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Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
November 23 2011 19:17 GMT
#241
I don't get the amount of bashing she is getting.

I think it's awesome we see more girls in Starcraft 2.

Best of luck to her in the future, hope we get more girls like her
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
Divergence
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada363 Posts
November 24 2011 01:19 GMT
#242
On November 23 2011 17:46 NEgroidZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 15:54 Divergence wrote:
On November 23 2011 15:29 NEgroidZerg wrote:
All I'm gonna say is that if she was 100 pounds heavier this interview would have never happened. Which is fucked up.


Not really...

Replace your statement with "100 APM slower" to see what I mean. Not everyone is equal.

What I'm trying to get at is we, as human beings, are interested in each other for many reasons. Some are interested in attractive female gamers. Is there a problem with that? We have the freedom to choose.

Edit: I should clarify and say that we should have freedom of choice. Of course some governments disagree.


Because MLG isn't a beauty contest it's a skill contest.


The community has the right to interview anyone they want to. Why does it need to have anything to do with skill? If people don't consider the interview worthwhile it won't be watched. But here we are now at 13 pages so this interview is obviously interesting enough for us.
KeyHunt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States218 Posts
November 24 2011 03:07 GMT
#243
Despite what some may think, when we approached Julia we did so because she had all the same characteristics as all the other players we look at picking up..male or female. We couldn't be more happy with how she performed and how the community sites have supported her. It's not our aim to become a white knight for females in gaming, they were around way before CheckSix decided to support one. We just know that Julia is a very interesting, dedicated and worthwhile player that deserves support..and there are MANY more out there just like her that could use this type of attention as well.

Thanks again to all the media and fans again for all the kind words this past weekend.
DeadCell
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada256 Posts
November 24 2011 05:34 GMT
#244
On November 24 2011 12:07 KeyHunt wrote:
We just know that Julia is a very interesting, dedicated and worthwhile player that deserves support..and there are MANY more out there just like her that could use this type of attention as well.

Thanks again to all the media and fans again for all the kind words this past weekend.


I like how more women are becoming invovled in e-sports, particularly starcraft 2. Zowie Divina featured female gamers who played at a master level which is impressive. DaSakura has beaten TT1, and Drewbie on the ladder; IMPRESSIVE.

The reason I believe people are upset, is because it's the case of a diamond level player being picked up by a professional team when there is countless numbers of master level players who obviously are just as "dedicated and worthwhile that deserve support" as well. The reason everyone goes gets excited, is the recent uprising of female players in the starcraft 2 scene. I believe if you had a least signed a master level player people wouldn't be so edgy.

Why not ask Flo or DaSakura to sign??


If it comes down to you or them, send flowers.
KeyHunt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 05:44:18
November 24 2011 05:43 GMT
#245
On November 24 2011 14:34 DeadCell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 12:07 KeyHunt wrote:
We just know that Julia is a very interesting, dedicated and worthwhile player that deserves support..and there are MANY more out there just like her that could use this type of attention as well.

Thanks again to all the media and fans again for all the kind words this past weekend.


I like how more women are becoming invovled in e-sports, particularly starcraft 2. Zowie Divina featured female gamers who played at a master level which is impressive. DaSakura has beaten TT1, and Drewbie on the ladder; IMPRESSIVE.

The reason I believe people are upset, is because it's the case of a diamond level player being picked up by a professional team when there is countless numbers of master level players who obviously are just as "dedicated and worthwhile that deserve support" as well. The reason everyone goes gets excited, is the recent uprising of female players in the starcraft 2 scene. I believe if you had a least signed a master level player people wouldn't be so edgy.

Why not ask Flo or DaSakura to sign??




Maybe we tried to talk to them/sign them?

We didn't. But most have not actually bothered to ask, just immediately jump to the worst conclusions. Once again, our answer is we were not actively seeking JUST a female Starcraft player. We took a look at Julia because she was good friends with a few of our members, we saw the exposure for her, watched her play for a few weeks and decided it was the right thing to do. It wasn't like we sat down, decided to get a female Starcraft player, did research and decided on Julia. Julia was and is the right player for us, and we are happy with the decision. Others might not, but we believe in her dedication.
lafldil
Profile Joined July 2011
United States11 Posts
November 24 2011 05:54 GMT
#246
key, the reason why so many people are upset is because in reality, she's just another na diamond player. did you really sponsor her because she is dedicated? think of all the gm players that are dedicated and practice just as hard. or even MASTERS players.

I think females in e-sports need to stop being so babied. there's nothing stopping us from being as good as the boys, so why are our standards so low? is there any male diamonds being sponsored for their dedication? if there is, holy shit, my post just got shat on and I have nothing to argue about!
DeadCell
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 06:01:39
November 24 2011 06:01 GMT
#247


I'm in now way denying her dedication, obviously flying to MLG to be apart of a starcraft event when you live in Vancouver (where I live as well) is no small feat. Do not portray me as a someone on the offensive, judging Checksix based on your newly acquired team mate. I am merely an observer. I know some would hate the news regardless because they see a pretty face who managed to join a pro team when they've spent so much of their time trying to do the same. How many people dream of being a stacraft 2 professional player? Especially now that so many events have unfolded in comparison to brood war. More and more women are becoming signed players. I attempted to justify a reason as to why so many people aren't so happy about these recent changes, rather than typing "HATERS GONNA HATE"


If it comes down to you or them, send flowers.
KeyHunt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States218 Posts
November 24 2011 06:11 GMT
#248
On November 24 2011 14:54 lafldil wrote:
key, the reason why so many people are upset is because in reality, she's just another na diamond player. did you really sponsor her because she is dedicated? think of all the gm players that are dedicated and practice just as hard. or even MASTERS players.

I think females in e-sports need to stop being so babied. there's nothing stopping us from being as good as the boys, so why are our standards so low? is there any male diamonds being sponsored for their dedication? if there is, holy shit, my post just got shat on and I have nothing to argue about!


That is not the reality of how this community works. When a team picks up a player, we do not just look at their skill..or their placement in a league. No one does. Everyone looks at various criteria. Marketability, stability, dedication, exposure and also play. You think Quantic picked up Destiny purely because of his play? Not likely. Or EG is keeping InControl because his amazing performances as of late? No. All of which are good players, but that is not the sole..sometimes not even the main purpose for them being on a their teams.

So, if a diamond player shows the kind of dedication, stream numbers, marketability and exposure that Julia does we will be more than happy to consider him/her for the team..and I am sure many others would as well.


On November 24 2011 15:01 DeadCell wrote:


I'm in now way denying her dedication, obviously flying to MLG to be apart of a starcraft event when you live in Vancouver (where I live as well) is no small feat. Do not portray me as a someone on the offensive, judging Checksix based on your newly acquired team mate. I am merely an observer. I know some would hate the news regardless because they see a pretty face who managed to join a pro team when they've spent so much of their time trying to do the same. How many people dream of being a stacraft 2 professional player? Especially now that so many events have unfolded in comparison to brood war. More and more women are becoming signed players. I attempted to justify a reason as to why so many people aren't so happy about these recent changes, rather than typing "HATERS GONNA HATE"




I understand; and in no way was jumping on your case. However, I think people that bring up these points deserve to hear an explanation maybe to better understand our position and how things in actuality work.
lafldil
Profile Joined July 2011
United States11 Posts
November 24 2011 06:14 GMT
#249
ah, marketability. I see what you're saying now. that's all my post was about: an explanation, and you've given the community one. thanks
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
November 24 2011 06:14 GMT
#250
On November 24 2011 14:54 lafldil wrote:
key, the reason why so many people are upset is because in reality, she's just another na diamond player. did you really sponsor her because she is dedicated? think of all the gm players that are dedicated and practice just as hard. or even MASTERS players.

I think females in e-sports need to stop being so babied. there's nothing stopping us from being as good as the boys, so why are our standards so low? is there any male diamonds being sponsored for their dedication? if there is, holy shit, my post just got shat on and I have nothing to argue about!

she got picked up because she gets attention. teams need money. money comes from attention. how hard is this to figure out
get rich or die mining
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KeyHunt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States218 Posts
November 24 2011 06:17 GMT
#251
On November 24 2011 15:14 lafldil wrote:
ah, marketability. I see what you're saying now. that's all my post was about: an explanation, and you've given the community one. thanks


I think you missed the point. But OK lol.
reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
November 24 2011 08:19 GMT
#252
Glad to see Julia getting a lot of attention, i've been following her stream for a little while now (month or two), and she's a really talented player who is looking to improve a lot.

If she sticks with it, she definitely has a bright future, and i loved the interview
moose...indian
Sair
Profile Joined January 2011
United States23 Posts
November 24 2011 09:05 GMT
#253
I think people are getting way to caught up in Losira's cuteness here. Need to calm down and actually look at the skill of the matches, goddamn. Games can't be won on looks alone people.
NEgroidZerg
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States244 Posts
November 24 2011 09:19 GMT
#254
On November 24 2011 10:19 Divergence wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 17:46 NEgroidZerg wrote:
On November 23 2011 15:54 Divergence wrote:
On November 23 2011 15:29 NEgroidZerg wrote:
All I'm gonna say is that if she was 100 pounds heavier this interview would have never happened. Which is fucked up.


Not really...

Replace your statement with "100 APM slower" to see what I mean. Not everyone is equal.

What I'm trying to get at is we, as human beings, are interested in each other for many reasons. Some are interested in attractive female gamers. Is there a problem with that? We have the freedom to choose.

Edit: I should clarify and say that we should have freedom of choice. Of course some governments disagree.


Because MLG isn't a beauty contest it's a skill contest.


The community has the right to interview anyone they want to. Why does it need to have anything to do with skill? If people don't consider the interview worthwhile it won't be watched. But here we are now at 13 pages so this interview is obviously interesting enough for us.


You should stop putting words in my mouth. I'm not saying anything about people's right, I'm simply saying that in my opinion it's ludicrous that a woman is being interviewed only because she's a woman. Any women could have shown up, why is this woman so special?

It's great there are women competitors, but shouldn't she garner attention based on her skills competing, as opposed to the fact that shes a women or attractive?


Yeah
AlexCMoi
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada69 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 09:33:57
November 24 2011 09:32 GMT
#255
Why the hell there is a thread and a interview about her ? She's not good at all and she didn't do anything special in the games vs loisira, I don't see why would you give any attention to a diamond player. I wish I was a girl so I could make money out of stupid geeks cheering for girls playing starcraft even if she can't play. Btw, nice marketing for checksix... like they care about her skills lol.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
November 24 2011 09:34 GMT
#256
heh

alexcmoi wishes he had a vagina.
AlexCMoi
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada69 Posts
November 24 2011 09:39 GMT
#257
iNcontroL wishes he was good at the game he dedicated his life.
AlexCMoi
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada69 Posts
November 24 2011 09:39 GMT
#258
:D
kammeyer
Profile Joined June 2010
United States275 Posts
November 24 2011 09:43 GMT
#259
Too much originality floating around in this thread.
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
November 24 2011 09:59 GMT
#260
On November 22 2011 19:13 epicanthic wrote:
I seriously don't see why people constantly bring up the idea of having a female only tournament. The only reason why sports separate men from women is because of a proven biological advantage. But for games, men and women start on equal ground. The creation of a tournament just for women, even with the intention to help further female presence in the scene, is sexist.


No it's not sexist, anymore than youth clubs are ageist. Sexism is saying "women are incapable of competing with men". Having a women's league does not say that.

Yes, in a vacuum, there should be no advantage for males in an RTS. But men and women do not start on equal ground in the esports world. Women are ostracized and harassed and accused of using their gender/sexuality to get ahead.

Until every single post about a woman in gaming does not include dozens of creepers telling them how they'd like to fuck them (or calling them ugly), we need a place where female gamers can build a community. Until every creeper gets permabanned from TL and downvoted to oblivion on Reddit, we will need those environments.

Suggesting that women want their own league because they can't compete with men is just ignorant, and borderline insulting.
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