 2012 01:17 GMT
#99
Korean Weekly has always been one of my favorite tournament to follow. Keep up the great work guys.
StrinterN
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark531 Posts
January 02 2012 01:39 GMT
#100
It seems like the best way to avoid another byun/coca incedent!
2012 is gonna be awesome! :D
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