• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:14
CEST 01:14
KST 08:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8
Community News
SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup4StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)66Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2315
StarCraft 2
General
Back to SC2 after 14 years - Protoss CTRL groups? How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? October World Ranking: herO stays #1, ByuN returns SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Grand Finals Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) SC2 INu's Battles#21 [ 3-Days tournament ]
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses
Brood War
General
Sagi.gg Launcher Released RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site Bot on ladder BW General Discussion BSL Season 23
Tourneys
2v2v2v2 Tournament [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 3
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8872 users

GOMTV Announcement regarding NaNiWa - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
2400 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 119 120 121 Next
S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
December 14 2011 21:44 GMT
#21
On December 15 2011 06:41 Hydrox911 wrote:
Im sorry, but I do like the stance gomtv has taken to this and am very disappointed. The thing you have to understand is that you have taken away Naniwa's code s spot. He was going to be in code s --> incidenent happens ----> No seed. For me at least, its gomtv who looks the worst out this occasion. You have to clearer what the rules are and , as has been discussed in other threads, not have these vague rules which gomtv seems to have used against naniwa. Be clear with your rules. Very disappointed and In my opinion, there is a large part of blame for having pointless games in the first place. You seem to purely have reacted according to Korean netizen reactions and not having clear rules, just making them up as you feel fitting.

Sorry Gom, but this is my opinion and don't feel like supporting gomtv right now. Thanks


Did you not read the fucking post?

They specifically said he never had a guarenteed Code S spot.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
December 14 2011 21:44 GMT
#22
Thank you very much for the statement and all the details. Hopefully this clears up some of the questions about what happened with naniwa, and stops some of the hate that his fans have now developed towards GOM. I think GOM did the right choice with this and took a stand for what they believe in, and I think I speak for most of the fans when I say that the silent majority supports goms decision on this, and it is only the vocal minority that is up in arms and threatening to not watch GSL anymore.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
December 14 2011 21:44 GMT
#23
Seeds to outstanding achievements and they invite sen?? players have way more achievements than sen..
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
davidohx
Profile Joined July 2010
United States114 Posts
December 14 2011 21:44 GMT
#24
sad story bro... lets not let it happen again right?
Gl to both sides
"A dream is like a virus" -Leonardo Dicaprio (Inception)
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
December 14 2011 21:45 GMT
#25
Well-timed statement, especially since QG/Naniwa released one too. With these "official" statements out, I hope people can just take it as the wrap-up to the forgettable incident (for all parties, really) and move on with the future.

Thanks for the statement.
[TLMS] REBOOT
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
December 14 2011 21:45 GMT
#26
Good statement, the only thing that is confusing is that MLG had a press release where they said Naniwa earned Code S from Providence, GOM is saying this is not the case now. They don't both appear to be on the same page.
galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
December 14 2011 21:45 GMT
#27
I agree completely, and with what incontrol said on SotG. Naniwa made a mistake, and now he knows it. He'll have to show us he's good enough to make it through Code A.
Currently editing items in the DotA 2 wiki. PM for questions/suggestions.
Thelymus
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands131 Posts
December 14 2011 21:45 GMT
#28
Finally a direct message instead of translations. I hope Naniwa will show a better game next time
No more zero days
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
December 14 2011 21:45 GMT
#29
I love GOM!!!
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
December 14 2011 21:45 GMT
#30
Fully endorse and respect this. The right call was made. You'll have my dollars and my support this next season, as you always do.

Nani will learn (or he won't) -- it's his choice. Thank you for taking a stand.

<3 GOM
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
December 14 2011 21:46 GMT
#31
Can anyone actually do anything but laugh? After reading Quantic and Naniwa's apology and now GOMTV's statement, how quickly the drama train actually left the station. I can't stop laughing.
really?
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
December 14 2011 21:46 GMT
#32
So basically GOM was considering giving seeds to foreign players because they felt like it, and they no longer felt like giving one to Naniwa? That's basically uncontestable, it's their decision.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10960 Posts
December 14 2011 21:47 GMT
#33
On December 15 2011 06:43 Gin-san wrote:
That's actually a pretty lame response, just like i expected it. They think they're 100% correct and only blame NaNiwa. Hopefully Blizzard won't give the next SC2 contract to you but to KeSPA.



That is probably because factually they are 100% correct.


Having a "pointless" game in the tournament is not "good" but is not part of the issue. Naniwas unprofessional behaviour is.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
December 14 2011 21:47 GMT
#34
On December 15 2011 06:44 raf3776 wrote:
Seeds to outstanding achievements and they invite sen?? players have way more achievements than sen..


Besides Puma and Hero who are koreans and Stephano who has stated he has no intention of participating in the gsl, which foreigner would you put ahead of Sen? I'd only say Huk really.
a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
December 14 2011 21:47 GMT
#35
Thanks for the clarification, I'm glad Naniwa can still play in GSL, I'm sure he'll qualify :D!
VOD finder guy for sc2ratings.com/ ! aka: ogndrahcir, a9azn2 | Go ZerO, Stork, Sea, and KawaiiRice :D | nesc2league.com/forum/index.php | youtube.com/watch?v=oaGtjWL5mZo
Mayd
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland251 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 21:48:19
December 14 2011 21:47 GMT
#36
I think MLG thought the seed was for code s but in reality it was for the Blizzard Cup
유리 | 티파니 | 리지
AdreN-
Profile Joined November 2010
United States503 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 21:48:48
December 14 2011 21:47 GMT
#37
The fact that his Code S spot was not "guaranteed" from his 2nd place at MLG Providence (which contradicts several articles written by MLG) makes this much less of an issue for me.

However, I do have a slight problem with this thinking:
"What we would like to ask from all of the GSL fans is to not simply see this incident as just a simple meaningless single game between NaNiWa and NesTea. The act of purposefully losing a match, whatever the underlying reasons may be, does always also have a psychological effect on the other players. By tolerating such behavior, purposefully losing might be deemed as a legitimate action and we might see more of such matches in the future, which is something that surely neither the fans nor the players would appreciate."

I think the simple solution to this would be having a system that doesn't have so-called "meaningless" matches. In my opinion, if the players know this, there is no way they will try 100% and reveal their strategies. Should Naniwa have played the game out, even if it was a 4-gate, nexus-first, or 2-gate proxy? Absolutely. However, I do think that the GSL should be sure to use a format where each game has a "purpose." They have already done this correctly during the up-and-downs last season, where "meaningless" games weren't played.
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
December 14 2011 21:48 GMT
#38
On December 15 2011 06:33 GOMTV wrote:
It seems like a lot of people have been under the impression that NaNiWa has received a Code S seed for taking 2nd place at MLG Providence. The truth however is that NaNiWa has received the right to compete in the Blizzard Cup for his 2nd place achievement at MLG Providence.


MLG had articles claiming that naniwa gained a code S spots

funny how MLG and GSL have a exchange program with each other but yet they both stating something different regarding the providence seed.
you live and you learn
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
December 14 2011 21:48 GMT
#39
I still want to know why the hell even mlg were saying naniwa had a code S spot and gom didnt say anything and after this suddenly there was no code S spot, looks like just making up rules to get back at him imo.
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3628 Posts
December 14 2011 21:48 GMT
#40
Well done GOMTV.
It is a pity, though, that you replaced one immature kid (Naniwa) by another (IdrA).
Naniwa should learn and take positive energy from this, I really hope to see him compete in future GSLs.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 119 120 121 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 10h 47m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft358
Nina 153
ViBE117
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 14396
firebathero 113
Hyuk 59
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm170
febbydoto88
League of Legends
Doublelift4041
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby5046
Other Games
summit1g8978
FrodaN2240
mouzStarbuck426
JimRising 409
KnowMe233
ArmadaUGS105
Mew2King52
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1182
BasetradeTV208
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream130
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 98
• musti20045 26
• Letter146
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Shiphtur213
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10h 47m
INu's Battles
12h 47m
herO vs Classic
Percival vs Rogue
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
15h 47m
MilkiCow vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
BSL Open Qualifier
19h 47m
BSL Open Qualifier
19h 47m
Replay Cast
23h 47m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 10h
Rush vs Light
WardiTV Weekly
1d 11h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 16h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs Soulkey
INu's Battles
2 days
SHIN vs Cure
ByuN vs Zoun
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
INu's Battles
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-02
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Copium Cup
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.