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Natespank
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada449 Posts
May 31 2012 18:31 GMT
#261
How about a better approach to ladder anxiety? How about they cut out all the dumb shit from the game like cheeses and all ins? There's no such thing as a good starcraft game that lasted less than 20 minutes, and if I'm avoiding ladder it's usually because I'm sick on the bullshit.

We need a better game...

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Masvidal
Profile Joined April 2012
Korea (South)213 Posts
May 31 2012 18:43 GMT
#262
So you're saying, always research adrenal glands?
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Calvin[Deck]
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark88 Posts
May 31 2012 21:12 GMT
#263
You really nailed it, especially the problem with performing too good in a period, can cause you to fear the loosing streak about to come when you get better opponents.

If i win too much, i will switch account, so i can still play relaxed, and then take the loosing streak head on, when i start playing another day.

It is way less frustrating loosing a lot when you do not have the adrenaline from previous games still running in your blood.
Genie1
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada333 Posts
May 31 2012 21:38 GMT
#264
My biggest issue is the smurfing that is going on right now for the ladder. I just played against a bronze protoss top 8 who creamed me at 8 mins with 12 stalkers and 6 zealots. That's not even possible for a bronze player to accomplish at that level so yeah my opponent was a smurf and its the reason I rarely bother to ladder anymore because I'm not facing opponents of the proper league level.
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roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
May 31 2012 21:44 GMT
#265
I wonder if it would be possible to create a SC2 mod where when you enter the game and log in, it hides your ladder rank / league and when you play a game in the loading screen it does not tell you whether or not your opponent is favored or unfavored, and after the game it hides your league/rank and your opponents league/rank from you and the only way you can find that information is by clicking them to find out


I would actually download that mod lol
Snoodles
Profile Joined March 2012
401 Posts
May 31 2012 21:46 GMT
#266
On June 01 2012 06:44 roymarthyup wrote:
I wonder if it would be possible to create a SC2 mod where when you enter the game and log in, it hides your ladder rank / league and when you play a game in the loading screen it does not tell you whether or not your opponent is favored or unfavored, and after the game it hides your league/rank and your opponents league/rank from you and the only way you can find that information is by clicking them to find out


I would actually download that mod lol



That's not a bad idea, but I feel like people would tally up losing streaks in their head and get discouraged anyway.
Snoodles
Profile Joined March 2012
401 Posts
May 31 2012 21:48 GMT
#267
On June 01 2012 03:31 Natespank wrote:
How about a better approach to ladder anxiety? How about they cut out all the dumb shit from the game like cheeses and all ins? There's no such thing as a good starcraft game that lasted less than 20 minutes, and if I'm avoiding ladder it's usually because I'm sick on the bullshit.

We need a better game...


Honestly if you don't think battles should happen before 20 minutes then this probably isn't the game (or genre) for you.
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
May 31 2012 21:53 GMT
#268
On June 01 2012 06:48 Snoodles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 03:31 Natespank wrote:
How about a better approach to ladder anxiety? How about they cut out all the dumb shit from the game like cheeses and all ins? There's no such thing as a good starcraft game that lasted less than 20 minutes, and if I'm avoiding ladder it's usually because I'm sick on the bullshit.

We need a better game...


Honestly if you don't think battles should happen before 20 minutes then this probably isn't the game (or genre) for you.

He just needs BGH no attack 20 mins from BW... no big deal!
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
altAEGIS
Profile Joined March 2012
United States98 Posts
May 31 2012 21:56 GMT
#269
very well done
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aznkukuboi
Profile Joined December 2010
120 Posts
May 31 2012 22:29 GMT
#270
On June 01 2012 06:38 Genie1 wrote:
My biggest issue is the smurfing that is going on right now for the ladder. I just played against a bronze protoss top 8 who creamed me at 8 mins with 12 stalkers and 6 zealots. That's not even possible for a bronze player to accomplish at that level so yeah my opponent was a smurf and its the reason I rarely bother to ladder anymore because I'm not facing opponents of the proper league level.



Did you check your opponents win ratio and see how many wins he has? Also check their last season's league. Most smurfs will have a high win ratio.

However, tbh, a 4 gate can be pulled off by any league. All one does is follow the build, and he'll have all those units up your base regardless of league.
deichkind
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden347 Posts
May 31 2012 22:42 GMT
#271
everytime i get ladder anxiety i just think about the mixed proleague and laugh at myself for thinking that my ladder means something. works every single time.
Genie1
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada333 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 02:27:46
June 01 2012 02:25 GMT
#272
On June 01 2012 07:29 aznkukuboi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 06:38 Genie1 wrote:
My biggest issue is the smurfing that is going on right now for the ladder. I just played against a bronze protoss top 8 who creamed me at 8 mins with 12 stalkers and 6 zealots. That's not even possible for a bronze player to accomplish at that level so yeah my opponent was a smurf and its the reason I rarely bother to ladder anymore because I'm not facing opponents of the proper league level.



Did you check your opponents win ratio and see how many wins he has? Also check their last season's league. Most smurfs will have a high win ratio.

However, tbh, a 4 gate can be pulled off by any league. All one does is follow the build, and he'll have all those units up your base regardless of league.


A bronze won't have the timing down for a 4 gate to arrive 8 mins no freaking way in hell and anyways the guy is trolling bronze level players because hes high gold. He hasn't lost a game in 5 days yeah someone else was playing on his account would not be surprised if it was a pro player who asked for his account to play on.
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Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
June 01 2012 02:29 GMT
#273
On June 01 2012 07:29 aznkukuboi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 06:38 Genie1 wrote:
My biggest issue is the smurfing that is going on right now for the ladder. I just played against a bronze protoss top 8 who creamed me at 8 mins with 12 stalkers and 6 zealots. That's not even possible for a bronze player to accomplish at that level so yeah my opponent was a smurf and its the reason I rarely bother to ladder anymore because I'm not facing opponents of the proper league level.



Did you check your opponents win ratio and see how many wins he has? Also check their last season's league. Most smurfs will have a high win ratio.

However, tbh, a 4 gate can be pulled off by any league. All one does is follow the build, and he'll have all those units up your base regardless of league.


That guy seems like he could be high plat, not bronze.
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Arghmyliver
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1079 Posts
June 01 2012 02:45 GMT
#274
Thought this was Sean Spencer's ladder technique. Disappoint.

Juliet is hawt.
Now witness their attempts to fly from tree to tree. Notice they do not so much fly as plummet.
EerieTraveler
Profile Joined February 2012
67 Posts
June 01 2012 02:56 GMT
#275
Nice write-up. It's a good read.
aye
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
June 01 2012 02:57 GMT
#276
On April 27 2012 22:21 MigzR wrote:
ladder anxiety is silly lol


I cringe when I see these threads man
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Inquisitor1323
Profile Joined March 2012
370 Posts
June 01 2012 03:15 GMT
#277
Lol the biggest ladder anxiety problem for me is when my brother watches me play and calls me a shitty player throughout the game.
Frozenhelfire
Profile Joined May 2010
United States420 Posts
June 01 2012 12:14 GMT
#278
I think the better analysis for ladder anxiety is this:

If you actively want to get better and you pursue your goals and have any shred of motivation you hit the find match button.

If you have "ladder anxiety" then you either:
a) are completely content with your current standing, and you mostly just don't want to go down.
b) don't have any motivation
c) don't enjoy playing 1v1 in the first place, but for some reason find yourself wanting/considering ladder periodically.
d) think you're better than everyone and heaven forbid that be invalidated.
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
June 01 2012 12:21 GMT
#279
Can someone tell me why I have ladder anxiety, although I have no anxiety, if I play LAN (even vs unknown players)?
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Hadley_
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany157 Posts
June 01 2012 12:26 GMT
#280
I don't get this ladder anxiety thing. I know there are times were you tell yourself not to play Ladder, beause XYZ. But at the End it doesn't matter, just play whats the most fun to you and if you think Ladder is too stressfull - don't play.
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