It is the same in Soccer World Championships. After a team is on 6-0 and secured first position in its group, you can watch a horrible B-Team 90 minutes long.
I like Naniwa's way more.
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Triarier
Austria155 Posts
It is the same in Soccer World Championships. After a team is on 6-0 and secured first position in its group, you can watch a horrible B-Team 90 minutes long. I like Naniwa's way more. | ||
ellirc
Sweden3286 Posts
On December 14 2011 04:27 YoMeR wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2011 04:21 ellirc wrote: On December 14 2011 04:20 YoMeR wrote: Moral of the story...Naniwa is a whiney bitch and needs to suck it up and be a real pro and not some little kid who thinks the world revolves around him. I haven't seen him whining. Did you even watch the matches or read the interview? On December 14 2011 04:20 mordk wrote: On December 14 2011 04:19 Kyle32 wrote: Quite the overreaction. I'd agree that Naniwa has had some pretty poor manners/behavior in the past but this? He just lost a big tournament and didn't want to playout a game where less was on the line than a ladder game. That's perfectly understandable in my eyes. Now would it be great to see Naniwa and Nestea playout a long intense game backed by rigorous training and a heartfelt desire to win? Absolutely, but that was never going to happen under those circumstances. He gave his best when the competition mattered and I think that's all he really owed the fans. Play to win, not for show. This isn't professional wrestling. The game is fun to watch because the players have something to play for and when that drive isn't there you just don't get good games as Naniwa stated. So why not just go to GOM and NesTea and tell them you want to forfeit? Why pull off this stunt? In SC2 terms: Naniwa has some really poor decision making. He did but they didn't let him forfeit. How is anything he did today considered whining? I really don't see it. Just because he did a "good" interview doesn't mean he isn't a bitch. Actions speak much louder than words... | ||
Clazziquai10
Singapore1949 Posts
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jyLee
United States350 Posts
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Kieofire
United States1809 Posts
On December 14 2011 04:28 Triarier wrote: Game was pointless. Better throwing it away with something funny like a proberush than to 4-Gate. It is the same in Soccer World Championships. After a team is on 6-0 and secured first position in its group, you can watch a horrible B-Team 90 minutes long. I like Naniwa's way more. So this game was "pointless," but CoCa plays in another tournament throws a game to Byun and gets his Code S spot taken away. That is unfair to CoCa if Naniwa has nothing happen to him because he says it was "pointless" while CoCa was "wanting one more game for practice." | ||
BrauL
Canada197 Posts
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pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
On December 14 2011 04:34 Kieofire wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2011 04:28 Triarier wrote: Game was pointless. Better throwing it away with something funny like a proberush than to 4-Gate. It is the same in Soccer World Championships. After a team is on 6-0 and secured first position in its group, you can watch a horrible B-Team 90 minutes long. I like Naniwa's way more. So this game was "pointless," but CoCa plays in another tournament throws a game to Byun and gets his Code S spot taken away in something that had nothing to do with GOM. That is unfair to CoCa if Naniwa has nothing happen to him because he says it was "pointless" while CoCa was "wanting one more game for practice." Wasn't there a prizepool in the tournament where coca lost that one game on purpose? And gom didn't take him his code s spot, slayers did it, don't know how gom would have reacted. | ||
Polox
Sweden115 Posts
On December 14 2011 04:34 Kieofire wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2011 04:28 Triarier wrote: Game was pointless. Better throwing it away with something funny like a proberush than to 4-Gate. It is the same in Soccer World Championships. After a team is on 6-0 and secured first position in its group, you can watch a horrible B-Team 90 minutes long. I like Naniwa's way more. So this game was "pointless," but CoCa plays in another tournament throws a game to Byun and gets his Code S spot taken away in something that had nothing to do with GOM. That is unfair to CoCa if Naniwa has nothing happen to him because he says it was "pointless" while CoCa was "wanting one more game for practice." You do know that Nani's match versus Nestea held no significane while CoCa's did? Don't speak about things you don't know anything about. | ||
Coca Cola Classic
266 Posts
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On December 14 2011 04:36 pPingu wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2011 04:34 Kieofire wrote: On December 14 2011 04:28 Triarier wrote: Game was pointless. Better throwing it away with something funny like a proberush than to 4-Gate. It is the same in Soccer World Championships. After a team is on 6-0 and secured first position in its group, you can watch a horrible B-Team 90 minutes long. I like Naniwa's way more. So this game was "pointless," but CoCa plays in another tournament throws a game to Byun and gets his Code S spot taken away in something that had nothing to do with GOM. That is unfair to CoCa if Naniwa has nothing happen to him because he says it was "pointless" while CoCa was "wanting one more game for practice." Wasn't there a prizepool in the tournament where coca lost that one game on purpose? The prizepool was $100 for the tourney, and Coca still won the whole set. Coca's game was at worst equivalent to Naniwa's. If the community is going to be harsh on players, at least be consistent. | ||
Kieofire
United States1809 Posts
On December 14 2011 04:36 Polox wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2011 04:34 Kieofire wrote: On December 14 2011 04:28 Triarier wrote: Game was pointless. Better throwing it away with something funny like a proberush than to 4-Gate. It is the same in Soccer World Championships. After a team is on 6-0 and secured first position in its group, you can watch a horrible B-Team 90 minutes long. I like Naniwa's way more. So this game was "pointless," but CoCa plays in another tournament throws a game to Byun and gets his Code S spot taken away in something that had nothing to do with GOM. That is unfair to CoCa if Naniwa has nothing happen to him because he says it was "pointless" while CoCa was "wanting one more game for practice." You do know that Nani's match versus Nestea held no significane while CoCa's did? Don't speak about things you don't know anything about. So it is still a match that he should have tried in, you didn't see HerO throw his last match away because he was 0-3 did you? | ||
ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
Like Gracken said, if you want people to take things seriously, don't have meaningless matches On December 14 2011 04:38 Kieofire wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2011 04:36 Polox wrote: On December 14 2011 04:34 Kieofire wrote: On December 14 2011 04:28 Triarier wrote: Game was pointless. Better throwing it away with something funny like a proberush than to 4-Gate. It is the same in Soccer World Championships. After a team is on 6-0 and secured first position in its group, you can watch a horrible B-Team 90 minutes long. I like Naniwa's way more. So this game was "pointless," but CoCa plays in another tournament throws a game to Byun and gets his Code S spot taken away in something that had nothing to do with GOM. That is unfair to CoCa if Naniwa has nothing happen to him because he says it was "pointless" while CoCa was "wanting one more game for practice." You do know that Nani's match versus Nestea held no significane while CoCa's did? Don't speak about things you don't know anything about. So it is still a match that he should have tried in, you didn't see HerO throw his last match away because he was 0-3 did you? That match had implications for other people's seeding | ||
WightyCity
Canada887 Posts
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gitarrojoe
Germany69 Posts
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SenorChang
Australia4729 Posts
Rationality just seemed to have been hurled out the window for some people :| On December 14 2011 04:38 ffadicted wrote: I could be wrong, but hasn't it happened before in gom tournaments that if a group match is meaningless, they don't play it out? Why was it different this time anyway? Like Gracken said, if you want people to take things seriously, don't have meaningless matches Show nested quote + On December 14 2011 04:38 Kieofire wrote: On December 14 2011 04:36 Polox wrote: On December 14 2011 04:34 Kieofire wrote: On December 14 2011 04:28 Triarier wrote: Game was pointless. Better throwing it away with something funny like a proberush than to 4-Gate. It is the same in Soccer World Championships. After a team is on 6-0 and secured first position in its group, you can watch a horrible B-Team 90 minutes long. I like Naniwa's way more. So this game was "pointless," but CoCa plays in another tournament throws a game to Byun and gets his Code S spot taken away in something that had nothing to do with GOM. That is unfair to CoCa if Naniwa has nothing happen to him because he says it was "pointless" while CoCa was "wanting one more game for practice." You do know that Nani's match versus Nestea held no significane while CoCa's did? Don't speak about things you don't know anything about. So it is still a match that he should have tried in, you didn't see HerO throw his last match away because he was 0-3 did you? That match had implications for other people's seeding In AOL and Up/Down matches they wouldn't play meaningless matches. | ||
Paladia
802 Posts
Despite being from a very small country (which means almost no "free" supporters), everything he does causes massive amounts of attention. And in the online world, attention is king. Even if you are just slightly into Starcraft for sure you will know who Naniwa and Quantic gaming is by now, every move he makes causes a stir. No one cares if others BM, do thumbs down or rushes in a game but when Naniwa does it the world almost stops. So I salute you Naniwa, I don't think anyone would have been able to generate this amount of attention and I definitely think this is a great thing for your esports career. | ||
raf3776
United States1904 Posts
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CEO
Sweden16 Posts
People should be annoyed at the organizers instead. They're the ones who decided not to have a loser's bracket. | ||
bruteMax
Canada339 Posts
Naniwa also showed some disrespect to Nestea, who was prepared to play, and to Gom. But calls for Naniwa's head are more than a little overblown imo. Besides, it's good to have a polarizing figure like Naniwa in the scene. It makes following SC2 much more interesting. | ||
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pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
On December 14 2011 04:38 SeaSwift wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2011 04:36 pPingu wrote: On December 14 2011 04:34 Kieofire wrote: On December 14 2011 04:28 Triarier wrote: Game was pointless. Better throwing it away with something funny like a proberush than to 4-Gate. It is the same in Soccer World Championships. After a team is on 6-0 and secured first position in its group, you can watch a horrible B-Team 90 minutes long. I like Naniwa's way more. So this game was "pointless," but CoCa plays in another tournament throws a game to Byun and gets his Code S spot taken away in something that had nothing to do with GOM. That is unfair to CoCa if Naniwa has nothing happen to him because he says it was "pointless" while CoCa was "wanting one more game for practice." Wasn't there a prizepool in the tournament where coca lost that one game on purpose? The prizepool was $100 for the tourney, and Coca still won the whole set. Coca's game was at worst equivalent to Naniwa's. If the community is going to be harsh on players, at least be consistent. Pretty sure coca lost and that's what was the biggest problem http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285580 Coca had won the first game in the series, and he was also winning the second but then Byun asked him to leave and Coca did. Byun won the third game and advanced to the next round. | ||
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