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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
December 09 2011 22:25 GMT
#241
I am 99.999% sure this is a smurf.

Anyone who knows the progamer lifestlye in bw they know they have little time if any to play any other games. Its not like sc2 where you can take some time off. Many bw pros play for 12+ hours a day with usually 8 being the minumum. I doubt with the stress of PL on now. They likely don't have time to play sc2, nevermind the amount he is playing currently.
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
December 09 2011 22:25 GMT
#242
On December 10 2011 07:24 zhurai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 07:24 eYeball wrote:
Lol sage did just play CJEntusHydra also >_>

who won XD


hydra lol
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
December 09 2011 22:25 GMT
#243
On December 10 2011 07:21 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 07:17 munchmunch wrote:
On December 10 2011 07:13 fatalities wrote:
On December 10 2011 07:07 ZenithM wrote:
On November 06 2011 14:09 Bibbit wrote:
Also note S class totally bloody means something in BW, its not like Code S at all. Hydra is goooooood!!!


Enough with that, Code S is the best of the best in SC2 as well. Whether or not BW players are way beyond them is another matter, but for current players, being Code S is nothing to laugh at.


I think he means that Code S in BW literally means you've dominated the game for a while and could be considered a candidate for best in the world. There's like 4 Code S BW players? So basically, MVP would be the only possible equivalent.
-never followed BW, correct me if I'm wrong-

Nestea and MC could possibly be in the ranks of S class according to BW terminology. After all, Bisu hasn't really performed in the OSL or MSL in a while.


From what I understand of the meaning of "S class", it's just a completely different term from "code S". Probably closer to "bonjwa" (blasphemy! you must basically be alone at the top for an extended period of time to be called a bonjwa, I believe) than "your typical top player at the GSL".

Only S-class player for SC2 would be MVP imo.


S-class in BW is like the biggest superstars in the NBA, or someone you would start your franchise with. So in the NBA, it would be Lebron James, Dwight Howard, Kevin Durant, Dwyane Wade and maybe Kobe Bryant (too old now). That's pretty much the list. Similarly in BW, its a list of 4, maybe 5 people. There's no one in SC2 that's S-class simply because no one has consistent enough results over years that you can be sure you want him to start your franchise. MVP is good, but he was knocked down to Code A before, and you can't guarantee he will have continued success. Just too early to tell.
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 22:25:45
December 09 2011 22:25 GMT
#244
LOL he playing again vs SAGE lolol just started

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/NSHS_Sage
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13407 Posts
December 09 2011 22:25 GMT
#245
On December 10 2011 07:24 hmunkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 07:07 ZenithM wrote:
On November 06 2011 14:09 Bibbit wrote:
Also note S class totally bloody means something in BW, its not like Code S at all. Hydra is goooooood!!!


Enough with that, Code S is the best of the best in SC2 as well. Whether or not BW players are way beyond them is another matter, but for current players, being Code S is nothing to laugh at.

S class was a lot more selective than Code S though. Both indicate the best, but there are some key differences.


S class is a classification for a player, code S is a tournament distinction. They are different to be fair.

Though Code S is for the best players you cant have 32 s class players so its not the same.
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SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
December 09 2011 22:25 GMT
#246
On December 10 2011 07:21 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 07:17 munchmunch wrote:
On December 10 2011 07:13 fatalities wrote:
On December 10 2011 07:07 ZenithM wrote:
On November 06 2011 14:09 Bibbit wrote:
Also note S class totally bloody means something in BW, its not like Code S at all. Hydra is goooooood!!!


Enough with that, Code S is the best of the best in SC2 as well. Whether or not BW players are way beyond them is another matter, but for current players, being Code S is nothing to laugh at.


I think he means that Code S in BW literally means you've dominated the game for a while and could be considered a candidate for best in the world. There's like 4 Code S BW players? So basically, MVP would be the only possible equivalent.
-never followed BW, correct me if I'm wrong-

Nestea and MC could possibly be in the ranks of S class according to BW terminology. After all, Bisu hasn't really performed in the OSL or MSL in a while.


From what I understand of the meaning of "S class", it's just a completely different term from "code S". Probably closer to "bonjwa" (blasphemy! you must basically be alone at the top for an extended period of time to be called a bonjwa, I believe) than "your typical top player at the GSL".

Only S-class player for SC2 would be MVP imo.


Most people would consider Bisu, Stork (maybe not right now), Jaedong, Flash, Fantasy, Hydra, and Effort to be "S" class BW players. They don't need to be near-bonjwas.
MMA: The true King of Wings
woobsauce
Profile Joined August 2011
United States491 Posts
December 09 2011 22:25 GMT
#247
NsHs.Sage just lost a game to someone named "CjEntusHydra."
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
December 09 2011 22:25 GMT
#248
Was watching the Bomber/hydra game, for a zerg he was quite a beast. But why cant hydra play like the player as we saw him? It's been pretty clear CJ has been practicing SC2 and together against each other as practice partners..How much? It's quite unknown. CJ just had finished the game as well for the SPL so he does have time to game....but here's a thing to consider..when bomber played him? It was what? 5-6am KST? Would a BW player stay up that long just to have a go at SC2? Personally, I'm a fan of BW players as you can see by my manlove for IMMVP and ForGG, and hoping it was CJ-Entus Hydra, makes me wonder too if on the ForGG stream yesterday,if it really was Fantasy on the chat since he had broken english/speaking korean etc...
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
December 09 2011 22:26 GMT
#249
On December 10 2011 07:25 woobsauce wrote:
NsHs.Sage just lost a game to someone named "CjEntusHydra."


ye they playing again
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
December 09 2011 22:26 GMT
#250
Yeah Hydra has to practice 8-12 hours a day of BW to stay in top form, combine that with 8 hours of sleep then there is no way he'd have time for 40 games of SC2 unless he just got a vacation day or something. (I doubt it)
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1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 22:29:16
December 09 2011 22:27 GMT
#251
On December 10 2011 07:25 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 07:21 ZenithM wrote:
On December 10 2011 07:17 munchmunch wrote:
On December 10 2011 07:13 fatalities wrote:
On December 10 2011 07:07 ZenithM wrote:
On November 06 2011 14:09 Bibbit wrote:
Also note S class totally bloody means something in BW, its not like Code S at all. Hydra is goooooood!!!


Enough with that, Code S is the best of the best in SC2 as well. Whether or not BW players are way beyond them is another matter, but for current players, being Code S is nothing to laugh at.


I think he means that Code S in BW literally means you've dominated the game for a while and could be considered a candidate for best in the world. There's like 4 Code S BW players? So basically, MVP would be the only possible equivalent.
-never followed BW, correct me if I'm wrong-

Nestea and MC could possibly be in the ranks of S class according to BW terminology. After all, Bisu hasn't really performed in the OSL or MSL in a while.


From what I understand of the meaning of "S class", it's just a completely different term from "code S". Probably closer to "bonjwa" (blasphemy! you must basically be alone at the top for an extended period of time to be called a bonjwa, I believe) than "your typical top player at the GSL".

Only S-class player for SC2 would be MVP imo.


Most people would consider Bisu, Stork (maybe not right now), Jaedong, Flash, Fantasy, Hydra, and Effort to be "S" class BW players. They don't need to be near-bonjwas.



Actually no, the general arguement is TBLS plus occasionally Fanta, with Hydra, Zero, etc being right below on the cuff. Effort just came back, it's hard to call him S class

edit: personally I consider fanta and hydra S class easily but there are a lot of people who honestly only think it's TBLS
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
December 09 2011 22:27 GMT
#252
On December 10 2011 07:19 baoluvboa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 07:18 zhurai wrote:
On December 10 2011 07:16 baoluvboa wrote:
On December 10 2011 07:14 zhurai wrote:
On December 10 2011 07:13 fatalities wrote:
On December 10 2011 07:07 ZenithM wrote:
On November 06 2011 14:09 Bibbit wrote:
Also note S class totally bloody means something in BW, its not like Code S at all. Hydra is goooooood!!!


Enough with that, Code S is the best of the best in SC2 as well. Whether or not BW players are way beyond them is another matter, but for current players, being Code S is nothing to laugh at.


I think he means that Code S in BW literally means you've dominated the game for a while and could be considered a candidate for best in the world. There's like 4 Code S BW players? So basically, MVP would be the only possible equivalent.
-never followed BW, correct me if I'm wrong-

MVP wasn't code s iirc...


He meant if u apply to sc2 the same categorical requirement to be in Code S in bw, then MVP would be the only one in Code S for SC2

true, but I'm saying in BW he was just an a teamer right? oo


Yea but he has only been playing for one year ish I believe as a pro player in proleague. He could possibly have been a great player if he kept going on BW but he was around a 40-50% player.


debuted '08 in spl and was little less than 40% career; not really 50%.

"S" class means very elite tier, basically the "ace" of every team who also do well in individual leagues. Think of it that way. Taekbangleesang (bisu flash jaedong stork) and some others when they are on a good streak. Things like the six dragons when they were prominent.

someone just answered as I was typing, but yeah. Hydra can be s class as he is a recent MSL winner and one of CJ's aces. Effort isn't S-class right now but when he won his osl he was.

S-class usually has like 70% winrates over the course of a pretty dominant period.
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3128 Posts
December 09 2011 22:28 GMT
#253
I am 99.999% sure this is a smurf.

Anyone who knows the progamer lifestlye in bw they know they have little time if any to play any other games. Its not like sc2 where you can take some time off. Many bw pros play for 12+ hours a day with usually 8 being the minumum. I doubt with the stress of PL on now. They likely don't have time to play sc2, nevermind the amount he is playing currently.

If they're stuck at Pusan currently with not much to do, I can see them knocking out a bunch of SC2 for fun/practice. Plus, there have been constant, incessant rumors and reports that Kespa is about to include SC2 in Proleague in a very big way.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
December 09 2011 22:28 GMT
#254
Heh. Sage cannonrushing ._o
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
December 09 2011 22:29 GMT
#255
Code S vs Class S difference...
Code S is a status for a player at SC2 for a tournament: GSL
S Class: a player who's highly regarded a tier above the Class A team (see: Horang2, Soulkey, Stats etc..) and a S class by recongition by everyone (TBLS, and debatable: Leta, EffOrt (in his prime), Jangbi)
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
December 09 2011 22:30 GMT
#256
On December 10 2011 07:27 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 07:25 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On December 10 2011 07:21 ZenithM wrote:
On December 10 2011 07:17 munchmunch wrote:
On December 10 2011 07:13 fatalities wrote:
On December 10 2011 07:07 ZenithM wrote:
On November 06 2011 14:09 Bibbit wrote:
Also note S class totally bloody means something in BW, its not like Code S at all. Hydra is goooooood!!!


Enough with that, Code S is the best of the best in SC2 as well. Whether or not BW players are way beyond them is another matter, but for current players, being Code S is nothing to laugh at.


I think he means that Code S in BW literally means you've dominated the game for a while and could be considered a candidate for best in the world. There's like 4 Code S BW players? So basically, MVP would be the only possible equivalent.
-never followed BW, correct me if I'm wrong-

Nestea and MC could possibly be in the ranks of S class according to BW terminology. After all, Bisu hasn't really performed in the OSL or MSL in a while.


From what I understand of the meaning of "S class", it's just a completely different term from "code S". Probably closer to "bonjwa" (blasphemy! you must basically be alone at the top for an extended period of time to be called a bonjwa, I believe) than "your typical top player at the GSL".

Only S-class player for SC2 would be MVP imo.


Most people would consider Bisu, Stork (maybe not right now), Jaedong, Flash, Fantasy, Hydra, and Effort to be "S" class BW players. They don't need to be near-bonjwas.



Actually no, the general arguement is TBLS plus occasionally Fanta, with Hydra, Zero, etc being right below on the cuff. Effort just came back, it's hard to call him S class


If Zero is right below the cuff, then Effort is definitely very cuff. Effort is boss yo.
MMA: The true King of Wings
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
December 09 2011 22:30 GMT
#257
Loosely, S-class in these terms mean: MC, MVP and Nestea.

All have been the best of their respective race for a long period of time (with the possible exception of MC, who is maybe the equivalent of Stork with his ups and downs). Players like Jjakji and Leenock are trying to reach that level of being the best for a long period of time, possibly the equivalents of Jangbi or Fantasy.

To give some indication of skill, there are 4 S-class BW players. There are 32 Code S SC2 players.

Just because they both have the letter "S" doesn't make them the same term, guys.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 09 2011 22:31 GMT
#258
On December 10 2011 07:27 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 07:25 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On December 10 2011 07:21 ZenithM wrote:
On December 10 2011 07:17 munchmunch wrote:
On December 10 2011 07:13 fatalities wrote:
On December 10 2011 07:07 ZenithM wrote:
On November 06 2011 14:09 Bibbit wrote:
Also note S class totally bloody means something in BW, its not like Code S at all. Hydra is goooooood!!!


Enough with that, Code S is the best of the best in SC2 as well. Whether or not BW players are way beyond them is another matter, but for current players, being Code S is nothing to laugh at.


I think he means that Code S in BW literally means you've dominated the game for a while and could be considered a candidate for best in the world. There's like 4 Code S BW players? So basically, MVP would be the only possible equivalent.
-never followed BW, correct me if I'm wrong-

Nestea and MC could possibly be in the ranks of S class according to BW terminology. After all, Bisu hasn't really performed in the OSL or MSL in a while.


From what I understand of the meaning of "S class", it's just a completely different term from "code S". Probably closer to "bonjwa" (blasphemy! you must basically be alone at the top for an extended period of time to be called a bonjwa, I believe) than "your typical top player at the GSL".

Only S-class player for SC2 would be MVP imo.


Most people would consider Bisu, Stork (maybe not right now), Jaedong, Flash, Fantasy, Hydra, and Effort to be "S" class BW players. They don't need to be near-bonjwas.



Actually no, the general arguement is TBLS plus occasionally Fanta, with Hydra, Zero, etc being right below on the cuff. Effort just came back, it's hard to call him S class

edit: personally I consider fanta and hydra S class easily but there are a lot of people who honestly only think it's TBLS


Judging from Effort's current play and what his coaches and team have been saying. The Messiah is very much back.
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
December 09 2011 22:32 GMT
#259
On November 06 2011 14:09 Bibbit wrote:
Also note S class totally bloody means something in BW, its not like Code S at all. Hydra is goooooood!!!


I'm not going to say Code S= S class

but it definitely means something to be Code S in SC2
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 22:34:28
December 09 2011 22:34 GMT
#260
Whoever he is, he's good, just stomped Sage
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