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meh, i think this sort of hype is unnecessary and will just disappoint people when he stumbles a bit. the reason people are falling to forGG is because nobody knows his style yet. he has shown macro games in his game vs sage though.
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On December 07 2011 11:54 daxile wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 11:52 Doodsmack wrote:
6 GSL games is not nearly enough for us to be saying Fin will win a GSL title soon. Simply put Fin had a relatively easy path to Code S this season. I'll reserve judgment until he consistently does well against players who are currently performing well.
I don't think Sage, Polt, or July is a "relatively easy path", I agree with you about reserving judgment for later with regards to winning a GSL but it's clear to me he has at least some potential to do well in Code S, especially with how easily he has defeated his opponents.
I feel that it is worth pointing out that a big part to GSL is watching previous games by the person you're palying against and working out the best strategy. ForGG has access to a good bank of replays of his oppoents styles due to the amount of time they have been in GSL but they don't have the same for him.
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On December 07 2011 11:43 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 11:36 oneofthem wrote:On December 07 2011 10:54 StarStruck wrote:There is no Best player in the world. Okay? Got it? Good. People can label them whatever they want, but it doesn't make them right. Same with the tags. ForGG might try to sell the new nickname Fin, but it doesn't mean anything. People will call him whatever the heck they want. You remember him as ForGG. I remember him as ForGG thus I'm going to continue calling him ForGG because that is who he is to me. Does it really matter? Not really. Players can keep calling themselves all the corny nicknames in the world. Doesn't mean the new ones will stick at all.  flash. you lose I wouldn't even call him the best at BW at the moment. Have you been watching PL? So far he hasn't faced anyone noteworthy and others could have taken advantage of him in the same position. So no. Nice try though. There are several players who are doing very well at the moment. Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 11:31 canikizu wrote:On December 07 2011 11:15 nitdkim wrote:On December 07 2011 10:54 Hall0wed wrote:
ForGG has been playing hardcore for 10+ months, nearly as much as most other players. That is why he is good. source on that? He has been playing on multiple accounts and placing top GM for a long time. The number of games on all his accounts are even more than regular pro players'. Joining oGs and living in the team house environment help him a lot with strategies and clean up his plays. That's why he's becoming a good player. There's a valid reason why he's been laddering so much. He didn't join oGs until very recently. ;/
You know nothing about BW. Just stop.
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I will continue to call him Fin because that is the new name he has chosen and hence I respect that choice.
His micro/multitasking has been shown to be top-tier already. I cannot say that he will dominate Code S but for certain he deserves to be Code S and will likely stay there for some time.
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On December 07 2011 12:02 J1.au wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 11:43 StarStruck wrote:On December 07 2011 11:36 oneofthem wrote:On December 07 2011 10:54 StarStruck wrote:There is no Best player in the world. Okay? Got it? Good. People can label them whatever they want, but it doesn't make them right. Same with the tags. ForGG might try to sell the new nickname Fin, but it doesn't mean anything. People will call him whatever the heck they want. You remember him as ForGG. I remember him as ForGG thus I'm going to continue calling him ForGG because that is who he is to me. Does it really matter? Not really. Players can keep calling themselves all the corny nicknames in the world. Doesn't mean the new ones will stick at all. flash. you lose I wouldn't even call him the best at BW at the moment. Have you been watching PL? So far he hasn't faced anyone noteworthy and others could have taken advantage of him in the same position. So no. Nice try though. There are several players who are doing very well at the moment. On December 07 2011 11:31 canikizu wrote:On December 07 2011 11:15 nitdkim wrote:On December 07 2011 10:54 Hall0wed wrote:
ForGG has been playing hardcore for 10+ months, nearly as much as most other players. That is why he is good. source on that? He has been playing on multiple accounts and placing top GM for a long time. The number of games on all his accounts are even more than regular pro players'. Joining oGs and living in the team house environment help him a lot with strategies and clean up his plays. That's why he's becoming a good player. There's a valid reason why he's been laddering so much. He didn't join oGs until very recently. ;/ You know nothing about BW. Just stop.
Thank you for almost making me spit out my water.
Question have you been watching PL recently? Are you aware that Flash just had surgery? Have you seen Effort and JangBi dominate last week?
Didn't think so. Before you attempt to try and come at me bro do your research. I was there for every match and I'm all up in those LR biznatches.
There are plenty of players who can take out a vulnerable Flash right now. That's only two of them. Happy hunting!
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On December 07 2011 11:43 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 11:36 oneofthem wrote:On December 07 2011 10:54 StarStruck wrote:There is no Best player in the world. Okay? Got it? Good. People can label them whatever they want, but it doesn't make them right. Same with the tags. ForGG might try to sell the new nickname Fin, but it doesn't mean anything. People will call him whatever the heck they want. You remember him as ForGG. I remember him as ForGG thus I'm going to continue calling him ForGG because that is who he is to me. Does it really matter? Not really. Players can keep calling themselves all the corny nicknames in the world. Doesn't mean the new ones will stick at all. flash. you lose I wouldn't even call him the best at BW at the moment. Have you been watching PL? So far he hasn't faced anyone noteworthy and others could have taken advantage of him in the same position. So no. Nice try though. There are several players who are doing very well at the moment. Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 11:31 canikizu wrote:On December 07 2011 11:15 nitdkim wrote:On December 07 2011 10:54 Hall0wed wrote:
ForGG has been playing hardcore for 10+ months, nearly as much as most other players. That is why he is good. source on that? He has been playing on multiple accounts and placing top GM for a long time. The number of games on all his accounts are even more than regular pro players'. Joining oGs and living in the team house environment help him a lot with strategies and clean up his plays. That's why he's becoming a good player. There's a valid reason why he's been laddering so much. He didn't join oGs until very recently. ;/
I don't mean to derail the thread here but...Flash not the best at bw at the moment? Get real
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On December 07 2011 11:56 Zinjil wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 11:47 robopork wrote:On December 07 2011 05:14 Zinjil wrote:
His name change away from ForGG seems to have meant something more to fin, and he is effectively a brand new player with the skillset and knowledge of a champion already inside of him, but the drive and ambition of a newly-recruited no-name. You may be right about about the drive and ambition, but he hasn't used the handle fOrGG in game since well before he retired from bw. I really think that more than inherently superior skill, bw players will bring an inherently superior work ethic, which will ultimately grant them success. The work ethic thing is absolutely true, but so far it seems like only a few players really have the drive to get to the same level a second time. I kind of foresee pride being the biggest hurdle to success for some huge players, as the hill of sc2's skill level might not be as large as bw's mountain, but it is still rocky and takes time to climb.
I always thought that was the x-factor for MVP too. The fact that he could play many different styles well, tailor strategies to maps (the proxy rx on Antiga knowing close spawns were disabled) and players (his mass ghost timing against July knowing he favored late game Ultras).
Other players are starting to catch up as well, like the way MMA was able to blind-side MVP in GSL September. Jjakji also showed an insane amount of preparation against Leenock with his early overlord snipes, creep denial, well-timed all-ins, ect.
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If you guys don't watch PL or participate actively in the community then stop right now before you even try to come at me.
I just answered the guys question.
There are plenty of guys who can take out a vulnerable Flash.
If you haven't been watching the games or participating in the ongoing discussions you would know that Flash may very well not be the top guy anymore, k thx.
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On December 07 2011 11:43 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 11:36 oneofthem wrote:On December 07 2011 10:54 StarStruck wrote:There is no Best player in the world. Okay? Got it? Good. People can label them whatever they want, but it doesn't make them right. Same with the tags. ForGG might try to sell the new nickname Fin, but it doesn't mean anything. People will call him whatever the heck they want. You remember him as ForGG. I remember him as ForGG thus I'm going to continue calling him ForGG because that is who he is to me. Does it really matter? Not really. Players can keep calling themselves all the corny nicknames in the world. Doesn't mean the new ones will stick at all. flash. you lose I wouldn't even call him the best at BW at the moment. Have you been watching PL? So far he hasn't faced anyone noteworthy and others could have taken advantage of him in the same position. So no. Nice try though. There are several players who are doing very well at the moment.
My understanding of it is that your original point was that there doesn't exist a 'best player in the world', and that it's just people using labels and whatnot rather than someone actually objectively being the best in the world. If that was your point, then oneofthem's reply still stands. Even if Flash is not the best right now, he was indisputably the best in the world for some time, which would contradict your point as I understand it above.
If, however, you meant to say there there is no 'best' player in the world right now, then I take back what I said above. But that begs the question why the hell are you proclaiming in a SC2 thread that there is no 'best' BW player? Of course, maybe you were actually talking about there being no best SC2 player right now. But then that would beg the question why you replied to oneofthem with a discussion of the merits of Flash's skill, rather than simply saying you weren't talking about BW. And all this leads me to think you meant what I was talking about in the first paragraph, and therefore you were actually outplayed. Nice try though.
Anyway, my personal opinion: the question who is the best in the world isn't always fruitless (edit: whether overall, or in a certain department, eg micro as the OP is suggesting here). But really, isn't it a bit too early to say either way about ForGG? Let's just sit back, see what happens, and enjoy it in the mean time :D
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On December 07 2011 12:09 Trang wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 11:43 StarStruck wrote:On December 07 2011 11:36 oneofthem wrote:On December 07 2011 10:54 StarStruck wrote:There is no Best player in the world. Okay? Got it? Good. People can label them whatever they want, but it doesn't make them right. Same with the tags. ForGG might try to sell the new nickname Fin, but it doesn't mean anything. People will call him whatever the heck they want. You remember him as ForGG. I remember him as ForGG thus I'm going to continue calling him ForGG because that is who he is to me. Does it really matter? Not really. Players can keep calling themselves all the corny nicknames in the world. Doesn't mean the new ones will stick at all. flash. you lose I wouldn't even call him the best at BW at the moment. Have you been watching PL? So far he hasn't faced anyone noteworthy and others could have taken advantage of him in the same position. So no. Nice try though. There are several players who are doing very well at the moment. My understanding of it is that your original point was that there doesn't exist a 'best player in the world', and that it's just people using labels and whatnot rather than someone actually objectively being the best in the world. If that was your point, then oneofthem's reply still stands. Even if Flash is not the best right now, he was indisputably the best in the world for some time, which would contradict your point as I understand it above. If, however, you meant to say there there is no 'best' player in the world right now, then I take back what I said above. But that begs the question why the hell are you proclaiming in a SC2 thread that there is no 'best' BW player? Of course, maybe you were actually talking about there being no best SC2 player right now. But then that would beg the question why you replied to oneofthem with a discussion of the merits of Flash's skill, rather than simply saying you weren't talking about BW. And all this leads me to think you meant what I was talking about in the first paragraph, and therefore you were actually outplayed. Nice try though. Anyway, my personal opinion: the question who is the best in the world isn't always fruitless. But really, isn't it a bit too early to say either way about ForGG? Let's just sit back, see what happens, and enjoy it in the mean time :D
There isn't one RIGHT NOW. There are a number of guys in BOTH GAMES.
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Dear lord, this shows what would happen if Midas decided he wanted to play around with the nubs in sc2
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On December 07 2011 12:06 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 12:02 J1.au wrote:On December 07 2011 11:43 StarStruck wrote:On December 07 2011 11:36 oneofthem wrote:On December 07 2011 10:54 StarStruck wrote:There is no Best player in the world. Okay? Got it? Good. People can label them whatever they want, but it doesn't make them right. Same with the tags. ForGG might try to sell the new nickname Fin, but it doesn't mean anything. People will call him whatever the heck they want. You remember him as ForGG. I remember him as ForGG thus I'm going to continue calling him ForGG because that is who he is to me. Does it really matter? Not really. Players can keep calling themselves all the corny nicknames in the world. Doesn't mean the new ones will stick at all. flash. you lose I wouldn't even call him the best at BW at the moment. Have you been watching PL? So far he hasn't faced anyone noteworthy and others could have taken advantage of him in the same position. So no. Nice try though. There are several players who are doing very well at the moment. On December 07 2011 11:31 canikizu wrote:On December 07 2011 11:15 nitdkim wrote:On December 07 2011 10:54 Hall0wed wrote:
ForGG has been playing hardcore for 10+ months, nearly as much as most other players. That is why he is good. source on that? He has been playing on multiple accounts and placing top GM for a long time. The number of games on all his accounts are even more than regular pro players'. Joining oGs and living in the team house environment help him a lot with strategies and clean up his plays. That's why he's becoming a good player. There's a valid reason why he's been laddering so much. He didn't join oGs until very recently. ;/ You know nothing about BW. Just stop. Thank you for almost making me spit out my water. Question have you been watching PL recently? Are you aware that Flash just had surgery? Have you seen Effort and JangBi dominate last week? Didn't think so. Before you attempt to try and come at me bro do your research. I was there for every match and I'm all up in those LR biznatches. There are plenty of players who can take out a vulnerable Flash right now. That's only two of them. Happy hunting!
Excuse my brashness but, are you high? Yes, Flash just recently had surgery and is still recovering to 100%.... and he is still performing in proleague. If anything that's just more proof that FlaSh is the best. Have you seen his stats? Because if you had, you wouldn't be making ridiculous comments like that ;\
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Here we go, all aboard the Teamliquid-overhype bandwagon once again!
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On December 07 2011 12:06 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 12:02 J1.au wrote:On December 07 2011 11:43 StarStruck wrote:On December 07 2011 11:36 oneofthem wrote:On December 07 2011 10:54 StarStruck wrote:There is no Best player in the world. Okay? Got it? Good. People can label them whatever they want, but it doesn't make them right. Same with the tags. ForGG might try to sell the new nickname Fin, but it doesn't mean anything. People will call him whatever the heck they want. You remember him as ForGG. I remember him as ForGG thus I'm going to continue calling him ForGG because that is who he is to me. Does it really matter? Not really. Players can keep calling themselves all the corny nicknames in the world. Doesn't mean the new ones will stick at all. flash. you lose I wouldn't even call him the best at BW at the moment. Have you been watching PL? So far he hasn't faced anyone noteworthy and others could have taken advantage of him in the same position. So no. Nice try though. There are several players who are doing very well at the moment. On December 07 2011 11:31 canikizu wrote:On December 07 2011 11:15 nitdkim wrote:On December 07 2011 10:54 Hall0wed wrote:
ForGG has been playing hardcore for 10+ months, nearly as much as most other players. That is why he is good. source on that? He has been playing on multiple accounts and placing top GM for a long time. The number of games on all his accounts are even more than regular pro players'. Joining oGs and living in the team house environment help him a lot with strategies and clean up his plays. That's why he's becoming a good player. There's a valid reason why he's been laddering so much. He didn't join oGs until very recently. ;/ You know nothing about BW. Just stop. Thank you for almost making me spit out my water. Question have you been watching PL recently? Are you aware that Flash just had surgery? Have you seen Effort and JangBi dominate last week? Didn't think so. Before you attempt to try and come at me bro do your research. I was there for every match and I'm all up in those LR biznatches. There are plenty of players who can take out a vulnerable Flash right now. That's only two of them. Happy hunting!
What? Effort didn't dominate. His game against Iris was incredibly sloppy and just about any top tier Terran could have won that game.
Meanwhile, Flash has been playing flawlessly as usual. Jangbi and Effort might be able to beat Flash (although I don't see Effort winning in a straightup game), but that doesn't change the fact that Flash is still the best player all things considered.
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On December 07 2011 12:14 fer wrote:
Here we go, all aboard the Teamliquid-overhype bandwagon once again!
Difference being Fin has made it into Code S proving that the hype was warranted.
Not a whole lot of players have made it into Code S their very first season.
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On December 07 2011 12:13 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 12:06 StarStruck wrote:On December 07 2011 12:02 J1.au wrote:On December 07 2011 11:43 StarStruck wrote:On December 07 2011 11:36 oneofthem wrote:On December 07 2011 10:54 StarStruck wrote:There is no Best player in the world. Okay? Got it? Good. People can label them whatever they want, but it doesn't make them right. Same with the tags. ForGG might try to sell the new nickname Fin, but it doesn't mean anything. People will call him whatever the heck they want. You remember him as ForGG. I remember him as ForGG thus I'm going to continue calling him ForGG because that is who he is to me. Does it really matter? Not really. Players can keep calling themselves all the corny nicknames in the world. Doesn't mean the new ones will stick at all. flash. you lose I wouldn't even call him the best at BW at the moment. Have you been watching PL? So far he hasn't faced anyone noteworthy and others could have taken advantage of him in the same position. So no. Nice try though. There are several players who are doing very well at the moment. On December 07 2011 11:31 canikizu wrote:On December 07 2011 11:15 nitdkim wrote:On December 07 2011 10:54 Hall0wed wrote:
ForGG has been playing hardcore for 10+ months, nearly as much as most other players. That is why he is good. source on that? He has been playing on multiple accounts and placing top GM for a long time. The number of games on all his accounts are even more than regular pro players'. Joining oGs and living in the team house environment help him a lot with strategies and clean up his plays. That's why he's becoming a good player. There's a valid reason why he's been laddering so much. He didn't join oGs until very recently. ;/ You know nothing about BW. Just stop. Thank you for almost making me spit out my water. Question have you been watching PL recently? Are you aware that Flash just had surgery? Have you seen Effort and JangBi dominate last week? Didn't think so. Before you attempt to try and come at me bro do your research. I was there for every match and I'm all up in those LR biznatches. There are plenty of players who can take out a vulnerable Flash right now. That's only two of them. Happy hunting! Excuse my brashness but, are you high? Yes, Flash just recently had surgery and is still recovering to 100%.... and he is still performing in proleague. If anything that's just more proof that FlaSh is the best. Have you seen his stats? Because if you had, you wouldn't be making ridiculous comments like that ;\
Seems like I hit a note with some peeps, oh my!
Again, if you want to continue this conversation please bring it up in another thread in the BW. I will gladly talk about it more there. I have been following both scenes since the beginning, so I have a pretty darn good idea of what's happening.
I'll discuss this in any LR/BW thread, but this isn't the place for discussing why Flash shouldn't be considered the very best player no matter the game right now.
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ForGG has been on an absolute tear in SC2. It's very exciting to watch him be able to execute the strategies that I feel like he's always wanted to in BW, while never slipping on macro due to SC2's less APM-intensive macro tasks.
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BTW, who even said Forgg is the best player in SC2? People have merely stated that he looks to be one of the best and that he looks like he could give the likes of Nestea and MVP a run for their money. And based on the way he's playing so far, that feels completely justified to me.
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On December 07 2011 12:19 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 12:13 SupLilSon wrote:On December 07 2011 12:06 StarStruck wrote:On December 07 2011 12:02 J1.au wrote:On December 07 2011 11:43 StarStruck wrote:On December 07 2011 11:36 oneofthem wrote:On December 07 2011 10:54 StarStruck wrote:There is no Best player in the world. Okay? Got it? Good. People can label them whatever they want, but it doesn't make them right. Same with the tags. ForGG might try to sell the new nickname Fin, but it doesn't mean anything. People will call him whatever the heck they want. You remember him as ForGG. I remember him as ForGG thus I'm going to continue calling him ForGG because that is who he is to me. Does it really matter? Not really. Players can keep calling themselves all the corny nicknames in the world. Doesn't mean the new ones will stick at all. flash. you lose I wouldn't even call him the best at BW at the moment. Have you been watching PL? So far he hasn't faced anyone noteworthy and others could have taken advantage of him in the same position. So no. Nice try though. There are several players who are doing very well at the moment. On December 07 2011 11:31 canikizu wrote:On December 07 2011 11:15 nitdkim wrote:On December 07 2011 10:54 Hall0wed wrote:
ForGG has been playing hardcore for 10+ months, nearly as much as most other players. That is why he is good. source on that? He has been playing on multiple accounts and placing top GM for a long time. The number of games on all his accounts are even more than regular pro players'. Joining oGs and living in the team house environment help him a lot with strategies and clean up his plays. That's why he's becoming a good player. There's a valid reason why he's been laddering so much. He didn't join oGs until very recently. ;/ You know nothing about BW. Just stop. Thank you for almost making me spit out my water. Question have you been watching PL recently? Are you aware that Flash just had surgery? Have you seen Effort and JangBi dominate last week? Didn't think so. Before you attempt to try and come at me bro do your research. I was there for every match and I'm all up in those LR biznatches. There are plenty of players who can take out a vulnerable Flash right now. That's only two of them. Happy hunting! Excuse my brashness but, are you high? Yes, Flash just recently had surgery and is still recovering to 100%.... and he is still performing in proleague. If anything that's just more proof that FlaSh is the best. Have you seen his stats? Because if you had, you wouldn't be making ridiculous comments like that ;\ Seems like I hit a note with some peeps, oh my! Again, if you want to continue this conversation please bring it up in another thread in the BW. I will gladly talk about it more there. I have been following both scenes since the beginning, so I have a pretty darn good idea of what's happening. I'll discuss this in any LR/BW thread, but this isn't the place for discussing why Flash shouldn't be considered the very best player no matter the game right now.
There really isn't a need for discussion. A cursory glance at their achievements and statistics would tell you who is the best and who is not. Not to mention, you acknowledge that FlaSh is in a weakened state right now due to surgery, so I just can't see how you logically use his current performance (which still seems great to me o,o) as an indicator that he isn't the best anymore. Give him some time to recover fully and we will see.
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On December 07 2011 12:18 DarkMatter_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 12:06 StarStruck wrote:On December 07 2011 12:02 J1.au wrote:On December 07 2011 11:43 StarStruck wrote:On December 07 2011 11:36 oneofthem wrote:On December 07 2011 10:54 StarStruck wrote:There is no Best player in the world. Okay? Got it? Good. People can label them whatever they want, but it doesn't make them right. Same with the tags. ForGG might try to sell the new nickname Fin, but it doesn't mean anything. People will call him whatever the heck they want. You remember him as ForGG. I remember him as ForGG thus I'm going to continue calling him ForGG because that is who he is to me. Does it really matter? Not really. Players can keep calling themselves all the corny nicknames in the world. Doesn't mean the new ones will stick at all. flash. you lose I wouldn't even call him the best at BW at the moment. Have you been watching PL? So far he hasn't faced anyone noteworthy and others could have taken advantage of him in the same position. So no. Nice try though. There are several players who are doing very well at the moment. On December 07 2011 11:31 canikizu wrote:On December 07 2011 11:15 nitdkim wrote:On December 07 2011 10:54 Hall0wed wrote:
ForGG has been playing hardcore for 10+ months, nearly as much as most other players. That is why he is good. source on that? He has been playing on multiple accounts and placing top GM for a long time. The number of games on all his accounts are even more than regular pro players'. Joining oGs and living in the team house environment help him a lot with strategies and clean up his plays. That's why he's becoming a good player. There's a valid reason why he's been laddering so much. He didn't join oGs until very recently. ;/ You know nothing about BW. Just stop. Thank you for almost making me spit out my water. Question have you been watching PL recently? Are you aware that Flash just had surgery? Have you seen Effort and JangBi dominate last week? Didn't think so. Before you attempt to try and come at me bro do your research. I was there for every match and I'm all up in those LR biznatches. There are plenty of players who can take out a vulnerable Flash right now. That's only two of them. Happy hunting! What? Effort didn't dominate. His game against Iris was incredibly sloppy and just about any top tier Terran could have won that game. Meanwhile, Flash has been playing flawlessly as usual. Jangbi and Effort might be able to beat Flash (although I don't see Effort winning in a straightup game), but that doesn't change the fact that Flash is still the best player all things considered.
What?
Effort humiliated Iris by building around 35 queens. -_-
Are you being biased? Flash went up against Hoon and had many, many holes that JangBi would have pounced on.
Hoon did practically nothing in that game to pressure Flash at all; not to mention the poor unit composition. IT WAS A COMPLETE WALKOVER!
Jesus, we had this discussion in the LR. Something tells me you weren't active in the LR thread as that match went on.
Like I said, earlier take this to the LR thread. At least read what was said prior before you try to sell me that pack of worms.
If JangBi or Effort were to play Flash right now. I don't like Flash's chances. I could name five players who looked better than Flash last week.
On December 07 2011 12:23 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 12:19 StarStruck wrote:On December 07 2011 12:13 SupLilSon wrote:On December 07 2011 12:06 StarStruck wrote:On December 07 2011 12:02 J1.au wrote:On December 07 2011 11:43 StarStruck wrote:On December 07 2011 11:36 oneofthem wrote:On December 07 2011 10:54 StarStruck wrote:There is no Best player in the world. Okay? Got it? Good. People can label them whatever they want, but it doesn't make them right. Same with the tags. ForGG might try to sell the new nickname Fin, but it doesn't mean anything. People will call him whatever the heck they want. You remember him as ForGG. I remember him as ForGG thus I'm going to continue calling him ForGG because that is who he is to me. Does it really matter? Not really. Players can keep calling themselves all the corny nicknames in the world. Doesn't mean the new ones will stick at all. flash. you lose I wouldn't even call him the best at BW at the moment. Have you been watching PL? So far he hasn't faced anyone noteworthy and others could have taken advantage of him in the same position. So no. Nice try though. There are several players who are doing very well at the moment. On December 07 2011 11:31 canikizu wrote:On December 07 2011 11:15 nitdkim wrote:On December 07 2011 10:54 Hall0wed wrote:
ForGG has been playing hardcore for 10+ months, nearly as much as most other players. That is why he is good. source on that? He has been playing on multiple accounts and placing top GM for a long time. The number of games on all his accounts are even more than regular pro players'. Joining oGs and living in the team house environment help him a lot with strategies and clean up his plays. That's why he's becoming a good player. There's a valid reason why he's been laddering so much. He didn't join oGs until very recently. ;/ You know nothing about BW. Just stop. Thank you for almost making me spit out my water. Question have you been watching PL recently? Are you aware that Flash just had surgery? Have you seen Effort and JangBi dominate last week? Didn't think so. Before you attempt to try and come at me bro do your research. I was there for every match and I'm all up in those LR biznatches. There are plenty of players who can take out a vulnerable Flash right now. That's only two of them. Happy hunting! Excuse my brashness but, are you high? Yes, Flash just recently had surgery and is still recovering to 100%.... and he is still performing in proleague. If anything that's just more proof that FlaSh is the best. Have you seen his stats? Because if you had, you wouldn't be making ridiculous comments like that ;\ Seems like I hit a note with some peeps, oh my! Again, if you want to continue this conversation please bring it up in another thread in the BW. I will gladly talk about it more there. I have been following both scenes since the beginning, so I have a pretty darn good idea of what's happening. I'll discuss this in any LR/BW thread, but this isn't the place for discussing why Flash shouldn't be considered the very best player no matter the game right now. There really isn't a need for discussion. A cursory glance at their achievements and statistics would tell you who is the best and who is not. Not to mention, you acknowledge that FlaSh is in a weakened state right now due to surgery, so I just can't see how you logically use his current performance (which still seems great to me o,o) as an indicator that he isn't the best anymore. Give him some time to recover fully and we will see.
What part of RIGHT NOW do you completely miss? I'm not talking about previous accomplishments. I'm not talking about the present or the future. I'm talking about the here and now.
JangBi won the last OSL.
I doubt Flash will win the next one.
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