GOMTV Announcement regarding NaNiWa - Page 119

On December 20 2011 02:05 Sharkyloft wrote:

I think the people from GomTv are not as honest as they plead. My thoughts on this are that gom has a player that they prefer over naniwa to be in code S, and this is just part of their scheme to put him in the GSL. GomTV wants more fans and better games, the question is what are they willing to do to get them. I ask you now,

Do you think that GomTV is capable of bending the rules they themselves made in order to pick the player they deem better to be in code S?

I think this is very possible, and it is exactly what happened.

On December 20 2011 01:57 mind_control wrote:



okay, let me explain this again. I'm not gom's fan. I'm not naniwa's fan. but just things make it clear was I see it.

I don't know about game zone so much, so actually I thought gom's decision was so harsh they put their private emotion

to bring naniwas BM to revote his Code-S the next tournament.

But let's see. as nani won 4 other matches as series in Orland, that makes he has big possiblity to get Code-S spot

here in Korea next time. But noone, and never it was officially came out.

http://cafe.naver.com/sc2woz.cafe?iframe_url=/ArticleRead.nhn?articleid=1048&

http://cafe.naver.com/star2mania.cafe?iframe_url=/ArticleRead.nhn?articleid=260841&

http://cafe.naver.com/star2mania.cafe?iframe_url=/ArticleRead.nhn?articleid=260947&

http://vaders.blog.me/80148182005

http://blog.naver.com/zxcs1820?Redirect=Log&logNo=40146976254

http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen&mbsIdx=425959

http://cafe.naver.com/kaiknight.cafe?iframe_url=/ArticleRead.nhn?articleid=318190&

these are only couple of blogs, when he vs netea had the match on 13th. Dec on GSL. lots of sc users wrote on their

community sites. It mostly "trash naniwa, crazy. insane..bla bla like this.

And among this link, a reporter described very genuin and as optimistic view, why naniwa should get blame more than gom very delicated reason putting the reasons.

He must have tons of fans still, since his sc career and his dallas winning, but as he shown several bm until now,

and some people say he's entertainer or social awarkerd or something. which he shows here, and later talking with his

team and get advice. 'Okay, I didn't meen it, bla bla." it just everything like covered that situation, after he done everything

he wanted that way all by his wishes.

Ofc we pay, and he has lots of watchers, But no matter what how he spent days here in korea, that's not acceptable.

He just seems like, all take advantages all situation or benefits to him. Even though he seems very innocent or only

focus on his job though. I have read among very recent news here, "he spoke with his collegues @ GSL, talk badly about

korean reporters, even if they are very closer by. I thought about this, if can be execused, someone is so young, and

not educated, and if someone has lots of stories when he was young? -Everybody has stories, but noone can say "Sorry,

I didn't know what, I'll never again like this all every situatuin - this is my opinion. This is not only in Korea. This is why

Korea should not blamed on this case. Every culture/country has own their right/benefit, which we should follow/and fit.

But this redeemed really something ignoring us. I doubt now his career also, such he changed so many teams, and seems

everything makes to fit, and excuse it later. I'm also not blame him, but at least every person has minimum based manner.

am I right ?

I also read all twitters that nestea/ and gom people's related manager which is the happend around 13th. Dec. if I translate

all those data, You'll be really suprised. Because those writing really decribed very well about Naniwa by own words.

Even very famous starcraft progamers as well. Maybe they just not reveal. Do you want to me to translate it?

Well, no yet, like I seeing all trash this(I'm not saying korean netizen all fake/wrong - like you guys told me, do I believe

all those netizen threads) but I have also time, so I'm not going with this). The action which maybe you don't know behind

the stage, & which doesn't show up from the stream, maybe U know, but I mean, other people saying(like manager should

be the true)-it's not just like korean's conservative mood. I guess. We're not overacting.

If someone's saying, there must be the reasons, like I uploaded some blogs. which sc users wrote when the matches

happend, and what they feel seeing this.

On December 19 2011 22:39 mind_control wrote:
I'm going with Gom's announcement. he deserved to revoked his code S spot. he's just trash.

On December 19 2011 22:40 mind_control wrote:
If U don't know him, then keep support. but if U know him only inch by inch only a bit closer? then U will know why I'm saying this, and why Gom tv made this decision against to him. Only deserved!

so actually I thought gom's decision was so harsh they put their private emotion
to bring naniwas BM to revote his Code-S the next tournament.

On December 20 2011 01:54 chatuka wrote:


Tri-lateral of course.

All three parties agree to the terms and conditions of the MLG and LXP..

Players agree to the MLG rules and LXP
MLG agrees to Players conditions and GOMTV's rights
GOMTV agrees to be true to its LXP


Three parties.. very simple

On December 20 2011 01:54 chatuka wrote:


Tri-lateral of course.

All three parties agree to the terms and conditions of the MLG and LXP..

Players agree to the MLG rules and LXP
MLG agrees to Players conditions and GOMTV's rights
GOMTV agrees to be true to its LXP


Three parties.. very simple

On December 20 2011 02:05 Sharkyloft wrote:

I think the people from GomTv are not as honest as they plead. My thoughts on this are that gom has a player that they prefer over naniwa to be in code S, and this is just part of their scheme to put him in the GSL. GomTV wants more fans and better games, the question is what are they willing to do to get them. I ask you now,

Do you think that GomTV is capable of bending the rules they themselves made in order to pick the player they deem better to be in code S?

I think this is very possible, and it is exactly what happened.

On December 20 2011 02:13 The Void wrote:

absolutely and the funny thing is that they invited idra (he don't replaces naniwa, anyway), who is the most unrespectful person in E-Sports of all time xD (which for i like him a bit, as long as he doesn't insult random fat guys, and is able to shake hands after a match - that was just awkward) (beside of that i don't see how he will compete in code s)
and Sen... zzZZzzzZ.

Naniwa was more skilled and more entertaining - see proberushing nestea in a game that doesn't matter ^^ who else would do this? Idra would 6pool and gg out... cool.

On December 20 2011 03:27 Doodsmack wrote:
Lol @ the people arguing over the law and contract(s) behind the LXP. I hope you realize how stupid you look.

Pro Circuit Players Competing in the GSL
At MLG Columbus, the Top 3 non-Korean finishers will each be placed into GSL Code A.
At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows:
Code S status will be awarded to the highest placing player, regardless of country of origin, who doesn't already have Code S status.
Code A status will be awarded to the next three highest placing non-Korean players.
If Code S status is awarded to a Korean player, or not awarded at all, Code A status also will be awarded to the 4th highest placing non-Korean player.
All travel and accommodation expenses for these players will be provided by the GSL.

Why did you probe rush in the final game? Let us know your reasons.
[...] I know that unless I have something to play for I can't perform my best. I just felt like it wouldn't satisfy the fans at all with playing half hearted.

On December 19 2011 05:06 Fjodorov wrote:


Thats what he is saying. GOM didnt break a rule, neither did Naniwa. Naniwa is being flamed and punished because of his unprofessional actions which pissed off alot of people. So while GOM didnt break any rules either, they however did piss off a lot of people aswell by acting unprofessional regarding their business with MLG, the community and the players attending MLG. GOM has evidently pissed of a lot off people, wouldnt you agree?

On December 20 2011 04:08 iky43210 wrote:

Thing is Idra BM in other tourneys and on ladder, he pays his respects when playing in GSL

On December 20 2011 04:10 FairForever wrote:


It's true though, the biggest party that got screwed here was MLG since they thought and promoted that they were giving out a Code S Spot. The Code S Spot gives MLG a lot more legitimacy and if it's actually permissible for GOM to revoke the spots for somewhat vague reasons it will hurt MLG significantly.

On December 20 2011 05:56 Sabin010 wrote:
IdrA 6 pools Jinro and nothing bad happend to IdrA. God forbid Naniwa does a probe rush vs July. What if July did a 12 drone rush and won? What if he lost? I think Gom made a poor decision, lied to the MLG, lied to everybody who competed in the MLG, and I for one am not going to be renewing my season pass.

On December 20 2011 05:56 Sabin010 wrote:
IdrA 6 pools Jinro and nothing bad happend to IdrA. God forbid Naniwa does a probe rush vs July. What if July did a 12 drone rush and won? What if he lost? I think Gom made a poor decision, lied to the MLG, lied to everybody who competed in the MLG, and I for one am not going to be renewing my season pass.

On December 20 2011 05:44 The Void wrote:

lol

kcool.... that's even more disgusting.

On December 20 2011 06:24 iky43210 wrote:


what is disgusting about it? its called having some respects. When in Rome, do as the romans do