EPTApart from that, amazing article.
[MLG] Providence - Finale - Page 2
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7798 Posts
Apart from that, amazing article. | ||
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Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
With the way the brackets and seedings were set up for MLG, it's not a very good tournament to judge who the best player in the tournament was off placing aside from leenock who came from the open bracket and had a very tough road. Idra won 1 series out of 3 and he placed 8th. Ret went 0-2 and placed 15th just to put it into perspective. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10716 Posts
On November 28 2011 16:53 Sadistx wrote: I'm sad that you guys didn't mention this guy, who, while not winning Providence, did at 15 years of age, come 24th in the most stacked MLG to date. + Show Spoiler + DC Nerd Baller, vileIllusion ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PgaFx.jpg) Also, wtf, is this a joke? None of these results are a surprise, except maybe Forbs breaking out. Everyone else who won was pretty much already the favorite, if you follow the scene semi-closely. Do not agree at all. And most of them aren't just top ladder either, they are on sponsored teams too, so "rise of the nonames" is quite inappropriate. The problem is that most of these "names" have names for other reasons than their play... | ||
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Grend
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
The Big Upsets There were a lot of big wins that no one saw coming, and went uncasted on the main streams. A lot of these upsets were in the open bracket, showing that in this time of Starcraft, it may be true that no one is safe. Gatored 2 – 0 GanZi HerO 2 – 1 Puzzle Major 2 – 1 Artist GanZi 2 – 0 Puzzle Oz 2 – 1 GanZi MC 2 – 1 MVP PuMa 2 – 0 LosirA PuMa 2 – 1 Bomber Leenock 2 – 1 MMA NaNiwa 2 – 1 NesTea Going into the tournament, I don't think that many people would have predicted some of these close results. In a lot of ways, Providence made the “unbeatable” players look pretty beatable. Rise of the "No Names" If you hunt your way through the open bracket results, there are a lot of really weird things to see; results that imply the skill gap between top ladder players and lower tier professional players may be closing. The question of what it really means to be a pro gamer is getting less obvious, as more and more "no name" players snipe out top dogs to get their names out there. State 2 – 1 iNcontroL HeavOnEarth 2 – 1 Agh Gatored 2 – 0 Axslav sycknesS 2 – 0 StrifeCro Forbs 2 – 1 Drewbie Forbs 2 – 1 Spades Ostojiy 2 – 0 Destiny dde 2 – 0 Machine Binski 2 – 0 Tyler RuFF13 2 – 1 StrifeCro Is the skill gap closing? Or was this just a bad tournament for the bigger name players that are listed above? TL articles are usually gold, but this section is one of the most inaccurate ones I've ever read. Most of these 'big upsets' are not, and some of them aren't even upsets at all. I don't even know what to say about calling dde an unknown. | ||
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decerto
244 Posts
On November 28 2011 16:53 Sadistx wrote: I'm sad that you guys didn't mention this guy, who, while not winning Providence, did at 15 years of age, come 24th in the most stacked MLG to date. + Show Spoiler + DC Nerd Baller, vileIllusion Also, wtf, is this a joke? None of these results are a surprise, except maybe Forbs breaking out. Everyone else who won was pretty much already the favorite, if you follow the scene semi-closely. Do not agree at all. And most of them aren't just top ladder either, they are on sponsored teams too, so "rise of the nonames" is quite inappropriate. Have to agree, only upsets there are binski, ruff13 and forbs, all the rest were the favourites and not nonames maybe if you know little to nothing about the NA scene but even still dde, ostojiy, state and gatored are widely known at this stage. The after party pics were amazing btw more of that style please! | ||
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MattO1337
United States203 Posts
On November 28 2011 16:39 heyoka wrote: Should Team Evil Geniuses Have Established a North American Team House? I'll be honest guys, I'm really afraid of getting flamed for this, but it's something that's concerned me for long enough that I'm just going to say it. EG did really badly, again, and I can't help but feel that the team house is not paying for itself. Of course when you go to EG's coverage of the event, they point to having "solid results overall," but in reality, it's only ever their golden three that do well. Thanks to Idra, Huk, and Puma, EG always manages to scrape together good PR, but the results of their other players are starting to get down right disturbing: iNcontroL lost to State and Strifecro, StrifeCro lost to syckness and RuFF13, Lzgamer lost to Catz and exMaSter. Only Machine and Axslav's results are remotely explainable, with losses to Nestea, dde, Gatored, and Violet. Even with those two players though, losses to Gatored and dde when you live in a team house are hard to justify. To be honest, if they want to justify having a team house, they need to get their shit together. While Puma and Idra seem to be practicing correctly, I can't shake the feeling that they would do well regardless of where they were living. EG needs to figure out what those two are doing right, and have everyone try to emulate it to avoid such embarrassing results. Having a team house in North America established a wonderful precedent, now they just need the results to match. I've also been questioning this, in fact I asked Axslav for a replay pack of EG's in house games. He said something of the lines that no such pack exists, because EG doesn't play in-house practice games vs each other. He also mentioned that even if such replay pack existed, EG would not share it (which made me sad  . I really hope someone from EG can answer if this is true and also explain why they don't play in-house games against each other. | ||
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pt
United States813 Posts
where can i find huk's jacket? | ||
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juked
United States691 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Grend
1600 Posts
On November 28 2011 17:34 MattO1337 wrote: I've also been questioning this, in fact I asked Axslav for a replay pack of EG's in house games. He said something of the lines that no such pack exists, because EG doesn't play in-house practice games vs each other. He also mentioned that even if such replay pack existed, EG would not share it (which made me sad . I really hope someone from EG can answer if this is true and also explain why they don't play in-house games against each other.Haha if they dont do inhouse practice then whats the point. thats the whole reason fir having a team house! | ||
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Ruscour
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and fishuu always draws the most amazing stuff. | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On November 28 2011 17:41 Grend wrote: Haha if they dont do inhouse practice then whats the point. thats the whole reason fir having a team house! It's not though. They do inhouse practice but not like Korean teams where they do team ranking matches each day. Axslav says they mostly do their own thing, I know from his stream that Axslav practices with Machine a ton and IdrA sometimes. The main point of a teamhouse is because you have people sitting next to you that constantly motivate you to play more when previously you wouldn't have. There is no way in hell the EG players would be playing a minimum of 8 hours a day if they were still living by themselves. | ||
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Inky87
United States533 Posts
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
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Frankon
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On November 28 2011 17:37 Itsmedudeman wrote: The "team house" doesn't matter as much as the practice partners do. A lot of people practice from their homes in korea including MVP and Nestea, but these guys have like 50 top level players to practice with. Who are you gonna practice with in NA? There's probably only a handful that can simulate the skill level of top level players, and even players of code A standards are far and few in between. Team house is much more than practice partners. The central part of the team house is a coach - something that i never heard the EG had in their establishment. The coach that creates personal training schedules - get appropriate practice partners that would force the player to work on his bad points, supervise its enforcement, manages the time of players, prepares strategies for the upcoming matches (heck that won't work with most western tournaments but lets leave it here). We never heard anything about such a person in both the EG and the Swedish pro houses.. Therefore from now on EG Team house should be called - EG Players Dorm. (cause that what it is essentially) | ||
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MattO1337
United States203 Posts
On November 28 2011 17:54 TBone- wrote: Why didn't vVv get any love? They had to of had 15 people at the event, and whenever one of their players would play, they would have around 6 of them behind them cheering them on and supporting them. Probably because I, and I assume everyone else, has no idea about what kind of results they had? | ||
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Simple
United States801 Posts
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bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
i always thought idra's gg timing is the exact opposite of fantasy's gg timing? | ||
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