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Fishriot
United States621 Posts
On November 01 2011 02:07 vtbarrera wrote: We need a players union not just for SC2 pros but for all realms of eSports. I like this idea. If a unified "Esports players union" decides to boycott a tournament by not sending players from multiple games, it would definitely have a larger impact than losing the players from a single game. I can imagine this being an organizational nightmare though  | ||
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aike
United States1629 Posts
On November 01 2011 02:08 iNcontroL wrote: idra had to threaten to not play esl events any more to get paid for something he was owed over a year ago O_O Sounds like we need an International eSports Players Association... IeSPA  | ||
Waxangel
United States33483 Posts
mbCARMAC Michal Blicharz: "Intel Extreme Masters: season 5 paid, season 6 events: on schedule." | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
It's a horrible thing and mostly comes from a sponsor side, for example I am 6 weeks behind on Korean Weekly payouts and it KILLS me but the sponsors are in no hurry to spend the money, I literally email them every single day. They are just so used to paying out whenever..... I hope this "standard" goes away. Edit: 30 minutes after I posted this I got word I am being paid today, so we are no longer behind, but the point still stands. | ||
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Baerinho
Germany257 Posts
Wonder if Mr. Bitter and Rotti also have to wait up to 2 years for their salary  | ||
Carmac
Poland375 Posts
Intel Extreme Masters is on schedule with prize money payouts. 2010/2011 is paid out. Next event to get paid out is the Cologne Global Challenge (either paid out or until 3 months after the event, which is in November). Guangzhou & New York Global Challenges will be paid out within 3 months of the respective event dates. | ||
ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
you just have to be patient | ||
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eNtitY~
United States1293 Posts
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MrBanana
United Kingdom13 Posts
Makes me sad... | ||
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BoomNasty
United States265 Posts
On November 01 2011 02:01 TI51 wrote: ROFL of course they're gonna pay when they have the lowest prize pool of every live event ever (and many online events) you realize they pay out halo and mw2 at the same time.... if they couldnt pay out in time, why would they increase prize pool for next year if it could hurt their rep if they take longer to pay out.... think before you post | ||
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dre2k
Netherlands215 Posts
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zachMEISTER
United States625 Posts
On November 01 2011 02:13 Carmac wrote: For anyone asking: Intel Extreme Masters is on schedule with prize money payouts. 2010/2011 is paid out. Next event to get paid out is the Cologne Global Challenge (either paid out or until 3 months after the event, which is in November). Guangzhou & New York Global Challenges will be paid out within 3 months of the respective event dates. Corporate Responsibility right there. Pat on the back Carmac. | ||
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
On November 01 2011 02:13 Carmac wrote: For anyone asking: Intel Extreme Masters is on schedule with prize money payouts. 2010/2011 is paid out. Next event to get paid out is the Cologne Global Challenge (either paid out or until 3 months after the event, which is in November). Guangzhou & New York Global Challenges will be paid out within 3 months of the respective event dates. The issue seems to be with EPS which is also run by ESL if i'm not mistaken. Good to see that IEM is fine though (evenethough 3month is still long it's still reasonnable compared to the industry standards..) | ||
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LaLuSh
Sweden2358 Posts
The secondmost annoying thing is admins in certain online tournaments almost going out of their way in regards to having no clue and being totally oblivious to who handles payments/economics for their tournaments. You win a tournament and ask the admins what details they need and sure enough like clockwork they respond "I don't know, ask some higher up admin who maybe knows" (and who happens to not be online at the moment; meaning you have to spend your time chasing them down on IRC everyday and hope they're online whenever you're in the mood for tracking them down). After tracking the higher up admin down, he/she in turn refers you to the head admin (who in turn is online even less often). When you finally catch the head admin online after 2-3 weeks (usually it's not because you've actively tracked them down, but because you happened to play another one of their weekly cups and this admin with "special insights" into the payment processes happened to be online this week), you ask him and he anticlimactically responds: "Oh, you just need to send a mail to our accountant/economics guy at agjkgjlkfag@tournament.de". And you always have to send a first mail asking about what payment details they require, because the head admin of course had no clue. That or the head admin asks for my e-mail and has the economics guy e-mail me or send me a PM through their internal website system. After which I respond with my details... And by general rule they will never reply to confirm they've received the details or that they are "processing" the details or that the payment will take "X days/weeks/months". So after about 3-4 weeks of no communication and nothing happening, you have to fire off another e-mail/PM to them. "Hey, I know you might be busy (and in certain cases that your organisation is known to be tardy with payments), but I would appreciate at least a confirmation that you received my previous e-mail/PM, or whatever to know that the payment details i provided didn't just vanish into thin air. Thanks. /Lalush". Props to the tournaments where admins ask you for details directly after finals. Because the ones described above are really annoying to deal with. | ||
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ES_JohnClark
United States1121 Posts
As Joshy has pointed out.... many of these large organizations must jump through hoops to make sure the prize money is paid out. This process can take time. As for smaller organizations (like mine).. we are often at the mercy of an investor or sponsor. For CSN, its very important to us that we have our sponsorship money up front.. but this is not always possible and we must trust the sponsor we are working with. The entire process of getting the organizations, players and sponsors on the same page and more structured requires a basic understanding of the process and time involved in many cases. another 3 cents.. | ||
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ThisGS
Germany255 Posts
On November 01 2011 02:13 Carmac wrote: For anyone asking: Intel Extreme Masters is on schedule with prize money payouts. 2010/2011 is paid out. Next event to get paid out is the Cologne Global Challenge (either paid out or until 3 months after the event, which is in November). Guangzhou & New York Global Challenges will be paid out within 3 months of the respective event dates. if thats the case, everything is fine. i believe the IEM organizers are not responsible for EPS, although both are ESL events? | ||
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qck
United Kingdom201 Posts
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coolphantom
Canada17 Posts
You and other players should talk to a lawyer a sue these people. | ||
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templar rage
United States2509 Posts
On November 01 2011 02:08 iNcontroL wrote: idra had to threaten to not play esl events any more to get paid for something he was owed over a year ago O_O I wonder how many players actually have the leverage to do this (assuming it worked for Idra) | ||
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Voldron
Greece91 Posts
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