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Naniwa Interview - Blizzard Cup Group B - Page 32

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softan
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden113 Posts
December 13 2011 18:30 GMT
#621
On December 14 2011 03:29 fush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 03:25 4of8 wrote:
On December 14 2011 03:17 FidoDido wrote:
On December 14 2011 03:14 Pandahats wrote:
Its a sad day to be an E-Sports fan :-(

A sad sad sad sad sad day

I'm a sad Panda


aw.. poor panda, I'll give you a hug. That Naniwa will not hurt you anymore!

on a side note, according to snowbird's twitter (gomtv's admin), they have already decided to never invite Naniwa to another special tournament outside of the main GSL tournament due to the negative responses from the Korean viewers.
So what I'm trying to say is... we should stop arguing over this because the verdict has been decided.

So you can be disqualified for "invitational tournaments" because the viewers didn't like your behaviour? Shame on you GOMTV...


if you read the actual twitter post, he mentioned that nani won't be invited to invitationals. it has no effect on things he can qualify for, such as the main GSL tournament. how is that a problem?


I guess it just means that you can NEVER please everybody.
Darksteel
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland319 Posts
December 13 2011 18:30 GMT
#622
On December 14 2011 03:15 zestzorb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 03:07 Mattchew wrote:
Anyone comparing this to other sports is completely incorrect. Players in other professional sports are judged and paid on statistics, leadership and ability to win (among other things). For the 0 and 13 colts, none of the games left this season matter to them and barely matter to the teams they play. However the colts players and coaches will still try their absolute hardest because there is a substantial amount of money and job secruity on the line if the players play well and the coaches prove they can coach well.

In golf, the out of contention players get cut from a tournament. In tennis there is no tournament system like this. This result is a complete product of Format of this Blizzard Cup. The amount of money gained doesn't change, there is no official world ranking at stake, there is no team invite or tournament invite that is being gained or missed by winning or losing, this game was a free showmatch.

Should Naniwa have probe rushed, no, even he said this. Should we blame him, no. Blame the tournament and its dumbass format.


Pros don't throw games on showmatches.


Oh but they do ! Even the korean players (like NesTea) played "fun tactics" in showmatches before one GSL final and thus lost to foreigners who played seriously then.
IncinX
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2 Posts
December 13 2011 18:30 GMT
#623
I guess he couldn't just forfeit. Seems a little similar to Idra rage =)
For Aiur
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
December 13 2011 18:30 GMT
#624
my question is...how will StarTale respond to this??? Will their Korean players still practice with Naniwa as much as before? Will they still welcome Naniwa?? Or will they do what MVP did and ignore him?
fush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada563 Posts
December 13 2011 18:30 GMT
#625
On December 14 2011 03:30 softan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 03:29 fush wrote:
On December 14 2011 03:25 4of8 wrote:
On December 14 2011 03:17 FidoDido wrote:
On December 14 2011 03:14 Pandahats wrote:
Its a sad day to be an E-Sports fan :-(

A sad sad sad sad sad day

I'm a sad Panda


aw.. poor panda, I'll give you a hug. That Naniwa will not hurt you anymore!

on a side note, according to snowbird's twitter (gomtv's admin), they have already decided to never invite Naniwa to another special tournament outside of the main GSL tournament due to the negative responses from the Korean viewers.
So what I'm trying to say is... we should stop arguing over this because the verdict has been decided.

So you can be disqualified for "invitational tournaments" because the viewers didn't like your behaviour? Shame on you GOMTV...


if you read the actual twitter post, he mentioned that nani won't be invited to invitationals. it has no effect on things he can qualify for, such as the main GSL tournament. how is that a problem?


I guess it just means that you can NEVER please everybody.


amen to that
zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
December 13 2011 18:31 GMT
#626
On December 14 2011 03:25 4of8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 03:17 FidoDido wrote:

on a side note, according to snowbird's twitter (gomtv's admin), they have already decided to never invite Naniwa to another special tournament outside of the main GSL tournament due to the negative responses from the Korean viewers.
So what I'm trying to say is... we should stop arguing over this because the verdict has been decided.

So you can be disqualified for "invitational tournaments" because the viewers didn't like your behaviour? Shame on you GOMTV...


I've gotten the feeling GOMTV cares extremely little for its non-korean audience anyways. There are tons of examples of this (I think most viewers know this).... obviously they get most of their money from koreans I suppose, but don't act as if everything is so "international" then >_>!
(:
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
December 13 2011 18:31 GMT
#627
On December 14 2011 03:29 Jampackedeon wrote:
I booed Nani after the thumbs down incident at MLG (I was there in person), and later cheered him for his good mannered loss to Leenock in the finals. I totally understand his decision, and think it was also a nice snub to what I consider an inferior format (Bo1 group matches are sooooo fickle, and deprive us of good games [though today's were GREAT]).

Also, I'm still pissed that Stephano just barely didn't qualify as his play is so unique and I think that seeing him versus Koreans would be the ultimate treat and a great display of foreigner skill.

umm he did qualify, he just didnt advance
www.superbeerbrothers.com
zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 18:34:03
December 13 2011 18:33 GMT
#628
On December 14 2011 03:30 ninjamyst wrote:
my question is...how will StarTale respond to this??? Will their Korean players still practice with Naniwa as much as before? Will they still welcome Naniwa?? Or will they do what MVP did and ignore him?


"To be continued... Tune in next time in another episode of Drama@GOM! Shown at any given time - on the teamliquid.net forum!" :D
(:
Blaine
Profile Joined February 2011
Italy188 Posts
December 13 2011 18:34 GMT
#629
didn't even watch the game since it was meaningless so i perfectly agree with naniwa, but i might be a little biased cause he's my favourite player
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
December 13 2011 18:34 GMT
#630
On December 14 2011 03:31 zanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 03:25 4of8 wrote:
On December 14 2011 03:17 FidoDido wrote:

on a side note, according to snowbird's twitter (gomtv's admin), they have already decided to never invite Naniwa to another special tournament outside of the main GSL tournament due to the negative responses from the Korean viewers.
So what I'm trying to say is... we should stop arguing over this because the verdict has been decided.

So you can be disqualified for "invitational tournaments" because the viewers didn't like your behaviour? Shame on you GOMTV...


I've gotten the feeling GOMTV cares extremely little for its non-korean audience anyways. There are tons of examples of this (I think most viewers know this).... obviously they get most of their money from koreans I suppose, but don't act as if everything is so "international" then >_>!

ummm what? the only complaint I have about gom is the bad stream quality. I have never felt that they cared less about me as a foreign viewer though. Hell they held a finals in California for foreign fans
www.superbeerbrothers.com
ParkwayDrive
Profile Joined July 2011
United States328 Posts
December 13 2011 18:36 GMT
#631
slayers_boxer would have never let this happen.

lost some respect for nani today
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
December 13 2011 18:36 GMT
#632
On December 14 2011 03:31 zanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 03:25 4of8 wrote:
On December 14 2011 03:17 FidoDido wrote:

on a side note, according to snowbird's twitter (gomtv's admin), they have already decided to never invite Naniwa to another special tournament outside of the main GSL tournament due to the negative responses from the Korean viewers.
So what I'm trying to say is... we should stop arguing over this because the verdict has been decided.

So you can be disqualified for "invitational tournaments" because the viewers didn't like your behaviour? Shame on you GOMTV...


I've gotten the feeling GOMTV cares extremely little for its non-korean audience anyways. There are tons of examples of this (I think most viewers know this).... obviously they get most of their money from koreans I suppose, but don't act as if everything is so "international" then >_>!


They gave us an english cast, free stream, revised quite a lot of their showtimes to be more reasonable to NA (used to be 2am-5am EST), they brought their finals here, they allowed inclusion of winners from foreign tourneys into the Global Invitational, they changed their pricing structure due to feedback from not only their community but ours, they changed their tournament structure for the next year with the same reason, they ran ads to reduce the ticket costs, they allowed Twitchtv to broadcast their Global Invitational games, they gave invite spots to foreigners in the Code A and S, they respond quite cordially via twitter and their forum, and Mr. Chae is really cool to meet.

Tons of examples otherwise, thank you.
Yargh
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3703 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 18:39:12
December 13 2011 18:37 GMT
#633
Nani spreading some truth, people need to calm the fuck down. The funniest part is that people would have been perfectly fine with him just 4 gating, and now lets be honest that also had no chance of winning vs nestea on antiga shipyard...
zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 18:39:09
December 13 2011 18:37 GMT
#634
On December 14 2011 03:34 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 03:31 zanga wrote:
On December 14 2011 03:25 4of8 wrote:
On December 14 2011 03:17 FidoDido wrote:

on a side note, according to snowbird's twitter (gomtv's admin), they have already decided to never invite Naniwa to another special tournament outside of the main GSL tournament due to the negative responses from the Korean viewers.
So what I'm trying to say is... we should stop arguing over this because the verdict has been decided.

So you can be disqualified for "invitational tournaments" because the viewers didn't like your behaviour? Shame on you GOMTV...


I've gotten the feeling GOMTV cares extremely little for its non-korean audience anyways. There are tons of examples of this (I think most viewers know this).... obviously they get most of their money from koreans I suppose, but don't act as if everything is so "international" then >_>!

ummm what? the only complaint I have about gom is the bad stream quality. I have never felt that they cared less about me as a foreign viewer though. Hell they held a finals in California for foreign fans


Ok you are indeed right, it was great that they come to Blizzcon which was really cool.

I was just thinking of the International stream not having their own production, always missing out on information they show in korean only (which you always see on the projected wall behind the castors), random people moving about behind the commentators, such as the camera man who always sits there, throwing up random stuff on screen that the castors has to commentate.... ANYWAYS I didnt want to mention it here since its quite off-topic .. but I needed to reply : ).

Never mind! I love Mr. Chae and all hes doing for us.
(:
soulking
Profile Joined December 2011
United States10 Posts
December 13 2011 18:38 GMT
#635
someone lock this thread down...

User was warned for this post
fush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada563 Posts
December 13 2011 18:39 GMT
#636
On December 14 2011 03:37 Lorch wrote:
Nani spreading some truth, people need to calm the fuck down.


there are better ways to "spread some truth" than how he did it. he could have easily played and said something in the interview after.

last time i checked, the correct way to complain about something isn't to piss on it in front of an audience.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
December 13 2011 18:40 GMT
#637
On December 14 2011 03:26 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 03:25 4of8 wrote:
On December 14 2011 03:17 FidoDido wrote:
On December 14 2011 03:14 Pandahats wrote:
Its a sad day to be an E-Sports fan :-(

A sad sad sad sad sad day

I'm a sad Panda


aw.. poor panda, I'll give you a hug. That Naniwa will not hurt you anymore!

on a side note, according to snowbird's twitter (gomtv's admin), they have already decided to never invite Naniwa to another special tournament outside of the main GSL tournament due to the negative responses from the Korean viewers.
So what I'm trying to say is... we should stop arguing over this because the verdict has been decided.

So you can be disqualified for "invitational tournaments" because the viewers didn't like your behaviour? Shame on you GOMTV...


Shame on Naniwa more like it.


yeah shame on him for being a human being and making a mistake when he was extremely disappointed to be out of a major tourney, people are fucking gross, fuck this drama over nothing
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
December 13 2011 18:41 GMT
#638
On December 14 2011 03:36 ParkwayDrive wrote:
slayers_boxer would have never let this happen.

lost some respect for nani today

No 'cause he would do some ridiculous build that wouldn't win him the game anyway...
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
December 13 2011 18:42 GMT
#639
I really hope ST understands why he did what he did, I'd hate to see his practice schedule suffer because he decided to probe rush instead of 4 gate...
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 18:42:46
December 13 2011 18:42 GMT
#640
Well, in my opinion this actually IS a big deal.

Naniwa had "screen time" and exposure in one of the bigest events of the year!!
Furthermore this was a game against one of the best, at least mostly hyped, players in SC2!!

So in the end he has an obligation to his team quantic (as well as his fans) and should have just tried his best, despite the bad mindset.
bad move nani....
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