EPTNaniwa Interview - Blizzard Cup Group B - Page 26
| Forum Index > SC2 General |
|
Blackrobe
United States806 Posts
| ||
|
Mclvor
Italy15 Posts
| ||
|
dafunk
France521 Posts
Imagine a second if Rafael Nadal came into his last match at the Masters of London and just threw the game away intentionaly because "there was nothing to fight for". Imagine for a second how people, press and sponsors would have react. If you want eSport to go big, you have to act like a professional. PS : What is pretty depressing is the attitude of you all that consider this not a big deal... That means everything about how low you think about our SPORT. | ||
|
Helios.Star
United States548 Posts
On December 13 2011 23:52 SaetZero wrote: Been a Nani fan since one of his early games where he went DTs vs WhiteRa on Temple. He's done some dumb shit, but his play has always made me stay a fan. And I will still stay a fan. But this is disheartening. In the professional world of sports, shit can happen, and I get that. + Show Spoiler + In a old Formula 1 race, Senna had the championship won basically, but not on lockdown (a no point race, while his main rival won would have lost it) so Senna basically crashed his opponent in the first turn on the first lap to ensure that couldn't happen. Disgraceful? Maybe. A Professional 'win no matter what' mindset? I think so. But honestly, fuck.... if the game doesn't matter, just do something dumb. Proxy dual stargate, or forge expand to his natural, or just 5 gate zealots. Anything. At least give a good time, or play an autopilot cheesy build. If you are too crushed to do something right, I get that... but you ARE a professional. And professionals do their job. I'll stay a fan... but a lot of respect was lost. Why is doing an "autopilot cheesy build" professional but what he did isnt? If he is a professional and professionals do their job like you said, wouldnt he have to play his absolute best every game? Because it sounds to me like youre saying he should have done some bs strategy where he more than likely would have lost anyway, like a probe rush... How is tricking the fans into thinking hes trying better than what he did? That makes no sense. | ||
|
Ace.Xile
United States286 Posts
On December 14 2011 02:34 Executor1 wrote: So you actually think that sending 7 probes to a players base and taking your hands off your keyboard is a legitmate strategy? He straight up said he threw the game in the interview, are you having trouble reading again? Did you just try and say i have reading comprehension problems and then proceed to try and state that naniwa came out and said he threw away the game against nestea. Oh god... not you people. | ||
|
teh_longinator
Canada725 Posts
But nice interview. It's always nice to see the players' thoughts. | ||
|
Yaki
France4234 Posts
| ||
|
mememolly
4765 Posts
| ||
|
Qikz
United Kingdom12033 Posts
| ||
|
Flowjo
United States928 Posts
On December 14 2011 02:36 Helios.Star wrote: Why is doing an "autopilot cheesy build" professional but what he did isnt? If he is a professional and professionals do their job like you said, wouldnt he have to play his absolute best every game? Because it sounds to me like youre saying he should have done some bs strategy where he more than likely would have lost anyway, like a probe rush... How is tricking the fans into thinking hes trying better than what he did? That makes no sense. Because.. it's the difference in letting substitute players play a meaningless game compared to a team lets say... shoots his own soccer ball into his own goal. Or they just all fuck each other mindlessly on the field. Okay not the greatest example but I hope you understand. | ||
|
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On December 14 2011 02:38 mememolly wrote: blame the format not the player Agree with this. Having a situation where there's " nothing to fight for " is a flaw in itself. | ||
|
fush
Canada563 Posts
On December 14 2011 02:37 TurkeyKnight wrote: If it's a meaningless game, then I'm surprised he didn't just leave from the start. But nice interview. It's always nice to see the players' thoughts. right, so in sports when you're out of the playoff race, just don't bother playing? blame the league structure, not the team right? no point wasting the viewers' time. | ||
|
Coca Cola Classic
266 Posts
Does anyone remember the France debacle/fall out from the previous World Cup? Sponsors pulling money from French Football etc? | ||
|
zanga
659 Posts
On December 14 2011 02:39 Dodgin wrote: Agree with this. Having a situation where there's " nothing to fight for " is a flaw in itself. Agreed. | ||
|
Tarschi
Sweden185 Posts
| ||
|
chosenkerrigan
858 Posts
| ||
|
Executor1
1353 Posts
On December 14 2011 02:36 dafunk wrote: People are reacting like this because its eSport and even on TL people dont consider it such a big deal. Imagine a second if Rafael Nadal came into his last match at the Masters of London and just threw the game away intentionaly because "there was nothing to fight for". Imagine for a second how people, press and sponsors would have react. If you want eSport to go big, you have to act like a professional. PS : What is pretty depressing is the attitude of you all that consider this not a big deal... Agreed anyone who says its not a big deal and that you would do it yourself. You guys must have a terrible attitude in life. You will only do things for compensation right? You do nothing for pride or glory or just to appease your friends or teammates at the very least? like ive said before, if you should only play games that matter, then what do progamers do every freaking day? They play practice games THAT DONT MATTER for anything else than the sake of practice, they play 100 of games per week that have no relevance except to make them better (extremely important) or for the sake of the fans (if they are streaming) Any player with a reasonable attitude would look at this as a golden opportunity to get some practice in with one of the best zergs in the world in a tournament setting. | ||
|
Thurken
961 Posts
vs BRAT_OK : he won the bo3 despite losing 1 game, faced Sen, and won. vs Cloud : if the first post implies that stephano messed up with the ranking of the players in his group, well that's not true. Stephano eliminated Cloud because he scored 1 game in their bo3. | ||
miwi
Sweden647 Posts
On December 14 2011 02:36 dafunk wrote: People are reacting like this because its eSport and even on TL people dont consider it such a big deal. Imagine a second if Rafael Nadal came into his last match at the Masters of London and just threw the game away intentionaly because "there was nothing to fight for". Imagine for a second how people, press and sponsors would have react. If you want eSport to go big, you have to act like a professional. PS : What is pretty depressing is the attitude of you all that consider this not a big deal... not even comparable at all. a better comparison would be: imagine if nadal is behind 3 sets in a best of 5, and then they force him to play the last two and he throws those sets away... which would have nothing to do with the result of the match but people might get pissed because they really want to see nadal play. | ||
|
FluXxxx
Germany57 Posts
On December 14 2011 02:34 sidesprang wrote: He plays to win and be the best, as he has stated and proved time and again. Winning the game vs nestea is not going to help any of those two as none of them would play to their full ability. i see it like this, even if you don't have a chance to advance you play just to win at least one game. even if it was a different situation but when BratOk and stefano played this ridiculous match to avoid a korean in the quarterfinals(i don't remember the tournament,sorry),i would have liked to see them trying to win just because you need to beat everyone if you want to win something and if you have the "mindset of a winner",you don't care when you face the all mighty opponent,you face him and try your best!so i was disappointed by this game too. i don't like the way nani thought and i don't like what stefano and bratok did,regardless what is on stake,you play to win every single game. sure nani might have been frustrated but i would have liked to see him playing. this way it looks like he doesn't care about small achievements. | ||
| ||
