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Kyrillion
Profile Joined August 2011
Russian Federation748 Posts
April 08 2012 13:38 GMT
#221
I don't have any ladder anxiety. But I'll trust you it really exists.
If you seek well, you shall find.
IaMaV
Profile Joined April 2012
30 Posts
April 08 2012 18:18 GMT
#222
Fear of losing ladder rank can be frightening for some people, but if you're losing due to the fact that you're trying out new strategies/ build = improving your game, then its good
mitrah
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia6 Posts
April 09 2012 07:01 GMT
#223
I used to play sc alot, but i always stayed rank 1 bronze, and there was alot of pressure each time i laddered because i never moved up but i knew each time i lost i would be set behind my goal. this was a very interesting thread, makes me more confident to play again. thankyou and gl hf with your psychology
Apologise for playing that race!
Fossa
Profile Joined July 2011
United States67 Posts
April 09 2012 12:51 GMT
#224
If I click the find match button and lose, I'll have no problem playing more games. If I win, I won't want to play more.
Fossa
Profile Joined July 2011
United States67 Posts
April 09 2012 12:54 GMT
#225
On December 22 2011 04:44 Fawkes wrote:
But how do I even get myself to press that Find Match button? I haven't played since Season 1 and I only played like 40 games back then too T.T I want to play...I just fear that button, and pretty much everything you mentioned.

If you had played those last few seasons, you would've gained more than you lost by not playing. Also, if you get a 2nd account, you can make one account a, "I don't care what happens," and another account your "serious account."
Marathi
Profile Joined July 2011
298 Posts
April 09 2012 13:40 GMT
#226
Great thread.

I have ladder anxiety problems, I dont get to play much due to my schedule so I try to assign a day or two per week which I can play, then sometimes I get to those days and put the games off or not play as many as I intended.

I found having a smurf account helped and I just cheesed a lot on it and played random and really didnt care how I did with it, I ended up placing gold and I am silver on my main, which helped me to realise that I should be in gold but my anxiety is holding me back from playing too much in silver, this season I probably managed about 40 games which is pretty low.

I also seem to suffer as much from winning streaks as I do from losing streaks, although the feeling afterwards is better, but I still stop myself from playing because I feel like my luck will run out and I will lose the next game(s)
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TheRealzz
Profile Joined November 2010
150 Posts
April 09 2012 13:42 GMT
#227
I must admit I've competed in fighting before, and that shock of Adrenaline hitting when I first started sc2 was a nice Hello there friend!!! As I was not expecting. When I realised that I could get off somewhat on a RTS game. Awesome, but its dulling great write up cheers.
One-base play is aggression ?
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9405 Posts
April 09 2012 13:44 GMT
#228
On April 07 2012 05:49 Count9 wrote:
I 100% recommend people get a "smurf" account if they're suffering from social pressures not playing the game. (i.e. the everyone I know is masters so I don't want to play cause I'm only plat) It's a little too bad Blizz decided to make a smurf account $60.


I 100% recommend ppl to not do this as it does not fix the underlying problem.
seodoth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands318 Posts
April 09 2012 13:54 GMT
#229
Reading this helped me a lot and gave a me much to think about. Its amazing how accurate you address the problem and the feelings of laddering. Thanks so much
Bommes
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 14:12:17
April 09 2012 14:10 GMT
#230
On December 22 2011 04:18 clik wrote:
Fear of being demoted, general anxiety issues, fear of having to deal with the guy that places higher than you but is clearly a worse player, fear of not knowing why you lost or are losing to someone doing the most popular build they saw x pro gamer do, fear of constantly losing to the flavor of the month build, not accepting that you actually aren't anywhere near decent or good at the game, there are a a lot of reasons I've seen and have myself.

I believe a queue system that is unranked however still considers match making would really help people ease into things. Games like League of Legends do this and I know people that are afraid of ranked play but still play that game in unranked every single day for hours and hours.


Couldnt agree more.

Also I'm so mad that they still don't let you choose matchup and map.
How can Blizzard just ignore that the utility and usefulness of their Bnet and Matchmaking system is comparable to 10-15 YEARS old games which had probably 1/1000 of their budget.

edit:
I just called Blizzard and they said the technology for unranked games is just not there yet.
Time to wait.
gakkgakk
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Norway902 Posts
April 09 2012 14:49 GMT
#231
On April 09 2012 23:10 Bommes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 04:18 clik wrote:
Fear of being demoted, general anxiety issues, fear of having to deal with the guy that places higher than you but is clearly a worse player, fear of not knowing why you lost or are losing to someone doing the most popular build they saw x pro gamer do, fear of constantly losing to the flavor of the month build, not accepting that you actually aren't anywhere near decent or good at the game, there are a a lot of reasons I've seen and have myself.

I believe a queue system that is unranked however still considers match making would really help people ease into things. Games like League of Legends do this and I know people that are afraid of ranked play but still play that game in unranked every single day for hours and hours.


Couldnt agree more.

Also I'm so mad that they still don't let you choose matchup and map.
How can Blizzard just ignore that the utility and usefulness of their Bnet and Matchmaking system is comparable to 10-15 YEARS old games which had probably 1/1000 of their budget.

edit:
I just called Blizzard and they said the technology for unranked games is just not there yet.
Time to wait.

Unranked games would be awesome for alot of people that get stressed out by win/loss stats.

Isn't it possible to join a custom game on a ladder map and get a random opponent already? How about making it so when you join a custom game you will automatically get an opponent similar to your league/mmr? Im sure this will help alot of people.
A timing is a build done by a player you like. An allin is a build done by one you dont. -sOda~
Ripebananaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada129 Posts
April 09 2012 15:02 GMT
#232
On April 09 2012 23:10 Bommes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 04:18 clik wrote:
Fear of being demoted, general anxiety issues, fear of having to deal with the guy that places higher than you but is clearly a worse player, fear of not knowing why you lost or are losing to someone doing the most popular build they saw x pro gamer do, fear of constantly losing to the flavor of the month build, not accepting that you actually aren't anywhere near decent or good at the game, there are a a lot of reasons I've seen and have myself.

I believe a queue system that is unranked however still considers match making would really help people ease into things. Games like League of Legends do this and I know people that are afraid of ranked play but still play that game in unranked every single day for hours and hours.


Couldnt agree more.

Also I'm so mad that they still don't let you choose matchup and map.
How can Blizzard just ignore that the utility and usefulness of their Bnet and Matchmaking system is comparable to 10-15 YEARS old games which had probably 1/1000 of their budget.

edit:
I just called Blizzard and they said the technology for unranked games is just not there yet.
Time to wait.

Why would you expect to able to choose the matchups and maps? That would straight up break the ladder and ranking accuracy.
Bommes
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1226 Posts
April 09 2012 15:47 GMT
#233
On April 10 2012 00:02 Ripebananaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 23:10 Bommes wrote:
On December 22 2011 04:18 clik wrote:
Fear of being demoted, general anxiety issues, fear of having to deal with the guy that places higher than you but is clearly a worse player, fear of not knowing why you lost or are losing to someone doing the most popular build they saw x pro gamer do, fear of constantly losing to the flavor of the month build, not accepting that you actually aren't anywhere near decent or good at the game, there are a a lot of reasons I've seen and have myself.

I believe a queue system that is unranked however still considers match making would really help people ease into things. Games like League of Legends do this and I know people that are afraid of ranked play but still play that game in unranked every single day for hours and hours.


Couldnt agree more.

Also I'm so mad that they still don't let you choose matchup and map.
How can Blizzard just ignore that the utility and usefulness of their Bnet and Matchmaking system is comparable to 10-15 YEARS old games which had probably 1/1000 of their budget.

edit:
I just called Blizzard and they said the technology for unranked games is just not there yet.
Time to wait.

Why would you expect to able to choose the matchups and maps? That would straight up break the ladder and ranking accuracy.


There is no ranking if you play unranked. Doesn't mean it can't use your MMR to get similar skilled opponents.
Whitetrash
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany1 Post
April 09 2012 17:54 GMT
#234
i already feel way better knowing that other people have the same fear :D
cameler
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada99 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 10:18:01
April 10 2012 10:03 GMT
#235
Boy, if you got ladder anxiety, you will need an ambulance on your wedding day because a heart attack is guaranteed :D

Seriously though, I can't ladder because I too have this anxiety... it comes from cocky and immature oppponents that have nothing better to do than ruin other peoples days.

Also that adrenaline thing, I dont need cold hands and feet because of a stupid video game. Moving on.
Everyday I thank God I escaped from the Starcraft universe when I did. Saved so many hours of my life.
Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
April 10 2012 11:10 GMT
#236
The reason you have anxiety is you're afraid of losing, nothing more. The moment you start to use losing as an opportunity to tick off boxes where you can improve is the moment you no longer have ladder anxiety.

Note, that does not mean you don't get irritated, angry or otherwise after a ladder loss. It just means you don't get cold feet going into a game against someone you don't know.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9405 Posts
April 10 2012 11:12 GMT
#237
On April 10 2012 19:03 cameler wrote:
Boy, if you got ladder anxiety, you will need an ambulance on your wedding day because a heart attack is guaranteed :D

Seriously though, I can't ladder because I too have this anxiety... it comes from cocky and immature oppponents that have nothing better to do than ruin other peoples days.

Also that adrenaline thing, I dont need cold hands and feet because of a stupid video game. Moving on.


Stop blaming others for your own mental weakness's.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
April 10 2012 11:13 GMT
#238
On April 09 2012 22:44 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 05:49 Count9 wrote:
I 100% recommend people get a "smurf" account if they're suffering from social pressures not playing the game. (i.e. the everyone I know is masters so I don't want to play cause I'm only plat) It's a little too bad Blizz decided to make a smurf account $60.


I 100% recommend ppl to not do this as it does not fix the underlying problem.

This. I have a smurf account and I don't ladder on that either. The problem is hating to lose, not losing a couple of meaningless points.
Penecks
Profile Joined August 2010
United States600 Posts
April 10 2012 11:13 GMT
#239
On April 10 2012 00:47 Bommes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 00:02 Ripebananaa wrote:

Why would you expect to able to choose the matchups and maps? That would straight up break the ladder and ranking accuracy.


There is no ranking if you play unranked. Doesn't mean it can't use your MMR to get similar skilled opponents.

How would a player ever have a proper MMR if he never plays ranked games?
straight poppin
cameler
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada99 Posts
April 10 2012 11:14 GMT
#240
On April 10 2012 20:12 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 19:03 cameler wrote:
Boy, if you got ladder anxiety, you will need an ambulance on your wedding day because a heart attack is guaranteed :D

Seriously though, I can't ladder because I too have this anxiety... it comes from cocky and immature oppponents that have nothing better to do than ruin other peoples days.

Also that adrenaline thing, I dont need cold hands and feet because of a stupid video game. Moving on.


Stop blaming others for your own mental weakness's.

Everyday I thank God I escaped from the Starcraft universe when I did. Saved so many hours of my life.
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