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LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
October 25 2011 21:30 GMT
#21
Wait, why hadn't I heard about this patch coming? Freaking huge changes!
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xai_death
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands65 Posts
October 25 2011 21:30 GMT
#22
Hmm, shield upgrades and EMP are valid balance changes in my opinion. Not sure about making it cheaper to upgrade weapons and armor, cause when I'm toss I'm ahead in those upgrades of my terran and zerg enemies already most of the time. I'm only gold though .
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ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
October 25 2011 21:30 GMT
#23
EMP radius reduced by .5 - will that actually change anything seeing as 3/4 ghosts are enough to blanket an army anyway?
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
TheAssclown
Profile Joined July 2011
United States38 Posts
October 25 2011 21:30 GMT
#24
With blizzard changing less and less with each patch, i guess they feel the balance of SC2 is almost perfect..
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 21:30:49
October 25 2011 21:30 GMT
#25
@EMP change: OH FUCK YES.
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
October 25 2011 21:30 GMT
#26
This is the end of Protoss QQ.

Double forge = go-to build.

And now we have two ways to deal with medium groups of bio: heavy sentries or heavy upgrades.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 21:31:21
October 25 2011 21:30 GMT
#27
The cost for the shield upgrades were insane and needed to get toned down, and for Ghost EMP, No spell should be able to 1000+ damage instantly because that is what EMP can do with its current radius against protoss.
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Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
October 25 2011 21:31 GMT
#28
Hmm.. are these changes enough?
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 25 2011 21:31 GMT
#29
I don't think protoss need this kind of change..
Protoss already get the fastest upgrades, now the cheapest ?

I'm okay with emp nerf, but buffing protoss this way is somewhat wrong imo.
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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
October 25 2011 21:31 GMT
#30
Holy crap lategame TvP is gonna be tough.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
October 25 2011 21:31 GMT
#31
On October 26 2011 06:29 VPCursed wrote:
why does toss need cheaper upgrades, dont they get 3-3 fast enough?

the shield makes sense, it was always too expensive, even in broodwar, guess they just didn't bother

I don't think reducing the lvl 2 + 3 of armor + weapon is gonna affect balance all that much, just a small tweak, better to go that way than make huge changes
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 25 2011 21:31 GMT
#32
These will be the only type of balance changes for WoL. It's all going to be minor bandaids until the expansion comes out.
HinagikUx
Profile Joined January 2011
United States178 Posts
October 25 2011 21:31 GMT
#33
triple forge build inc ^^
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WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
October 25 2011 21:31 GMT
#34
On October 26 2011 06:30 TheAssclown wrote:
With blizzard changing less and less with each patch, i guess they feel the balance of SC2 is almost perfect..


And your upset.. why?
Legion710
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada423 Posts
October 25 2011 21:31 GMT
#35
AWWWWWWWWWWW YEAHHHHH«
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Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
October 25 2011 21:31 GMT
#36
Glad for the cost decreases for protoss. I don't think anyone can complain about that.
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
Andypk
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland512 Posts
October 25 2011 21:31 GMT
#37
Nice patch, surprised about no snipe change though
Altar
Profile Joined May 2008
United States577 Posts
October 25 2011 21:31 GMT
#38
I remember back in beta when the emp radius was 3, so funny.
Heavens to Betsy
j4vz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada976 Posts
October 25 2011 21:31 GMT
#39
i love these changes, i think the ghost change is good but i would have nerfed snipe also.
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Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
October 25 2011 21:31 GMT
#40
Lol wow, lovin all the love for protoss :D
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