EPTI generally like Apollo's casting the best, but lately you have been improving whereas some of the more popular casters (day9, tastosis, especially day9, have been stagnant). So props on that. The number issue, i think, should simply be approached a slightly different way. Numbers are cool, comparisons of them aswell, but sometimes it's not good to focus on them OR you have to focus on them to see if everything is fine and making sense. If, per say, a zerg goes fast 8 hatcheries (just an example) and has no tech, whereas he simply keeps 100 lings outside of enemy base just to stop him from moving out (like i said, a theoretical example), it's logical that he will lose a shit ton of resources more and so on.
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Ayoeme
Latvia59 Posts
I generally like Apollo's casting the best, but lately you have been improving whereas some of the more popular casters (day9, tastosis, especially day9, have been stagnant). So props on that. The number issue, i think, should simply be approached a slightly different way. Numbers are cool, comparisons of them aswell, but sometimes it's not good to focus on them OR you have to focus on them to see if everything is fine and making sense. If, per say, a zerg goes fast 8 hatcheries (just an example) and has no tech, whereas he simply keeps 100 lings outside of enemy base just to stop him from moving out (like i said, a theoretical example), it's logical that he will lose a shit ton of resources more and so on. | ||
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SiroKO
France721 Posts
It seems to me that you play(/know) very little about Terran/Protoss, more specifically, you've a 100% Zerg understanding of these 2 races, thus you often times can't really judge impartially what they're doing, how hard what they're trying to pull off is, and thus can't commentate properly nor give credits/blame where it's due. So since you can't really relate to the terran/protoss player, you're often times 100% focus on the Zerg player and commentate every actions of the game through the Zerg prism. That's a deep flaw for a commentator. Only solution would be to play more random. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On June 30 2012 21:01 Khaldor wrote: Your hear Zerg bias, others told me I would be biased towards Protoss and I also heard I would focus on the terran too much. And it might be true in some individual games but in the whole schema of things I don't think you really have a point. And Shine impressed me a lot today, plain and simple. Doesn't mean that jjakji is not a good player and I think we talked about him quite a lot today too. Well that's how I felt in that particular game, and to a lesser extent in HyuN vs sculp. sorry if you don't think I have a point, but I believe that I do, for reasons that the above poster stated. Your cast with Wolf in the sculp vs Symbol game was outstanding though. One thing that I really like about your casting is that it's really obvious that you love the game, Wolf as well. Makes epic games like that even more epic. So many casters seem to just go through the motions, I'm one who really likes enthusiastic casting. | ||
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Khaldor
Germany861 Posts
On June 30 2012 21:27 Ayoeme wrote: From the things i've read the most important thing to focus on would be the number issue. "He has 3000 more resources lost" is fine, but what actually tells things about the game is the changing of that graph. You might want to show me some day where in the game you can see this graph, because I've never seen it before so far  All you get is the current amount of ressources lost and as you might have caught today I try to keep track and also mention the development (example: Symbol vs. Sculp) | ||
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
Really, biggest things to improve upon (and this goes for EVERY caster): Try to be less negative. It's not that you should be "positive" but try to turn something from saying, "Oh, (insert random player) made a huge mistake and is floating 800 gas." Try to turn that into saying, "Oh, (insert random player) is applying really good pressure here and causing him to make a bunch of mistakes." It's not really your fault though, as I see tons of even the best casters make those mistakes. Overall, I feel like you do a good job. You and Wolf do a good job casting together, and I feel like it's much more natural. At first in the GSL, I thought you were a bit uncomfortable/unnatural, but it's gotten more relaxed and less tense. Good luck Khaldor, I enjoy your casting and hope to see you cast more tournaments outside of the GSL soon. I even finally bought a GSL pass because I enjoy it so much ^_^ | ||
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treekiller
United States236 Posts
On June 30 2012 22:02 MtlGuitarist97 wrote: I think Khaldor does a pretty good job, but I find it just enjoyable to listen to most people cast. Really, biggest things to improve upon (and this goes for EVERY caster): Try to be less negative. It's not that you should be "positive" but try to turn something from saying, "Oh, (insert random player) made a huge mistake and is floating 800 gas." Try to turn that into saying, "Oh, (insert random player) is applying really good pressure here and causing him to make a bunch of mistakes." It's not really your fault though, as I see tons of even the best casters make those mistakes. Overall, I feel like you do a good job. You and Wolf do a good job casting together, and I feel like it's much more natural. At first in the GSL, I thought you were a bit uncomfortable/unnatural, but it's gotten more relaxed and less tense. Good luck Khaldor, I enjoy your casting and hope to see you cast more tournaments outside of the GSL soon. I even finally bought a GSL pass because I enjoy it so much ^_^ I they do something stupid, its the asters job to inform the viewer just how stupid it is. Likewise, its the casters job to infrom the viewer how smart a decision is. These go hand in hand. What matters is there is a balance, which Khalador does well. I would like to see more German meanness.  | ||
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
On June 30 2012 22:22 treekiller wrote: I they do something stupid, its the asters job to inform the viewer just how stupid it is. Likewise, its the casters job to infrom the viewer how smart a decision is. These go hand in hand. What matters is there is a balance, which Khalador does well. I would like to see more German meanness. No it's not. I think it's the caster's job to highlight what the player's have done WELL. Sometimes, there are just no exceptions. If someone just mains a bad decisions and makes a build order mistake, they should say it. If another plays well and forces the other person to make a mistake, I'd rather that they highlight how the other person did a good job to make the other person screw up, rather than that the person just screwed up and the other person just has been playing normally. If they make a mistake unpressured, talk about it. If they make a mistake under pressure, talk about how the other person did something right to cause them to make a mistake. At least, that's what I'd prefer. Everyone likes different styles I guess. | ||
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mataxp
Chile538 Posts
I really like both of you though, so I'd say that's my only criticism.. | ||
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wcr.4fun
Belgium686 Posts
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Awesomeness
Germany1361 Posts
On June 30 2012 22:22 treekiller wrote: I they do something stupid, its the asters job to inform the viewer just how stupid it is. Likewise, its the casters job to infrom the viewer how smart a decision is. These go hand in hand. What matters is there is a balance, which Khalador does well. I would like to see more German meanness. I don't mind casters pointing out mistakes at all, but Khaldor doesn't really understand the game very well and points out "mistakes" that really aren't mistakes at all. You should be very careful judging a pro, when you don't know what you're talking about. I don't mind Khaldor's play-by-play casting too much, even though I'm not a big fan of it, but he should leave the analytical part to guys like Wolf... | ||
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MxGEndeR
United States69 Posts
Khaldor annoys me to no end when he goes on a seemingly unstoppable tirade whenever something 'exciting' happens in a game. His voice just grows higher and higher in pitch as he goes and just doesn't shut up when things are going on. Instead of saying, maybe, "Here come the Broodlords, he's going to want to blink under them and take them out, let's see what happens," he instead says something like "Oh my God the Broodlords are coming down the map and he is goingtowanttoblinkunderthemtogetthe snipe off and takethemout as quicklyashecan to win the battleorelsetheBroodlordswill crush his Protossopponents base sofastandthe game willjustbeover," and not give anyone else a chance to talk. Personal preference and opinion, though. | ||
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soiii
Germany266 Posts
That being said Wolf and Khaldor are the best Code A caster team since Tastetosis in my opinion. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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Blade Fox
United States215 Posts
[B] That being said Wolf and Khaldor are the best Code A caster team since Tastetosis in my opinion. Thats what matters simply said. | ||
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Schmoooopy
United States448 Posts
On July 01 2012 00:09 soiii wrote: I have to admit that Khaldor is not on the same level of game understanding like e.g. Apollo or Artosis. He has however an outstanding play-by-play that I enjoy very much to listen to. And you can see that he is trying to improve on his weak parts, so please give the man some time to do that. That being said Wolf and Khaldor are the best Code A caster team since Tastetosis in my opinion. Agreed. He might not have the same game knowledge but his play-by-play is great. I listened today for one of the first times in awhile, and I was easily impressed. I don't typically mind race bias in casting (unless it's Mr. Bitter, who can sometimes be really noticeable about it) and I didn't even notice it today. Then again, there are some minor things to improve like maybe being a bit more positive or having a little more game understanding, but other than that I think you're doing a great job. | ||
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speknek
758 Posts
On June 30 2012 21:33 SiroKO wrote: Your Zerg tribalism is deeply ingrained and affects all area of your commentating. It seems to me that you play(/know) very little about Terran/Protoss, more specifically, you've a 100% Zerg understanding of these 2 races, thus you often times can't really judge impartially what they're doing, how hard what they're trying to pull off is, and thus can't commentate properly nor give credits/blame where it's due. So since you can't really relate to the terran/protoss player, you're often times 100% focus on the Zerg player and commentate every actions of the game through the Zerg prism. That's a deep flaw for a commentator. Only solution would be to play more random. This is how I feel as well. A simple example, every fungal is "incredible" and "beautiful" but no props goes to insane splits and other terran things that are much harder to execute than fungalling. | ||
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richter
United States39 Posts
Khaldor, you've grown into one of my favorites. Your game knowledge is good, you're great with the play-by-play, and you work very well with whoever is sitting next to you. In particular, I thought your casting at Dreamhack was awesome, and I think you must've leveled up there, because all your casts with Gom since you came back have been really good too. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
We also have the occasion to listen to endless Zerg's gameplay theory rants, while other things are happening on the screen. The outcome of a game is always due to the Zerg's beautiful play or bad mistake, while according no credit to the other player. I thought it had become better in the past, but it's really becoming noticeable again these days. Just watch today's GSTL games (TSL vs NSH) to get what I'm saying. | ||
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Khaldor
Germany861 Posts
On July 01 2012 00:23 speknek wrote: This is how I feel as well. A simple example, every fungal is "incredible" and "beautiful" but no props goes to insane splits and other terran things that are much harder to execute than fungalling. That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Do you even listen to my casts? Or do you just hate because you feel like it? Comments like this make feedback threads to fucking annoying because one has to wade all this fabrication to find some honest feedback that one can really improve on. Everyone's a critic nowadays. And if you don't know what you are talking about just make random shit up. Haters gonna hate, really tiresome | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10348 Posts
On July 01 2012 12:20 Khaldor wrote: That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Do you even listen to my casts? Or do you just hate because you feel like it? Comments like this make feedback threads to fucking annoying because one has to wade all this fabrication to find some honest feedback that one can really improve on. ... But feedback is totally welcome, folks!!  | ||
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