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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
On October 31 2011 23:06 Mehukannu wrote: Mmmm, so good protoss and zerg tears. Cheers Im sure you will be whining when you have been lower winrate than P and Z for 15 months and are outnumbered 4 to 1 in GSL by another race | ||
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
On October 31 2011 23:07 Cyro wrote: Im sure you will be whining when you have been lower winrate than P and Z for 15 months and are outnumbered 4 to 1 in GSL by another race Sure but remember that Blizzard is interested in balancing from Bronze all the way to the Pros. Apart from GSL, the reality for Terran is very different. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On October 31 2011 23:07 Cyro wrote: Im sure you will be whining when you have been lower winrate than P and Z for 15 months and are outnumbered 4 to 1 in GSL by another race nope terrans never whine they race switch, we are adaptable *-* . Shredder drops look so terrible weak. But i like the lings running into shredders. All the hidden baneling mines and the hold posi lukers will get returned now. And the unit only has range 4 and can be seen. BW terrans probably think i wish lurkers would be that easy to spot. | ||
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
On October 31 2011 23:13 Psychobabas wrote: Sure but remember that Blizzard is interested in balancing from Bronze all the way to the Pros. Apart from GSL, the reality for Terran is very different. It's not even GSL, it's ONLY Code S. Code A even has a rather small showing for T. That being said, there are things about the shredder than we don't know, like if the damage aura stacks. Do we even know if the range is the same from Blizzcon to this mod? | ||
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kmh
Finland351 Posts
On October 31 2011 23:17 aksfjh wrote: It's not even GSL, it's ONLY Code S. Code A even has a rather small showing for T. That being said, there are things about the shredder than we don't know, like if the damage aura stacks. Do we even know if the range is the same from Blizzcon to this mod? That the damage does not stack has been confirmed by blizzard. It's right there in their presentation. As for the range I cannot say. | ||
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
The next wave was around 12... Those things spawn 2 at a time, so there should have been around 40 locusts on the field, and it never even came close. Otherwise, it's cool to see the concepts in use. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On October 31 2011 10:07 DarkRise wrote: so shredder + siege tanks + bunker? Tell me how we gonna break this lol Take 3 bases, put shredder / tanks / bunkers at defensives point while massing Ghosts 8D | ||
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
On October 31 2011 23:18 kmh wrote: That the damage does not stack has been confirmed by blizzard. It's right there in their presentation. As for the range I cannot say. That answers that, thanks. Since that's the case, I hardly see how this unit can be considered OP since 2 weeks after release we'll have spread sheets telling us how many of what unit we need to kill shredders without losing anything. Obviously, use will be more dynamic than that, but their "space control" aspects will probably have most utilization as retreat insurance. Leaving them on their own, like you might do with mines, is not likely. That is unless you just place down 20 of them along an attack corridor, but I'm sure that would be more of a troll situation than anything. | ||
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EricCartman
Canada306 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On October 31 2011 23:18 kmh wrote: That the damage does not stack has been confirmed by blizzard. It's right there in their presentation. As for the range I cannot say. Range is 3 btw. That make the only unit able to kill them without being hit are Hydra. | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
On October 31 2011 22:55 Gigaudas wrote: Commenting on whether it is OP or not seems pointless - the stats can always be changed. What dislike is that I feel like Terran is already very well defended against harassing Zerglings, encouraging the Zerg to keep all of his army in one place at a time. Harass being automatically handled is BAD, challenging the gamers is GOOD. Taking a third on maps like Metallopolis is ALMOST impossible as terran because a competent zerg will always attack your expo and run away as soon as he sees your units. The same can be said for protoss, but warp-in kinda help against that. And please stop saying that siege tanks and PF helps defending. Siege tanks do too little damage so defending an expansion with JUST tanks is not suitable. A PF needs time to morph and a zerg can take an advantage from that. | ||
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MMello
279 Posts
On October 31 2011 23:13 FeyFey wrote: nope terrans never whine they race switch, we are adaptable *-* . Shredder drops look so terrible weak. But i like the lings running into shredders. All the hidden baneling mines and the hold posi lukers will get returned now. And the unit only has range 4 and can be seen. BW terrans probably think i wish lurkers would be that easy to spot. L O MOTHERFUCKING L.. This is some of the funniest shit ive read in a while.. That being said.. The drops do not look weak at all Seems like everything just dies about 3 seconds in  We will also see how much Terran QQ's when Protoss replicate the Shredder  + Show Spoiler + If the Replicator doesnt get dropped due too the people who are already QQ'ing about it | ||
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BeeNu
615 Posts
On October 31 2011 23:13 FeyFey wrote: nope terrans never whine they race switch, we are adaptable *-* . Shredder drops look so terrible weak. But i like the lings running into shredders. All the hidden baneling mines and the hold posi lukers will get returned now. And the unit only has range 4 and can be seen. BW terrans probably think i wish lurkers would be that easy to spot. Lol, Terrans whine as much as anybody. Remember when Zergs started to use Infestors more? Terran tears as far as the eye could see for at least a solid month straight. | ||
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RQShatter
United States459 Posts
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Antares777
United States1971 Posts
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tnud
Sweden2233 Posts
On October 31 2011 23:29 Noocta wrote: Range is 3 btw. That make the only unit able to kill them without being hit are Hydra. ? Hydra(5), Roach(4), Infested Terran(5), Broodlord(9)? | ||
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zimms
Austria561 Posts
On October 31 2011 23:29 Noocta wrote: Range is 3 btw. That make the only unit able to kill them without being hit are Hydra. Yeah, but to counter that, Zerg are rumoured to get another new unit with HotS. It's called roach. If you want to discuss the shredder, please discuss its basic design, not its stats. edit: too slow  | ||
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Umpteen
United Kingdom1570 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Everything I detest about ZvT seems to be getting magnified in HotS, and all the fun stuff I've been looking forward to is designed to be: a) massed before it can be useful, and thus incapable of spicing up the drab, passive, drone-centric Zerg early game, and b) countered by two Shredders. | ||
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TALegion
United States1187 Posts
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khaosis
Canada96 Posts
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