EPTKorean Weekly Season 2 Info, $2,000 finals! - Page 5
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Fatze
Germany1342 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
But i don't mind so much, you guys do a great job at organizing so i am sure you will find the best solution. | ||
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Lumi
United States1616 Posts
It's also a disservice to the players to go from offering GSL entry to simply not. That really means a lot to them. Just think about how happy is the young Korean pro who gets into the GSL for the first time. This is not a decision of great reasoning by any stretch that I can see or conjure, but of fear, being handled with an axe where a scalpel was already used to perfect effect (CoCa's punishment.) You have got to put the Code A spot back in dude! WTH! | ||
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ToD
France222 Posts
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Lumi
United States1616 Posts
On January 01 2012 22:48 ToD wrote: wow, can i play ? ^^ Shhh ToD you're making me look stupid now xD <3 | ||
Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
Looking forward to this. i hope i can catch it. Stupid time zones -_- | ||
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ArcticRaven
France1406 Posts
Community maps played by koreans <3. | ||
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Acronysis
872 Posts
On January 01 2012 21:55 Lumi wrote: Removal of code A spot is like punishing everyone for players who have already been punished. Code A slot is just a prize and there is incentive to throw matches for that as with any prize pool in any tournament. I am dumbstruck that you did this to your tournament. Do you still expect all of these professionals to be as interested in this tournament without what most of them were probably playing in it for? Even I as a viewer am much less interested in this tournament as it just lost so much prestige and known purpose for what these players are battling for. A GSL spot is a big deal and it adds tons of excitement and integrity to what I'm watching to know that they are struggling for exactly what many of these players spend their professional lives struggling for as it is; all of their time as a pro player in korea toward a GSL slot. I know how serious they are about that. And I know that it isn't anything like how serious they will be about what's left here, now. It's also a disservice to the players to go from offering GSL entry to simply not. That really means a lot to them. Just think about how happy is the young Korean pro who gets into the GSL for the first time. This is not a decision of great reasoning by any stretch that I can see or conjure, but of fear, being handled with an axe where a scalpel was already used to perfect effect (CoCa's punishment.) You have got to put the Code A spot back in dude! WTH! But wouldn't you prefer a spot to dreamhack or mlg over a code A spot? In terms of monetary value and exposure value, going to dreamhack or mlg for a korean is a much better deal i say. Cause right now, to go to foreign tournaments, if you have to be pretty high up in your team ranks to be sent anywhere, and not even all teams do that. Also, we all know the korean skill level is above the foreigners, think of the better chance they have at dreamhack. So if they end up going farther, they'll get much more exposure and possibly more money. If something like that could be pulled together by Diamond, the ESV will be the tournament to be at  . | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On January 01 2012 23:23 Acronysis wrote: But wouldn't you prefer a spot to dreamhack or mlg over a code A spot? In terms of monetary value and exposure value, going to dreamhack or mlg for a korean is a much better deal i say. Cause right now, to go to foreign tournaments, if you have to be pretty high up in your team ranks to be sent anywhere, and not even all teams do that. Also, we all know the korean skill level is above the foreigners, think of the better chance they have at dreamhack. So if they end up going farther, they'll get much more exposure and possibly more money. If something like that could be pulled together by Diamond, the ESV will be the tournament to be at .A lot of the problem isn't Korean players being unable to attend foreign events due to lack of opportunity. It comes down to the cost of sending players to foreign events for the Korean teams. With more Korean teams catching on to streaming and foreign events as huge ways to get fans and whatnot, I'm hoping (and in some ways expecting) to see teams have one or two players marked as their foreign attendees (or do how FXO does and work on a rotation). | ||
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Nazeron
Canada1046 Posts
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The Final Boss
United States1839 Posts
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Sawofhackness
Afghanistan183 Posts
Hope Orb is interested in casting too. He has to be one of my favorite "serious" casters. | ||
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careohx
263 Posts
I would prefer a format where you invite current code s players to face off against new talent. | ||
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CeriseCherries
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Recoil
United States276 Posts
On January 02 2012 02:28 careohx wrote: My biggest problem with the weeklies is simply the lack of code s players participating. While its good to see new faces its really hard to build stories, rivalries.. Also you cant really be emotionally invested in players you do not know. I think thats the biggest hurdle Korean Weekies have to face in order to achieve massive growth. I would prefer a format where you invite current code s players to face off against new talent. We would love to have all the Code S players play in the weekly if we could. We hope that with the increased prize pool more and more Code S players will find that playing in the Weeklies is worth the time. That what it normally comes down to in a player's mind is the time worth the money they could win. On January 01 2012 22:48 ToD wrote: wow, can i play ? ^^ Yes, Yes you can | ||
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Recoil
United States276 Posts
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Devolved
United States2753 Posts
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On January 01 2012 21:55 Lumi wrote: Removal of code A spot is like punishing everyone for players who have already been punished. Code A slot is just a prize and there is incentive to throw matches for that as with any prize pool in any tournament. I am dumbstruck that you did this to your tournament. Do you still expect all of these professionals to be as interested in this tournament without what most of them were probably playing in it for? Even I as a viewer am much less interested in this tournament as it just lost so much prestige and known purpose for what these players are battling for. A GSL spot is a big deal and it adds tons of excitement and integrity to what I'm watching to know that they are struggling for exactly what many of these players spend their professional lives struggling for as it is; all of their time as a pro player in korea toward a GSL slot. I know how serious they are about that. And I know that it isn't anything like how serious they will be about what's left here, now. It's also a disservice to the players to go from offering GSL entry to simply not. That really means a lot to them. Just think about how happy is the young Korean pro who gets into the GSL for the first time. This is not a decision of great reasoning by any stretch that I can see or conjure, but of fear, being handled with an axe where a scalpel was already used to perfect effect (CoCa's punishment.) You have got to put the Code A spot back in dude! WTH! I don't see it being that huge a deal, and now there is MORE incentive for Code A/S players to play. Like it or not the more Code A/S players the better the ratings (as well as a higher overall game quality). But most importantly for the same reason the GSL needed to cut out "pointless" games even after Naniwa was punished, if you leave a system that is abusable it will be abused. To prevent the abuse you must take out the things that can be abused. Further more for most players, getting into a foreign event being unknown is impossible, where you can go and try the Code A qualifiers every month. Edit: Also actually foreign event invites should be more appealing for foreigners also (sans Jinro) since GOM TV gives ever foreigner and their brother Code A the second they touch down in Korea. On January 01 2012 22:48 ToD wrote: wow, can i play ? ^^ Absolutely! Just PM me on here for info, or DesRow has my Skype and such, feel free to get it from him. On January 02 2012 02:28 careohx wrote: My biggest problem with the weeklies is simply the lack of code s players participating. While its good to see new faces its really hard to build stories, rivalries.. Also you cant really be emotionally invested in players you do not know. I think thats the biggest hurdle Korean Weekies have to face in order to achieve massive growth. I would prefer a format where you invite current code s players to face off against new talent. The hope is the much increased prize pool will draw more Code S players in. However I would disagree, you will find many a person that is pretty invested in Taeja's dominance in this tourney for one example. | ||
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Forgottenfrog
United States1268 Posts
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StrinterN
Denmark531 Posts
2012 is gonna be awesome! :D | ||
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