On the new map Calm Before the Storm I don't like how the in base expansion is a full expo with 2 gas. Make it 5 mineral patches (or 8 1/2 mineral patches), and remove one of the gas.

Sabu113

United States11086 Posts

October 27 2011 21:54 GMT

#223

Mnnn ok. I'm tempted to get code s again to watch MC with these maps. Once that next patch cmes out that might be as good as it gets.

Scribble

2077 Posts

October 27 2011 21:56 GMT

#224

Calm is a bit scary looking as a zerg player. Rocks at the in base expo and the 4th and really narrow pathways. The plus side is that it looks pretty counter-attack friendly. Getting kind of a Crossfire mixed with Shakuras vibe from it.

Sad to see Meta go, especially given that Antiga/Dual Sight are still around.

Telcontar

United Kingdom16710 Posts

October 27 2011 22:02 GMT

#225

On October 28 2011 06:52 Amlitzer wrote:
On the new map Calm Before the Storm I don't like how the in base expansion is a full expo with 2 gas. Make it 5 mineral patches (or 8 1/2 mineral patches), and remove one of the gas.

So basically turn it into Crevasse? I like the way it is. The map will work a little like Terminus and there's been some great games on that map.

Ruscour

5233 Posts

October 27 2011 22:04 GMT

#226

Why do they insist on keeping Crossfire :S

TeeTS

Germany2762 Posts

October 27 2011 22:06 GMT

#227

Hmmm I remeber me saying, that one of the most imbalanced features of SC2 are gold bases. It's really positive, that GOM come to the same thought. Gold Bases support abusive play very much. Zerg fastexpanding @ gold an overwhelming with a mass of Units that they shouldn't be able to support in the early game, are a hell, as well as Terrans taking the Gold as third and climbing away in Supply in the midgame, while being absolute indestructable with a PF. Also hidden Gold Bases were so abusive Strats, very frustrating for the better players and the fans of the game, seeing a lesser skilled player win, with abusing that factor.
It's a very good move. I think this will be the most competetive GSL season of all time, with the new format, the best game balance ever and no gold bases on GSL maps. I'm really looking forward to it.

FoeHamr

United States489 Posts

October 27 2011 22:08 GMT

#228

To bad meta is gone the week it re-enters the map pool. I really like the look of the re-skin on Bel'shir and the new map looks pretty cool to. Glad that gold bases are finally gone, and hopefully other tournaments will follow suit and get rid of them to.

Amlitzer

United States471 Posts

October 27 2011 22:08 GMT

#229

On October 28 2011 07:02 Telcontar wrote:

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So basically turn it into Crevasse? I like the way it is. The map will work a little like Terminus and there's been some great games on that map.

No because Crevasse had no rock at the in base allowing you to FE, and it also had an enriched gas rather than a regular one. Also, your line of reasoning does not make any sense. "It will be too much like an existing map which is not even played anymore so it's bad". So I guess we can't have rocks at the third expo anymore because TA did that first? There is also a lot more into what made Crevasse unique besides the in base expansion; like the double wide ramp with debris, and the destructible debris that opened up the middle, and etc.

Wuster

1974 Posts

October 27 2011 22:09 GMT

#230

On October 28 2011 06:47 CeriseCherries wrote:
Hmmm I guess the no gold could hurt terran...

Im loving the winter look tho

I like the winter look too. I wonder if they'll change all the maps to be seasonal (I think that could be cool if they did it once in a while... or really monotonous).

I think the gold thing is that early contain -> ninja gold was so strong. If you get the early contain that should be it's own advantage. You shouldn't get a double advantage for bottling your opponent up. It made early all-ins that forced people to turtle in their base way too strong, for instance 1-base roach bust on Crossfire or the many variation of contain -> take opponent's gold on Dual Sight we've seen.

Leargle

United States173 Posts

October 27 2011 22:10 GMT

#231

Glad to see the gold bases go. They were a cool concept, but even as a terran player, I feel like they were pretty imba...

Toadvine

Poland2234 Posts

October 27 2011 22:13 GMT

#232

On the topic of PvT favored maps, I kind of wish someone would make a map without empty space or cliffs behind the main/natural mineral lines.

MooMooMugi

United States10531 Posts

October 27 2011 22:15 GMT

#233

Wow all gold minerals removed from most of the maps, what a change

xxpack09

United States2160 Posts

October 27 2011 22:18 GMT

#234

I like the idea of Winter Bel'Shir, but it's really hard on the eyes. Calm Before The Storm reminds me of God's Garden in BW, which I think is pretty cool.

Hailene

United States80 Posts

October 27 2011 22:23 GMT

#235

There's so many rocks! There's the backdoor, which will probably end up as a third base for most zergs, but beyond that, there's waaaay too many rocks.

EventHorizoN

Germany101 Posts

October 27 2011 22:29 GMT

#236

Love it!

Especially the BelShir Beach change and the new map looks as well interesting. Guess it will make 3basing much easier? But either was I'm pumped to see them in action!

ThaZenith

Canada3116 Posts

October 27 2011 22:32 GMT

#237

Ooooh, that's belshir beach. Interesting, though sometimes I wish more maps had a brighter theme.

Remfire

492 Posts

October 27 2011 22:35 GMT

#238

Hmm pretty cool maps should create some very interesting play and strategies. I am kind of sad they removed metalopolis, but i am sure that is not a big deal. I have always enjoyed games on the map. though. I really really like Winter Belshir, should be good!

Skipton

United States707 Posts

October 27 2011 22:35 GMT

#239

The map pool changes are always a joy. Good job.

pdd

Australia9933 Posts

October 27 2011 22:37 GMT

#240

Am I the only one who hates the new Bel'shir Beach? But then again I never really liked it as a map anyway.

Also I kinda feel Crevasse>Calm Before the Storm. We'll have to see.

I hope the new maps are not terribly imbalanced against Terran. Don't want to see them all drop out of Code S because of maps.