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Velr
Switzerland10939 Posts
On November 24 2011 18:59 yeint wrote: blahblah Suggesting that women want their own league because they can't compete with men, while true, is just ignorant, and borderline insulting. Fixed that one for you. | ||
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Cubu
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Manifesto7
Osaka27175 Posts
On November 24 2011 19:07 Cubu wrote: What's wrong with a team picking a player based on looks? Being pretty wouldn't be treasured by everyone if looks didn't matter. Then why aren't i on a team? Your theory is flawed. Unless... My mother was wrong and im not the most handsome man around? I think it is awesome there are girls getting press. More power to them. They are under represented in gaming, and anything that helps fix that imbalance is good. | ||
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KiF1rE
United States964 Posts
On November 24 2011 15:11 KeyHunt wrote: [When a team picks up a player, we do not just look at their skill..or their placement in a league. No one does. Everyone looks at various criteria. Marketability, stability, dedication, exposure and also play. You think Quantic picked up Destiny purely because of his play? Not likely. Or EG is keeping InControl because his amazing performances as of late? No. All of which are good players, but that is not the sole..sometimes not even the main purpose for them being on a their teams. So, if a diamond player shows the kind of dedication, stream numbers, marketability and exposure that Julia does we will be more than happy to consider him/her for the team..and I am sure many others would as well. and thats exactly the point of where i hate the direction esports is going. casters, personalities make a much more stable living then the players that try hard and just dont have that extra umph for marketing to actually get what they need to succeed. though i understand why they are needed, but im completely lost on how to obtain these. as they cant be achieved with dedication or trying to be a nice guy. take me for example, my big goal is to eventually get on a big team, get practice partners and eventually do something, however i will never do that without a stable practice environment. all i have is dedication, i dont have marketability or stream numbers as i cant get that following to grow, without some special quality. dedication is all i have. meaning dedication only places me in awkward situations where i get partial success in online events, finishing like top 12 in two ttesports challenges etc. Just enough to go "hey, im here,im competing at a fairly high level but not getting anything out of it"... Dedication of practicing 8 to 10 hours a day will only take me so far, especially when its a waste of practice time mostly laddering and becoming frustrated with the lack of success i get, and the lack of stability my life has, which in turn hurts my play drastically. depressed say hello to a 15 game losing streak and poor results. and in this community there is very little hope for someone outside of all the loops to actually succeed with dedication alone. It just seems most of those qualities are completely luck based on happening to be found and getting that jump start. nothing against julia she is a nice person, ive just been so meh personally lately i felt like writing an epic post to help get somethings off my mind personally after reading yours. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On November 24 2011 19:07 Cubu wrote: What's wrong with a team picking a player based on looks? Being pretty wouldn't be treasured by everyone if looks didn't matter. whats wrong with a team picking a player based on any arbitrary factor they choose? absolutely nothing. their team, their money, their sponsors. they can do whatever they want. | ||
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yeint
Estonia2329 Posts
I must have clicked the "please convert my post to sexist drivel" check box by accident. Sorry! | ||
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halvorg
Norway717 Posts
....................................x6.MajOr.............x6.Ailuj Good at the game:............X Great Potential:.................X Solid Mechanics:...............X Internationally known:........X Good Looking................................................X Charismatic...................................................X Good Manners...............................................X I see what you did there x6. Take it as a joke, it is up to you who you choose to sponsor. Doubt you'll harm anyone doing so : ) | ||
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SpicyThaiBoy
Thailand26 Posts
 Representing Vancouver community! | ||
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Coramoor
Canada455 Posts
Until i started randoming I was a 400 point masters protoss on the NA ladder(ie nothing special at all), Yes i certainly don't have the dedication to the game she may have, but in some respects that's worse. I'm part way through the interview because i'm curious, but when there is a girl that i'm confident I could beat in a bo 5 or bo7 or bo9 or whatever, I don't think skill is the primary factor, and the way to make women be respected in this community is not by picking them up because they are "marketable" I just think that unless she becomes amazing, and who knows maybe she will, if not though, i think checksix is doing a disservice to the game and the overarching concept of E-Sports and women in E-Sports This isn't a knock on Julia, I'm sure she's a great person but diamond... come on x6 | ||
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TSBspartacus
England1046 Posts
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Fujikura
United States337 Posts
On November 24 2011 19:35 halvorg wrote: + Show Spoiler + ....................................x6.MajOr.............x6.Ailuj Good at the game:............X Great Potential:.................X Solid Mechanics:...............X Internationally known:........X Good Looking................................................X Charismatic...................................................X Good Manners...............................................X I see what you did there x6. Take it as a joke, it is up to you who you choose to sponsor. Doubt you'll harm anyone doing so : ) Yeah, good stats there lol! | ||
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Mabius
Canada323 Posts
On November 24 2011 18:39 AlexCMoi wrote: iNcontroL wishes he was good at the game he dedicated his life. ouch! | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Not everyone wishes they had a vagina. That would be an improvement to alexcmoi though.. so I can see his viewpoint  | ||
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alhazrel
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taintmachine
United States431 Posts
On November 23 2011 09:24 desRow wrote: ?????? nice argument you don't say why I'm wrong. I just copy pasted my post from reddit. Too many players had breakthrough at MLG and they get no exposure. Players like vile state or vile illusion had no interviews and they got really far in the chapiomship bracket. the ends justify the means in securing the future of female gamers in sc2. i guess. | ||
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Nymbul
United Kingdom127 Posts
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Mabius
Canada323 Posts
On November 25 2011 07:58 alhazrel wrote: She has the destiny speech thing going on, I was going to suggest that she was him in disguise but then he knocked her out ? Destiny just has a thing where his lower jaw moves horizontally when pronouncing some words, Julia has a minor lisp thats all, completely different things. | ||
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monx
Canada1400 Posts
On November 24 2011 18:39 AlexCMoi wrote: iNcontroL wishes he was good at the game he dedicated his life. come on Alex. Cheapshots like this, really? | ||
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Utinni
Canada1196 Posts
On November 25 2011 07:51 iNcontroL wrote: what? Everyone wishes they were good at the game they dedicated their life to o_O Not everyone wishes they had a vagina. That would be an improvement to alexcmoi though.. so I can see his viewpoint Fucking shitty that you have to live in that shitty house with your shitty friends playing this shitty game... shitty life bro! Woops typo, replace shitty with fantastical. alex is a silly gent. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
Basically, if julia were a random guy diamond do you think she would be getting all this attention? Nope. I'm all for girl SC2 gamers, but how about jumping on the interview/media bandwagon when you get a very successful masters/GM girl that does something worthy of getting all this attention or competes in some huge event (like the divina tournament thing), not just doing it because the girl happens to obviously be beautiful...which is basically the only reason julia is getting all this attention... so yeah...WHERE ARE THE VILE ILLUSION INTERVIEWS HUH? I'm just echoing desrow on this, as well as others i'm sure. There are a lot of huge fucking open bracket heroes and others that are way more deserving of interviews/all of this attention... | ||
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