EPTPeople are saying "oh why not 4-gate" but then if you 4-gate to lose you're still throwing the game.
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Gowerly
United Kingdom916 Posts
People are saying "oh why not 4-gate" but then if you 4-gate to lose you're still throwing the game. | ||
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CrappyHippo
Canada275 Posts
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On December 14 2011 00:49 Xiron wrote: Have you ever lost a game ever? I personally don't want to play directly after an important game. If I'm forced to play when I just dont want to because it's senseless since I'm on tilt, I quit. Naniwa did just the same. What expectations are you even talking about? If Naniwa crushed Nestea, everyone would have said 'Nestea was on tilt bla'. If Naniwa got crushed everyone would say the same about Nani. There wouldnt have been a grudge match because it was in an not competitive situation anymore, so the restults dont matter. If you play sports competitively you'll find dozens of times when things don't go your way and you find yourself in Naniwa's position. It's one of the worst things feelings ever, but that's sports. If a tournament wants you to play out the remaining matches you take it like a man. If I pulled off something similar as Naniwa I would get suspended by my club. edit: After typing I actually recalled a chess tournament where I did something similar as Naniwa. I call tell you that didn't end well for me XD | ||
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
On December 14 2011 00:56 Gowerly wrote: So, from what some people have been saying, it's not that he threw the game that upsets you, but that he didn't throw it in a more elaborate way? People are saying "oh why not 4-gate" but then if you 4-gate to lose you're still throwing the game. We wouldn't know then so there would be no drama. If we knew he was 4-gating to lose there would still be backlash. | ||
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4ZakeN87
Sweden1071 Posts
Well they only mistake on Naniwas part was to not realise that for some reason people react over this. Next time he should just do a cheese or are 4 gate so he can save himself from this. | ||
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shadymmj
1906 Posts
On December 14 2011 00:49 Xiron wrote: Have you ever lost a game ever? I personally don't want to play directly after an important game. If I'm forced to play when I just dont want to because it's senseless since I'm on tilt, I quit. Naniwa did just the same. What expectations are you even talking about? If Naniwa crushed Nestea, everyone would have said 'Nestea was on tilt bla'. If Naniwa got crushed everyone would say the same about Nani. There wouldnt have been a grudge match because it was in a not competitive environment anymore, so the restults dont matter. some people say he plays only to win ($$ - MISSING KEYWORD), but i think this is a loser's mentality. no one can fault you if you don't play at 100%, but you need to convince your fans, sponsors and the audience that you're making some effort. if not, he should just just cited exhaustion issues or cheesed. this guy is a moron. there's just no other words for it. he knows he isn't well liked and instead of getting his shit together for what could be the most important tournament of his life, he pulls off another stunt like this. then he asks, "why do people hate me?" | ||
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Vanix
Canada59 Posts
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Bulkers
Poland509 Posts
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careohx
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Chinchillin
United States259 Posts
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rblstr
Ireland398 Posts
On December 14 2011 00:36 The KY wrote: Coca vs Byun wasn't pointless though. Coca dropped the game on purpose to get Byun a Code A spot. Totally different. Wrong. Better educate yourself before posting. | ||
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Slider954
United States342 Posts
On December 14 2011 00:56 Gowerly wrote: So, from what some people have been saying, it's not that he threw the game that upsets you, but that he didn't throw it in a more elaborate way? People are saying "oh why not 4-gate" but then if you 4-gate to lose you're still throwing the game. At least for me, I'm upset that he threw the game period, regardless of how he did it. If he had 4 gated and sent his army into Nestea's base and taken his hands off the keyboard, I'd still be mad. The people that are saying that tried the drone rush and it failed are forgetting the fact that he sent them and then stopped playing, he let it fail, no micro once they were on their way. If he had made any effort to try and keep them alive I'd probably wouldn't be as upset but he didn't. | ||
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Titorelli
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exupery
Korea (South)27 Posts
On December 14 2011 00:51 Azaryah wrote: People only care because it was Naniwa. If a Korean pro did this, everyone would sympathize instead of crying foul. Not at all. | ||
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hinnolinn
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
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FluXxxx
Germany57 Posts
On December 14 2011 00:58 Ysellian wrote: If you play sports competitively you'll find dozens of times when things don't go your way and you find yourself in Naniwa's position. It's one of the worst things feelings ever, but that's sports. If a tournament wants you to play out the remaining matches you take it like a man. If I pulled off something similar as Naniwa I would get suspended by my club. edit: After typing I actually recalled a chess tournament where I did something similar as Naniwa. I call tell you that didn't end well for me XD i have played so many different sports competitively,soccer,table top soccer, volleyball whatever and there have always been events where i or my team only have played decider matches that i didn't want to play because i was disappointed but i have played everytime because i fucking love these kind of sports!!! I have just played for the fun and some of these matches have been the most funniest matches i have ever played! | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
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exupery
Korea (South)27 Posts
On December 14 2011 00:39 ellirc wrote: Did you not know that Nani played four games today just like everybody else? He lost the first three ones very narrowly and you say he didn't do his best? Get real. I mean the final game today. MINDSET | ||
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MeryxDelBarracks
United States2 Posts
I would not say this was a defining moment in his life but in that time he made a decision that gaming was his life and a career that he would pursue on his own if that was the case. I daresay that most people in this world don't have that kind of drive and passion that they would risk everything to be great. That drive still remains in Naniwa: 2nd place is not good enough. This is what he wants, what he needs is some understanding from the community as well as some compassion. Because I have faith that Naniwa can improve himself not only as a gamer but also as a person and we need to allow him to do that. This -one- game may be the equivalent of a black eye for a while but it will fade and we should not dwell on it. A Naniwa that was kicked out of home and school, who overcame personal issues and community doubts, who maintained standards of self-imposed excellence, and who went on to win GSL and every foreign tournament as well...I believe that this is possible in the future and I would be proud to have a foreigner like that representing in the Starcraft 2 scene. | ||
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