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NEgroidZerg
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States244 Posts
November 23 2011 06:29 GMT
#221
All I'm gonna say is that if she was 100 pounds heavier this interview would have never happened. Which is fucked up.
Yeah
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 06:32:33
November 23 2011 06:30 GMT
#222
Breaking news: Attractive young females treated better and given more attention than most other human beings. More at 11.


I kinda don't mind it though. Is anyone really worse off by her getting interviewed/spotlighted? No, and any promotion of sc2 that attempts to shake the image of basement dwelling neckbeard nerd is still good. Her being interviewed really doesn't come at anyone's expense so w/e.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
ChiIIgetoutGG
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada101 Posts
November 23 2011 06:32 GMT
#223
On November 23 2011 04:52 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 04:11 Klondikebar wrote:
On November 23 2011 04:08 Audemed wrote:
On November 23 2011 04:04 Klondikebar wrote:
On November 23 2011 04:03 Serpico wrote:
On November 23 2011 03:55 Klondikebar wrote:
On November 23 2011 03:47 Audemed wrote:
On November 23 2011 03:39 Klondikebar wrote:
On November 23 2011 03:32 aTnClouD wrote:
On November 23 2011 03:26 VirgilSC2 wrote:
[quote]
You know what they say about making assumptions....
As far as I'm aware, I haven't heard of ANY female SC2 player that dedicates 8-12 hours of play to hone their abilities. The fact that there aren't any top female players could also just be representative of the lack of females who dedicate themselves to the game full time. I could say that because there are no top tier Nigerian players there is obviously some physical handicap that makes Nigerian players unable to compete at the highest level, when in fact the problem is that Starcraft 2 isn't IN Nigeria. You said it yourself "Putting effort in competing is the essential ability to become a top player in esports" why should female gamers get to take the spotlight away from male players who ARE putting in that effort to compete, when the female isn't even close to the same level of dedication?

So you are basically saying I'm right since you even go as far as saying girls can't dedicate as much time so they are not able to achieve same results as males. I never said they have inferior intellectual capabilities I just said that, for whatever reason,esports is not gender equal, and if you look at the numbers it's pretty self explainatory. And honestly I've never ever met a girl stating the contrary. I just don't understand why so many people are pissed and bring in equality out of nowhere. Please explain.


People don't like the idea of girls gaining popularity simply because they're girls without being good at Starcraft 2 when there are lots of guys out there who are struggling to be known. Read: HOW CUM SHEE FAYMUZ BUT NAWT MEEEEEE?!!!?

What they have forgotten is that those girls actually do work very hard to be the best gamers they can be and a lot of those guys aren't actually as great as they'd like to think.

I definitely agree that we need to actively support equality. Girl gamers are a rarity. There's nothing wrong with interviewers and tournaments actively looking for them. Especially if we're going to encourage other girls to pursue their dream of being a pro gamer.


Wait, what? Work very hard? All she does is play team games. There's plenty of M/GM players at that tournament who have worked their asses off to get to the level they're at in order to do their best to compete. Hell, for the "obligatory female interview", Flo would have been a better choice, at least she puts effort into it. Like a previous poster said, there is nothing regarding the gender that's keeping female gamers out, it's the lack of dedication to it. If they practiced like male gamers, they could perform like them.

The big thing that gets me is the "omfg you sexists" when it's called out that the only reason she's up there was because she WAS female, when it's the obvious truth. Are you content with relegating them as being lessers, and deserving of special attention?



As long as they are such a minority in gaming, yes, I believe they deserve special attention.



No, they should get as much attention as anyone else would.


Not anyone else is a minority.


Affirmative action FTW! I love giving shit to undeserving people.



Probably not nearly as much as you like getting shit just because you happen to be in the majority. You get role models from Starcraft 2. You have players with whom you can identify. You did nothing to deserve them.

What role models do girls get? And why should they have to earn them when you didn't?

What in God's name are you talking about? Please stay on topic. The interview and ailuj have nothing to do with some requirement that you've invented where everyone must have role models made popular.


Do as he says.
"Seriously quit this business already, you are immature, not even good caster and TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR GENDER."
Divergence
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada363 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 06:56:46
November 23 2011 06:54 GMT
#224
On November 23 2011 15:29 NEgroidZerg wrote:
All I'm gonna say is that if she was 100 pounds heavier this interview would have never happened. Which is fucked up.


Not really...

Replace your statement with "100 APM slower" to see what I mean. Not everyone is equal.

What I'm trying to get at is we, as human beings, are interested in each other for many reasons. Some are interested in attractive female gamers. Is there a problem with that? We have the freedom to choose.

Edit: I should clarify and say that we should have freedom of choice. Of course some governments disagree.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 23 2011 06:57 GMT
#225
On November 23 2011 15:32 ChiIIgetoutGG wrote:
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On November 23 2011 04:52 Chill wrote:
What in God's name are you talking about? Please stay on topic. The interview and ailuj have nothing to do with some requirement that you've invented where everyone must have role models made popular.


Do as he says.


ChillgetoutGG quoting Chill. Huh.

Anyway,

Can't we have a thread where people don't have to act "omg im so smart so many things wrong with this thread"?

Girl had fun at MLG, loves the game we love, happens to be fairly attractive (not my type though). Deal with it.
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JethroTV
Profile Joined December 2010
United States206 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 07:01:47
November 23 2011 07:01 GMT
#226
I think she handled herself well and congratulations to her for getting to play on the main stage.

However, I feel that putting any gamer on the main stage, who does not possess the skill to be showcased on the main stage is a mistake - regardless of gender. In this case in particular - I feel that showcasing a low level player as something special - i.e. 'The first female ever!' is somewhat of a mockery of what that honorable position could be. If they wanted to showcase a female gamer - there are high level females who have earned it more, via being of the appropriate skill level.

=x
@JethroTV
IntoTheBush
Profile Joined July 2010
United States552 Posts
November 23 2011 07:05 GMT
#227
Cool interview, she definitely did well in the interview...but i still think females are getting unwarranted attention...

wish i were a girl so i'd get attention...but im not so ill be forever alone T_T
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
November 23 2011 07:13 GMT
#228
No question regarding her weird keyboard usage/hotkeys? That's the one thing I'm curious about.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11509 Posts
November 23 2011 07:17 GMT
#229
Yeah! West coast Canada represent! Good to see some Vancouverites making it out to the MLG. Definitely want to have MLG in Vancouver.
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canSore
Profile Joined November 2010
132 Posts
November 23 2011 07:26 GMT
#230
Nice
bad with girls, good with zerg
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
November 23 2011 07:35 GMT
#231
cool i'm in diamond maybe i can play her some time
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
November 23 2011 07:49 GMT
#232
More exposure to a hobby I love, intelligent and well spoken person being interviewed, wrecking some preconceived ideas about gamers and especially competitive minded ones. Hmm whats not to like?
Cheers!
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Beren
Profile Joined June 2010
United States514 Posts
November 23 2011 07:56 GMT
#233
On November 23 2011 16:01 SCJethro wrote:
I think she handled herself well and congratulations to her for getting to play on the main stage.

However, I feel that putting any gamer on the main stage, who does not possess the skill to be showcased on the main stage is a mistake - regardless of gender. In this case in particular - I feel that showcasing a low level player as something special - i.e. 'The first female ever!' is somewhat of a mockery of what that honorable position could be. If they wanted to showcase a female gamer - there are high level females who have earned it more, via being of the appropriate skill level.

=x

She wasn't put on the main stage... she was on the main stage because of Losira.. her opponent. Everyone at that stage in the tournament was playing relatively low level players. While I would say the female that played Jinro gave some pretty good games, I believe it was flo but i'm not sure.

I do agree that MLG probably had someone say "hey we could put so and so on the main stage for first match but Losira is playing this hot chick... "

Does some random diamond player deserve all of this attention? Nope. Is this how every community, for the most part, responds to something new and different? Pretty much. This is a male domintated arena at the moment, so are female's going to get preferential treatment? Yes. Lets just move along and learn to deal with it.
Aborash
Profile Joined June 2009
65 Posts
November 23 2011 08:33 GMT
#234
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Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
November 23 2011 08:37 GMT
#235
On November 23 2011 17:33 Aborash wrote:
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Oh please, this isn't new. Shall we take a stroll over the Nada Body Thread. Win/Lose it doesn't matter.

"69% of the time, Team Liquid misses the point every time."
NEgroidZerg
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States244 Posts
November 23 2011 08:46 GMT
#236
On November 23 2011 15:54 Divergence wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 15:29 NEgroidZerg wrote:
All I'm gonna say is that if she was 100 pounds heavier this interview would have never happened. Which is fucked up.


Not really...

Replace your statement with "100 APM slower" to see what I mean. Not everyone is equal.

What I'm trying to get at is we, as human beings, are interested in each other for many reasons. Some are interested in attractive female gamers. Is there a problem with that? We have the freedom to choose.

Edit: I should clarify and say that we should have freedom of choice. Of course some governments disagree.


Because MLG isn't a beauty contest it's a skill contest.
Yeah
Fujikura
Profile Joined April 2007
United States337 Posts
November 23 2011 18:36 GMT
#237
Checksix and Julia Fighting!
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SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
November 23 2011 18:40 GMT
#238
On November 23 2011 17:46 NEgroidZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 15:54 Divergence wrote:
On November 23 2011 15:29 NEgroidZerg wrote:
All I'm gonna say is that if she was 100 pounds heavier this interview would have never happened. Which is fucked up.


Not really...

Replace your statement with "100 APM slower" to see what I mean. Not everyone is equal.

What I'm trying to get at is we, as human beings, are interested in each other for many reasons. Some are interested in attractive female gamers. Is there a problem with that? We have the freedom to choose.

Edit: I should clarify and say that we should have freedom of choice. Of course some governments disagree.


Because MLG isn't a beauty contest it's a skill contest.


And this woman got no prize money, because she didn't have the skill to compete.

Your problem here?

Are people not in the top 8 excluded from interviews now? Are they not relevant at all?
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
November 23 2011 19:10 GMT
#239
On November 23 2011 12:08 SLTR.Maverick wrote:
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On November 22 2011 18:43 FaZe wrote:
Great job Julia
Losira is pretty good
But you are cuter


Losira is pretty cute.


Losira is REALLY cute, I am still reminded when Losira's coach came into his booth, stroking his hair gently before a game, so much manlove :D
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 19:16:50
November 23 2011 19:16 GMT
#240
im pretty sure most gamers in a strange way WANT super ugly girl gamers and are getting annoyed that every girl gamer is hot

i would much rather see a interview with a girl gamer and her be 60 years old and ugly. that way at least i could say "ahhh good see we dont just care about hotness in girl gamers. we just wanna see gamers and the reason these girl gamers are getting attention is because they are girls. and sure if they were guys of the same skill they wouldnt be getting attention but it doesnt matter because gender differences do exist and if the sport was 99% female, and 1% male, then the first few male progamers would also get spotlight like this even if their skill wasnt up to par. its not about a double standard, its simply a fact that men and women are different (however slightly it may be) and if one is a huge majority and another is a small minority, obviously some people will be interested in seeing some spotlight on some in the minority even if their skill in that minority isnt top level"



but with all these girl gamers being hot, all i end up saying it "GOD DAMMIT why is every gamer chick being interviewed super hot? what TEH FFFFFFFF???? ugh its like the interviewer is just trying to gain popularity by throwing a hot chick in our face. why cant you go find some ugly gamer girls dangit i care about starcraft not boobs!!!! "
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