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We have issued a clarification to this article after discussion with staff, read here - Heyoka
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
November 30 2011 10:50 GMT
#461
On November 30 2011 17:38 ELA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 17:28 Defacer wrote:
On November 30 2011 17:09 R1CH wrote:
All this EG stuff is distracting everyone from the awesome photos!


Can't say I dig TLO's beard. He has a handsome face!


It is a pretty handsome beard as well, to be fair

Hope he dosn't trim it before he wins a tournament.. When he does finally take a tourney, it's going to be so much more awesome for him and everyone ::-)

His beard is already well groomed (trimmed) I think you mean you hope he doesn't decide to thin it out. You have to trim a beard at least once a week or else it gets out of hand, fast.
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 10:57:46
November 30 2011 10:54 GMT
#462
I am also really not sure about this apology. You surely can apologize if you feel this write-up is not your best work (the no-name section is really not good), but to apologize to EG for your opinion is rather strange.
Well, maybe if TL wants to have only neutral news in the future and no opinion pieces, but that seems rather boring, as Chill pointed out nicely.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
November 30 2011 10:54 GMT
#463
So why exactly stating the facts are incorrect or wrong? I mean opinions can be biased and completely wrong like "baaah Idra has gotten worse" which is maybe true maybe not, it depends where you look it from. But the fact that aside from the 3 mentioned players from EG and maybe Demuslim the rest aren't even remotely close to being on an even "decent" level. But I don't think this is new to anybody, because I'm sure the players themselves know that too. I think the team house is nice and all, but some people just aren't meant to compete on the highest level. Just look at the BW pros, they don't even have excuses because everyone practices 12 hours, so how come one guy has 35% win rate and the other has 65%? People should realize that not everyone is capable of being a top player even if every condition are given to him.
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Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
November 30 2011 11:34 GMT
#464
On November 29 2011 18:22 LastDance wrote:
Best SC2 photo ever:

[image loading]


Thanks for sharing your photos.


I agree best picture ever!! Could be like the cover picture of an album of some band!
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hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
November 30 2011 12:52 GMT
#465
On November 30 2011 06:01 Defacer wrote:
You know what, it bothers me that you feel like you have to apologize for having an opinion. There's a place for 'objective' journalism, but there is also a place for informed opinion pieces.

Yeah, that's kinda the point...

The general consensus among people here, including both EG and TL representatives, is that a staff-posted and featured front page news article is not the appropriate place for inflammatory opinionated. If he posted that tirade in the blogs section, very few people would care. The entire controversy was about how his subjective opinion was featured in a "news" piece.
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
November 30 2011 12:57 GMT
#466
does anyone else think that mlg orlando was better than mlg providence?
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ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
November 30 2011 14:04 GMT
#467
On November 30 2011 21:57 ThePlayer33 wrote:
does anyone else think that mlg orlando was better than mlg providence?


Personally, I would say Anaheim/Columbus were the better events, just in terms of the crowds.. Im terribly biased in this though, as active crowds make up alot of the experience for me, even when i'm watching it online
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
November 30 2011 14:14 GMT
#468
On November 30 2011 19:54 Malinor wrote:
I am also really not sure about this apology. You surely can apologize if you feel this write-up is not your best work (the no-name section is really not good), but to apologize to EG for your opinion is rather strange.
Well, maybe if TL wants to have only neutral news in the future and no opinion pieces, but that seems rather boring, as Chill pointed out nicely.

Moderate temperature new TL writer?
Dodge arrows
aesmith8
Profile Joined December 2010
United States22 Posts
November 30 2011 14:54 GMT
#469
I don't think Gatored gets enough credit. They say "losses to Gatored and dde when you live in a team house are hard to justify." I believe him beating Ganzi and Axslav both 2-0 should at least get him some recognition.
tFFMrPink
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany145 Posts
November 30 2011 15:25 GMT
#470
thanks to TL for great coverage,and thanks to everyone who made all this possible

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really looking forward to MLG in 2012 !
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ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
November 30 2011 15:58 GMT
#471
I uploaded this little gem from Providence.. Robert Simpson, Blizzard employee w. a Reaver reference and the Mommaship-joke :-)

The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
November 30 2011 17:27 GMT
#472
Thanks so much for the amazing write-up, TL! <3
-shArk-
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany150 Posts
November 30 2011 17:44 GMT
#473
Rofl at hallucinated Void Rays and Idras rage quit :D i missed that match
sOs - Rain - PartinG
xtruder
Profile Joined October 2011
Afghanistan135 Posts
November 30 2011 18:28 GMT
#474
Can someone tell me why Boxer vs Rain's 1-hour game won an award while Tod vs Happy Game 1 at Dreamhack was panned by the casters and the community for being a long and boring game? In both games, both players macro'd up and didn't attack or only attacked sporadically without any major commitments.

Aside from the author being an obvious fanboy of Boxer?
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
November 30 2011 19:05 GMT
#475
On November 30 2011 20:34 Mithriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 18:22 LastDance wrote:
Best SC2 photo ever:

[image loading]


Thanks for sharing your photos.


I agree best picture ever!! Could be like the cover picture of an album of some band!


Yeah I thought so too. That's pretty awesome. But unfortunately I only recognize 3 out of 5 people. Who is the leftmost guy and the smoking girl?
GoodRiot
Profile Joined September 2011
United States75 Posts
November 30 2011 19:07 GMT
#476
Haha MC's dance!
Redn3ck
Profile Joined November 2011
United States18 Posts
November 30 2011 19:07 GMT
#477
This whole post is dribble. Leenock being middle of the road....e-sports crumbling around you? This whole article was just bad....that stuff about eg? TL needs to look at what people are posting.
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Xalorian
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada433 Posts
November 30 2011 20:10 GMT
#478
I'm not sure why the fuck EG House is a bad thing just because EG players except the stars are in a slump recently. They have a lot of sponsors because of High personnaly players like InControL, IdrA, Demuslim and HuK, therefore they have the money to own an house, therefore the House is bringing them more publicity, therefore the house is bringing probably more sponsors.

If it's a good thing for them and if they are streaming more because of this, they will make themself an even bigger name because of it. If they get a bigger name, they get more followers and fan... and that's a great thing for the team, and for eSports.

So... why the fuck should we shit on them just because they have a team house? I don't get it.
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 20:12:17
November 30 2011 20:11 GMT
#479
On November 30 2011 13:51 ffadicted wrote:
Let's be completely honest here

HuK was produced by oGs, not EG by any stretch of the imagination, and he has only seemed to do worse since leaving the oGs house.
PuMa was pretty much produced by TSL and bought by EG
Neither of them has ever really lived in the EG NA house such that you can say they've improved their play for it
The peak of idra's sc2 career was in his time in korea, he isn't bad by any stretch of the imagination, but it's hard to deny he has gotten worse relative to top players since he moved to the team house (read: moved out of korea)
The house has not helped anyone else, every other EG member has produced 0 results despite being there for quite a while
The house obviously costs a TON of money to upkeep, while producing basically nothing better in comparison to if it wasn't there

I really commend EG for trying, but after this long it's not shocking that people have started to realize it was a bad business decision, I can't help but agree with this article

Haven't they only had their house for a month or two now? Pretty sure IdrA's won several international tourneys since then, Puma's placed highly, and HuK's done his share of winning too. Since HuK and Puma have spent several weeks each in the EG house, nothing you said is really that fair.

Yeah, EG acquired played they didn't develop, but when they started their acquisitions they didn't even have a house, a presence in Korea, or any semblance of the things that breed winners. And when you say the house hasn't helped them win any more than they did since they moved or joined EG, what's to say it hasn't helped them maintain their skill level? All three of them are still beating Koreans regularly despite the fact that said Koreans live in pro-houses, so from what I see they're keeping up at the very least which is a lot more than everyone else. Nani is the only relevant player on coL now, top EU players like Sjow, Whitera, etc. haven't won anything in a long time, TL's players are struggling to make top 8 in tourneys, and so on.

Objectively speaking, EG has been the most successful foreign team by a pretty significant margin for a while now so it's pretty confusing that they're the center of criticism.
gk_ender
Profile Joined October 2008
United States717 Posts
November 30 2011 20:21 GMT
#480
[image loading]

Hey jsut a heads up, no biggy, but this picture is actually from OMGYUMYUM.com. I'd know because thats me in the picture with gatored lol Not angry or petty, we would just appreciate the attention
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