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On November 25 2011 08:27 avilo wrote:
Great that girls/julia are getting exposure...but like many I am wondering...where are the vile illusion interviews huh? It's fine to promote girl gaming, but when you see a random diamond gamer getting all of this attention solely because she is a girl (which is basically what this is) you have to wonder...
Basically, if julia were a random guy diamond do you think she would be getting all this attention? Nope.
I'm all for girl SC2 gamers, but how about jumping on the interview/media bandwagon when you get a very successful masters/GM girl that does something worthy of getting all this attention or competes in some huge event (like the divina tournament thing), not just doing it because the girl happens to obviously be beautiful...which is basically the only reason julia is getting all this attention...
so yeah...WHERE ARE THE VILE ILLUSION INTERVIEWS HUH? I'm just echoing desrow on this, as well as others i'm sure. There are a lot of huge fucking open bracket heroes and others that are way more deserving of interviews/all of this attention...
Can't be happy for the girl while being sad for Illusion?
What about the girls that maybe saw Julia on the main stage and might be a bit more competitive than before? There are obviously a lot of girls that are better then Julia too but I think everyone wins. (even Illusion because everyone is defending his awesome open bracket wins which would be nice to watch right now)
Feel bad for Illusion (maybe someone WILL interview the guy) but for Julia I still say it was an awesome experience and she got to talk about it.
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Great interview. Great as always Julia/Jacq 
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On November 25 2011 08:27 avilo wrote:
Great that girls/julia are getting exposure...but like many I am wondering...where are the vile illusion interviews huh? It's fine to promote girl gaming, but when you see a random diamond gamer getting all of this attention solely because she is a girl (which is basically what this is) you have to wonder...
Basically, if julia were a random guy diamond do you think she would be getting all this attention? Nope.
I'm all for girl SC2 gamers, but how about jumping on the interview/media bandwagon when you get a very successful masters/GM girl that does something worthy of getting all this attention or competes in some huge event (like the divina tournament thing), not just doing it because the girl happens to obviously be beautiful...which is basically the only reason julia is getting all this attention...
so yeah...WHERE ARE THE VILE ILLUSION INTERVIEWS HUH? I'm just echoing desrow on this, as well as others i'm sure. There are a lot of huge fucking open bracket heroes and others that are way more deserving of interviews/all of this attention...
remarkably I agree with avilo, where are the illusion interviews, where are the artist interviews, where are the state interviews, had no idea who all three of them were, and they were all impressive with how far they got
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Made an account to post this, and I'm sorry if this sounds rude, but I have to get my opinion out.
All this is telling me to do to succeed as a girl gamer in e-sports is put a tank top on, get a webcam, find some pro friends and stream.
It doesn't matter what league I am or how skilled I am as long as I get all the boy's attention. Again I mean no offense to julia, but she doesn't exactly have a day9 personality. I've seen her stream, and she's actually pretty boring. The only excitement comes from one of her friends talking about sex and julia giggling about it.
She's not funny. She's not clever. She's not original. She's a girl streaming in a tank top. There's plenty of them on league already if you all are so desperate for them. Ffs, on halloween a viewer asked julia to stand up and show her skirt and she did. Seriously? How are girl gamers supposed to be taken seriously as a gamer when they do things like this? And no, before you start arguing about the skirt, I can promise you, she didn't stand up so the viewers could enjoy the skirt's fine design.
Her being on the main stage is a joke and makes me shy away from e sports. People are trying to make SC2 a main stream thing. Being shown on espn but if things like this continue i don't think that'll ever happen. Maybe the lakers will accept me if I can give them enough publicity!
Oh, and her dedication? She has 14 games played this season. Please.
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On November 25 2011 08:59 Coramoor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:27 avilo wrote:
Great that girls/julia are getting exposure...but like many I am wondering...where are the vile illusion interviews huh? It's fine to promote girl gaming, but when you see a random diamond gamer getting all of this attention solely because she is a girl (which is basically what this is) you have to wonder...
Basically, if julia were a random guy diamond do you think she would be getting all this attention? Nope.
I'm all for girl SC2 gamers, but how about jumping on the interview/media bandwagon when you get a very successful masters/GM girl that does something worthy of getting all this attention or competes in some huge event (like the divina tournament thing), not just doing it because the girl happens to obviously be beautiful...which is basically the only reason julia is getting all this attention...
so yeah...WHERE ARE THE VILE ILLUSION INTERVIEWS HUH? I'm just echoing desrow on this, as well as others i'm sure. There are a lot of huge fucking open bracket heroes and others that are way more deserving of interviews/all of this attention...
remarkably I agree with avilo, where are the illusion interviews, where are the artist interviews, where are the state interviews, had no idea who all three of them were, and they were all impressive with how far they got
yes she is getting all the attention because she is a girl. so what? that's just how it is. people who are complaining of it are just jelly.
Michelle Wie got so much attention just because she was female even though there are a lot of way more accomplished male golfers that get less attention. it's just how it is
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On November 25 2011 08:27 avilo wrote:
Great that girls/julia are getting exposure...but like many I am wondering...where are the vile illusion interviews huh? It's fine to promote girl gaming, but when you see a random diamond gamer getting all of this attention solely because she is a girl (which is basically what this is) you have to wonder...
Basically, if julia were a random guy diamond do you think she would be getting all this attention? Nope.
I'm all for girl SC2 gamers, but how about jumping on the interview/media bandwagon when you get a very successful masters/GM girl that does something worthy of getting all this attention or competes in some huge event (like the divina tournament thing), not just doing it because the girl happens to obviously be beautiful...which is basically the only reason julia is getting all this attention...
so yeah...WHERE ARE THE VILE ILLUSION INTERVIEWS HUH? I'm just echoing desrow on this, as well as others i'm sure. There are a lot of huge fucking open bracket heroes and others that are way more deserving of interviews/all of this attention...
How do you people still not get it? Please just listen so that we can stop it with the "y u no give me/my teammate/my favorite player dis attentionz? /sadface"
Julia is getting this attention for a reason. She's a female gamer, so yes, that is obviously the biggest point in her favour, I do agree with that. However, this is only because there's currently a huge lack of recognition for female gamers in the eSports industry overall. These organisations want to promote and encourage more female gamers to compete in their tournaments and to participate with the community in general. Releasing some video interviews and putting her on the main stage (when there was no other "pro" players even available to play) is an extremely simple thing to do which takes little effort or prior organisation and yields and extremely positive outcome (so I don't see the big deal about that).
Second reason, she is a very likeable person that is mature and can talk in front of a camera confidently without acting immature/rude or just plain weird (read: Naniwa). In my opinion it's an easy decision for the various media outlets who attend these events to interview someone like Julia. Everybody wins; her, her team, and the media personalities interviewing her. I think you see what I am getting at here... they get a great interview out of her/her story.
vileIllusion did great at this one tournament. Unfortunately it's just a fact that this scene is currently dominated by male players and if you want to get the attention of everyone, you better do something absolutely remarkable to stand out from the rest. Nobody is saying what vileIllusion did in the open-bracket wasn't great, because it was. Just look at the likes of Haypro though, in my opinion he did even more to warrant a barrage of interviews and media coverage of his performance that weekend but yet, nothing (now go look at his previous track record of being interviewed, kennigit even admitted on sotg it's not great).
That's all I am going to contribute to this topic. I feel that there's way too much negativity and even sexism in some cases eminating from our community just because they personally don't give a shit about female gaming and are being completely and utterly biased toward particular players or teams.
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i remember playing her when i was diamond
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Promoting female gaming is great, but sponsor females because of their SKILL. If they have such a great "personality", make them a caster or an interviewer...
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On November 25 2011 09:05 MasterKush wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:27 avilo wrote:
Great that girls/julia are getting exposure...but like many I am wondering...where are the vile illusion interviews huh? It's fine to promote girl gaming, but when you see a random diamond gamer getting all of this attention solely because she is a girl (which is basically what this is) you have to wonder...
Basically, if julia were a random guy diamond do you think she would be getting all this attention? Nope.
I'm all for girl SC2 gamers, but how about jumping on the interview/media bandwagon when you get a very successful masters/GM girl that does something worthy of getting all this attention or competes in some huge event (like the divina tournament thing), not just doing it because the girl happens to obviously be beautiful...which is basically the only reason julia is getting all this attention...
so yeah...WHERE ARE THE VILE ILLUSION INTERVIEWS HUH? I'm just echoing desrow on this, as well as others i'm sure. There are a lot of huge fucking open bracket heroes and others that are way more deserving of interviews/all of this attention...
How do you people still not get it? Please just listen so that we can stop it with the "y u no give me/my teammate/my favorite player dis attentionz? /sadface" Julia is getting this attention for a reason. She's a female gamer, so yes, that is obviously the biggest point in her favour, I do agree with that. However, this is only because there's currently a huge lack of recognition for female gamers in the eSports industry overall. These organisations want to promote and encourage more female gamers to compete in their tournaments and to participate with the community in general. Releasing some video interviews and putting her on the main stage (when there was no other "pro" players even available to play) is an extremely simple thing to do which takes little effort or prior organisation and yields and extremely positive outcome (so I don't see the big deal about that). Second reason, she is a very likeable person that is mature and can talk in front of a camera confidently without acting immature/rude or just plain weird (read: Naniwa). In my opinion it's an easy decision for the various media outlets who attend these events to interview someone like Julia. Everybody wins; her, her team, and the media personalities interviewing her. I think you see what I am getting at here... they get a great interview out of her/her story.vileIllusion did great at this one tournament. Unfortunately it's just a fact that this scene is currently dominated by male players and if you want to get the attention of everyone, you better do something absolutely remarkable to stand out from the rest. Nobody is saying what vileIllusion did in the open-bracket wasn't great, because it was. Just look at the likes of Haypro though, in my opinion he did even more to warrant a barrage of interviews and media coverage of his performance that weekend but yet, nothing? That's all I am going to contribute to this topic. I feel that there's way too much negativity and even sexism in some cases eminating from our community just because they personally don't give a shit about female gaming.
i think you're the one being sexist, it's not sexist to say well she's only in diamond so therefore she's not worth interviewing or being on checksix or w/e, if you replace aulij with nikoris... you'd see what i mean
it is sexist to be like she's an attractive girl and they want to push female gaming so they chose the first attractive girl they could find who got some recognition and bam here we are, i have plenty of respect for her, just I find checksix and some of the interviewing to be shady
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On November 25 2011 09:05 MasterKush wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:27 avilo wrote:
Great that girls/julia are getting exposure...but like many I am wondering...where are the vile illusion interviews huh? It's fine to promote girl gaming, but when you see a random diamond gamer getting all of this attention solely because she is a girl (which is basically what this is) you have to wonder...
Basically, if julia were a random guy diamond do you think she would be getting all this attention? Nope.
I'm all for girl SC2 gamers, but how about jumping on the interview/media bandwagon when you get a very successful masters/GM girl that does something worthy of getting all this attention or competes in some huge event (like the divina tournament thing), not just doing it because the girl happens to obviously be beautiful...which is basically the only reason julia is getting all this attention...
so yeah...WHERE ARE THE VILE ILLUSION INTERVIEWS HUH? I'm just echoing desrow on this, as well as others i'm sure. There are a lot of huge fucking open bracket heroes and others that are way more deserving of interviews/all of this attention...
How do you people still not get it? Please just listen so that we can stop it with the "y u no give me/my teammate/my favorite player dis attentionz? /sadface" Julia is getting this attention for a reason. She's a female gamer, so yes, that is obviously the biggest point in her favour, I do agree with that. However, this is only because there's currently a huge lack of recognition for female gamers in the eSports industry overall. These organisations want to promote and encourage more female gamers to compete in their tournaments and to participate with the community in general. Releasing some video interviews and putting her on the main stage (when there was no other "pro" players even available to play) is an extremely simple thing to do which takes little effort or prior organisation and yields and extremely positive outcome (so I don't see the big deal about that). Second reason, she is a very likeable person that is mature and can talk in front of a camera confidently without acting immature/rude or just plain weird (read: Naniwa). In my opinion it's an easy decision for the various media outlets who attend these events to interview someone like Julia. Everybody wins; her, her team, and the media personalities interviewing her. I think you see what I am getting at here... they get a great interview out of her/her story.vileIllusion did great at this one tournament. Unfortunately it's just a fact that this scene is currently dominated by male players and if you want to get the attention of everyone, you better do something absolutely remarkable to stand out from the rest. Nobody is saying what vileIllusion did in the open-bracket wasn't great, because it was. Just look at the likes of Haypro though, in my opinion he did even more to warrant a barrage of interviews and media coverage of his performance that weekend but yet, nothing (now go look at his previous track record of being interviewed, kennigit even admitted on sotg it's not great). That's all I am going to contribute to this topic. I feel that there's way too much negativity and even sexism in some cases eminating from our community just because they personally don't give a shit about female gaming and are being completely and utterly biased toward particular players or teams.
You said it much better than I did.
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On November 25 2011 08:09 monx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 18:39 AlexCMoi wrote:
iNcontroL wishes he was good at the game he dedicated his life. come on Alex. Cheapshots like this, really?
Cheap shot? Did you see what he said randomly to my post before I said anything Monx? LoL
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On November 25 2011 09:13 Coramoor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 09:05 MasterKush wrote:On November 25 2011 08:27 avilo wrote:
Great that girls/julia are getting exposure...but like many I am wondering...where are the vile illusion interviews huh? It's fine to promote girl gaming, but when you see a random diamond gamer getting all of this attention solely because she is a girl (which is basically what this is) you have to wonder...
Basically, if julia were a random guy diamond do you think she would be getting all this attention? Nope.
I'm all for girl SC2 gamers, but how about jumping on the interview/media bandwagon when you get a very successful masters/GM girl that does something worthy of getting all this attention or competes in some huge event (like the divina tournament thing), not just doing it because the girl happens to obviously be beautiful...which is basically the only reason julia is getting all this attention...
so yeah...WHERE ARE THE VILE ILLUSION INTERVIEWS HUH? I'm just echoing desrow on this, as well as others i'm sure. There are a lot of huge fucking open bracket heroes and others that are way more deserving of interviews/all of this attention...
How do you people still not get it? Please just listen so that we can stop it with the "y u no give me/my teammate/my favorite player dis attentionz? /sadface" Julia is getting this attention for a reason. She's a female gamer, so yes, that is obviously the biggest point in her favour, I do agree with that. However, this is only because there's currently a huge lack of recognition for female gamers in the eSports industry overall. These organisations want to promote and encourage more female gamers to compete in their tournaments and to participate with the community in general. Releasing some video interviews and putting her on the main stage (when there was no other "pro" players even available to play) is an extremely simple thing to do which takes little effort or prior organisation and yields and extremely positive outcome (so I don't see the big deal about that). Second reason, she is a very likeable person that is mature and can talk in front of a camera confidently without acting immature/rude or just plain weird (read: Naniwa). In my opinion it's an easy decision for the various media outlets who attend these events to interview someone like Julia. Everybody wins; her, her team, and the media personalities interviewing her. I think you see what I am getting at here... they get a great interview out of her/her story.vileIllusion did great at this one tournament. Unfortunately it's just a fact that this scene is currently dominated by male players and if you want to get the attention of everyone, you better do something absolutely remarkable to stand out from the rest. Nobody is saying what vileIllusion did in the open-bracket wasn't great, because it was. Just look at the likes of Haypro though, in my opinion he did even more to warrant a barrage of interviews and media coverage of his performance that weekend but yet, nothing? That's all I am going to contribute to this topic. I feel that there's way too much negativity and even sexism in some cases eminating from our community just because they personally don't give a shit about female gaming. i think you're the one being sexist, it's not sexist to say well she's only in diamond so therefore she's not worth interviewing or being on checksix or w/e, if you replace aulij with nikoris... you'd see what i mean it is sexist to be like she's an attractive girl and they want to push female gaming so they chose the first attractive girl they could find who got some recognition and bam here we are, i have plenty of respect for her, just I find checksix and some of the interviewing to be shady
I'm being sexist by agreeing with the decision of MLG & the other organisations to give this girl some spotlight? Jeez, I'm so sorry about that. As I said, It would of been great to see interviews with Illusion & Haypro but that doesn't mean to say i'll come on here and shit over Julia just because there wasn't. That's essentially what people are doing, they think just because Julia got interviewed that other people lost out on the opportunity. Big assumption to make honestly.
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On November 25 2011 08:22 Utinni wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 07:51 iNcontroL wrote:what? Everyone wishes they were good at the game they dedicated their life to o_O Not everyone wishes they had a vagina. That would be an improvement to alexcmoi though.. so I can see his viewpoint Fucking shitty that you have to live in that shitty house with your shitty friends playing this shitty game... shitty life bro! Woops typo, replace shitty with fantastical. alex is a silly gent.
Never said it wasnt nice, just talked about his skills after his stupid answer to my post. Anyone with some talents would be way better in skills from playing, watching and living in the EG house.
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Good god... way too many people quoted second post. Now it doesn't even matter that it's not in his post because you've all not only preserved it but splattered it all over the first few pages. Really classy forum we got here.
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On November 24 2011 18:32 AlexCMoi wrote:
Why the hell there is a thread and a interview about her ? She's not good at all and she didn't do anything special in the games vs loisira, I don't see why would you give any attention to a diamond player. I wish I was a girl so I could make money out of stupid geeks cheering for girls playing starcraft even if she can't play. Btw, nice marketing for checksix... like they care about her skills lol.
As much of a dick as you sound in this post I can't help but to sort of agree with you. At the end of the day they can spend their money however they want but I mean really? Also, I can't help thinking that if 90percent of 'gamers' didn't drool every time a female was around shit like this wouldn't happen.
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(for those who talk about how I played only one game here is my last season)
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It's hard being a female gamer. I constantley get trashed on from other players and it kind of sucks. I have been only playing since last season and that's why I don't do 1v1s anyone because I didn't know they reset and I was ultra sad. I mainly do custom 1v1s and so on.
add me and lets play :D
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I'll let you in on a secret guys: It's ok to like girls.
On the other hand, I can imagine if an attractive guy was really good at some kind of (solo) dancing, and joined a huge class with 99% women in it, he'd probably get just as much fawning + nagging along the lines of "he's just here to get the attention". So yeah. Not that suprising.
Love the lisp <3
edit: post above me smells like serious nerdbait.
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On November 25 2011 16:26 Monsen wrote:I'll let you in on a secret guys: It's ok to like girls. On the other hand, I can imagine if an attractive guy was really good at some kind of (solo) dancing, and joined a huge class with 99% women in it, he'd probably get just as much fawning + nagging along the lines of "he's just here to get the attention". So yeah. Not that suprising. Love the lisp <3 edit: post above me smells like serious nerdbait.
Just read that and that's weird. I look like all my facebook photos, I am not even wearing any makeup in that photo. I am 17 I don't run around flirting with guys on sc2. I am here to game not for romance.
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So what about the diamond players who were guys and got stomped in the open bracket just like everyone else?
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On November 25 2011 16:33 Beauty346 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 16:26 Monsen wrote:I'll let you in on a secret guys: It's ok to like girls. On the other hand, I can imagine if an attractive guy was really good at some kind of (solo) dancing, and joined a huge class with 99% women in it, he'd probably get just as much fawning + nagging along the lines of "he's just here to get the attention". So yeah. Not that suprising. Love the lisp <3 edit: post above me smells like serious nerdbait. Just read that and that's weird. I look like all my facebook photos, I am not even wearing any makeup in that photo. I am 17 I don't run around flirting with guys on sc2. I am here to game not for romance.
No offense intended. I'm just stating what's obvious to me-
5 Posts, very attractive picture (I can understand it's supposed to be proof), nickname "beauty" and last but definetly not least, 34b on the sign- I assume that's your cupsize??? Why bother with all that just to get games?
Again, no offense to you, but you surely see why it would smell fishy (no pun intended, hah).
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