EPTNaniwa Interview - Blizzard Cup Group B - Page 38
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Xeteh
United States589 Posts
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Waterflow
Sweden1550 Posts
On December 14 2011 05:01 Keone wrote: John McEnroe doesn't come to a match, spit on the court opposite his opponent, and leave. He rages but has the professionalism to finish his matches. Horrible argument. The thing is tho...... i don't think McEnroe played any matches that didn't matter in a tournament. | ||
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PunkyBrewster
22 Posts
On December 14 2011 04:56 Rhine wrote: idra not playing his MLG games isn't really the same. Those games were not streamed or casted or anything really. In addition, this is a Korean tournament and they care a lot about respect for the game, the players and the fans. Just like when 90% of the Koreans pulled out of NASL.. What a joke! They're a hypocritical society, they can screw over the foreign scene, but GOD FORBID someone is upset after a very disappointing performance. Korean society is about as backwards as they come. Naniwa is still in Nestea's head, good play by him. When the time actually comes and something is on the line, he'll know that at his best he can still win. Koreans take the "sport" seriously? But they'll drop out of a foreign event that BENT OVER BACKWARDS for them? They're full of shit. They also forget who saved their asses from the North in the 50's.. But they'll BITCH about United States Occupation, we spilled blood for a bunch of ungrateful yellow bellies. User was banned for this post. | ||
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dnld12
United States324 Posts
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Angry.Zerg
Mexico305 Posts
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itkovian
United States1763 Posts
On December 14 2011 04:46 HalloniKanada wrote: IdrA hasn't been getting a lot of hate lately, did they change focus? Seriously though, Naniwa (and IdrA) forever! Ya, honestly, all this unnecessary hate Naniwa is receiving now just makes me want to support him more in the future. | ||
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CEO
Sweden16 Posts
On December 14 2011 04:56 Rhine wrote: Koreans take the "sport" seriously? But they'll drop out of a foreign event that BENT OVER BACKWARDS for them? They're full of shit. They also forget who saved their asses from the North in the 50's.. But they'll BITCH about United States Occupation, we spilled blood for a bunch of ungrateful yellow bellies. LOL.They dropped out of NASL because they hate the US army? Yeah that makes a lot of sense. | ||
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keioh
France1099 Posts
This probe rush was also not very respectful of his opponent, without even considering his fans. Finally and I may seem harsh, but Naniwa should really keep for himself comments like "Koreans need to stop making such a big deal out of everything". That is just a stupid sentence. You don't come and talk shit on another culture, even if you don't like/understand it. And I'd add : even more 1) in a game like sc2 2) where you are invited by another country, 3) payed by another country to play in their tournament. End of rant. I may have misinterpreted Naniwa's words. That incident is really not the end of the world, but it is non negligible, and I really hope Nani will understand the real weight his behaviour had this time. | ||
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darkest44
United States1009 Posts
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Prplppleatr
United States1518 Posts
On December 14 2011 05:18 darkest44 wrote: Can anyone tell me what, if any, actions or punishment GOM took in response? I read somewhere that they had given their response but have not found anywhere what it actually was. Anyone? They decided they will never invite Naniwa to an invitational tournament. | ||
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modesttoss
United States221 Posts
He's human. He has emotions. Others would have done the same thing given the situation. Cut him some slack. :/ | ||
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toofaraway
United States15 Posts
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tlin
25 Posts
On December 14 2011 05:11 azka wrote: This should have consequences, or this is going to be a precedent for worker rushing/droping games in major tournaments in a very cynic way. People have been dropping irrelevant games for a long time. A half-assed all-in several times in a row is just less blatant than a probe rush is all. Why do you think IdrA, Tyler, HuK, Morrow etc are saying it's no big deal? It's all just about appearances. In actuality it has about as much to do with Korean "honor" as the average SC2 witch hunt has to do with real wrongs being committed. Koreans themselves throw showmatches all the time (see HuK vs NesTea for an example) and no one gives them shit as long as they say they were trying to "show a fun game" irregardless if they're actually mothership rushing or going with a 6pool all-in. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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m0ck
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hefty
Denmark555 Posts
On December 14 2011 05:01 Keone wrote: John McEnroe doesn't come to a match, spit on the court opposite his opponent, and leave. He rages but has the professionalism to finish his matches. Horrible argument. I find your arguments horrible. Where does this get us? Nowhere - just make up your own mind about naniwa and move on. People don't give a 100% all time, noone ever did. Giving a 100% is something coaches talk about when they try to motivate their players. If professionals gave it a 100 % each time there would be no "home stadium effect" or whatever that's called. Also, you believe in santa. | ||
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CEO
Sweden16 Posts
On December 14 2011 05:22 Prplppleatr wrote: They decided they will never invite Naniwa to an invitational tournament. Even though he didn't break any rules? That seems silly. | ||
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Swede
New Zealand853 Posts
On December 14 2011 04:44 CEO wrote: Games from which no player gains anything aren't part of the actual tournament. The Nestea-Naniwa game was only part of the event. So Naniwa is right, it wouldn't have been a particularly exciting game. People should be annoyed at the organizers instead. They're the ones who decided not to have a loser's bracket. I don't think that it would have necessarily been a bad game. If any of Boxer, Nada or July were in that situation they still would have tried to play their best. That's how they got where they are. Naniwa's reasoning that 'unless I have something to play for I can't play my best' is just an excuse. The only thing that's stopping him from playing his best is his choice not to. To pretend that it's some external factor is just delusion. Also, if you need a game to occur within a tournament setting for it to be exciting then you have a shallow appreciation of the game. Some of the most exciting matches I've seen have just been replays from the ladder or custom matches. | ||
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Asheshino
Colombia37 Posts
First, you people are horrible at making analogies. This can`t be compared to your wood league of football where you didnt quit because you are soo good and "pro". People saying that is the same that a professional team who doesnt play a match because they dont have the change to win. Naniwa played the match, he was there but he didnt tried hard. We see this shit all the time in football (i mean the one that you kick a ball with your foot) we see teams using theirs B-Teamers for matches that they does not care. We have seen the Barcelona not using Messi for Copa del Rey because they are keeping him for the Champions League, in the end they are saying "i could care less for Copa del Rey, Champions League is more importan"..they are not trying hard enough in Copa del Rey. People are ok with that, but in the other hand they are bitching about what Naniwa did. Bunch of hypocrites. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15677 Posts
On December 14 2011 05:28 m0ck wrote: There certainly were less of a shitty storm when hero threw his game against DRG yesterday. Is pretending like you're making an effort really that important? Apparently. Tyler already said that this is a really common thing to do. What don't people get about this? Its common. Many people do it. Naniwa just didn't put on a fake show and chose not to 4gate. | ||
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