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On October 25 2011 06:24 Philipd122 wrote: Is the new Tempest a massive unit?
It doesn't look like one, so wouldn't you make like 1 tempest then replicate it for 100/100 less of the cost?
Its the new protoss capital ship, so I would guess that it is massive.
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imagines toss relicating scv to get rax to mass rines......
LOL
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On October 25 2011 06:26 zmansman17 wrote: Wow Imagine a Toss replicating an SCV and making infinite Orbital Commands in late game. There may need to be a patch haha
in late game PFs would be more interesting actually. no more nexus snipes by 4 marauders!
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i think the best use for this would be if you open robo and scout what looks like some kind of timing attack, like a 1-1-1, you can make replicators to copy they banshees or tanks and hold the push that way, especially since you get cloak with the copied ones.
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Personally, I think (maybe) scv or drone, ghost (auto-gets cloak, can emp medivacs/snipe marines and marauders), tank, banshee, and infestor. Perhaps viper as well, or raven.
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Can a toss replicate his own stuff? If so, Colossus are cheaper now. Also, can he replicate hallucinations? If so, what happens?
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On October 25 2011 06:12 TedJustice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 06:10 Dman wrote:On October 25 2011 06:05 TedJustice wrote: Also, imagine replicating a couple of banelings. Would they have burrow move researched already? Then again, with the viper's ocular parasite, that probably won't be too viable. I wouldn't want a 200/200 4supply baneling anyways  I just figured if it had burrow move, the damage you could potentially deal would be worth it. But you're right, it would be a huge investment for a big risk. Yeah hmm.. one fungal is better than one baneling, plus you get to keep the infestor.
The replicant is likely to be removed before release imo. It's really not starcrafty, is a nightmare to balance, and most protoss seem to take it as an insult to their race.
They are the most technologically advanced race known to man, yet they have to copy the other races. What?
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mass scv to repair Protoss units? :D
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On October 25 2011 06:32 rbx270j wrote: Can a toss replicate his own stuff? If so, Colossus are cheaper now. Also, can he replicate hallucinations? If so, what happens?
Cannot copy massive units.
I doubt you can copy hallucinations, it would give access to any (non-massive) unit without even building the production facility.
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I don't think it will come out of the beta with unlimited range because you could just get an observer where the opponent army is and just replicate some tanks or infestors and then attack. it should have a large range so it can outrange seige tanks but not unlimited
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On October 25 2011 06:34 Dman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 06:32 rbx270j wrote: Can a toss replicate his own stuff? If so, Colossus are cheaper now. Also, can he replicate hallucinations? If so, what happens? Cannot copy massive units. I doubt you can copy hallucinations, it would give access to any (non-massive) unit without even building the production facility. yeah, i forgot about the no-massive thing.
but what about enemy hallucinations? a Scouting Phoenix, Void, Immortal or what have you.
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Funny if unlikely application would be to turn dt rushes around in pvp.
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if you copy a caster do you start with 200 energy??
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Replicate SCV, build an Orbital. That will clear the costs of the Replicator all by itself. Best used as a transition out of 2 or 3 base play. Marine/Sentry/Immortal play could be very strong too. Marines to kill things, Sentries to defend against enemy Marines and keep Hellions locked down, Immortals to destroy Tanks. Terran upgrades would come quite quickly if Chrono'd, I would imagine, letting you catch up to an opponent who got a head start on Terran tech.
Pretty much, use the badassery of Chrono Boost to break tech designed to work without it.
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You know, I think I just realized why mass recall is no longer a unit ability.
Then everyone would be doing the SC2 equivalent of the the royal stove
On October 25 2011 06:41 lim1017 wrote: if you copy a caster do you start with 200 energy??
My guess would be 75 if the caster has an available upgrade that gives it +25 starting energy and 50 if not.
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On October 25 2011 06:46 Stanlot wrote:You know, I think I just realized why mass recall is no longer a unit ability. Then everyone would be doing the SC2 equivalent of the the royal stove Your link doesn't work.
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On October 25 2011 06:49 Dman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 06:46 Stanlot wrote:You know, I think I just realized why mass recall is no longer a unit ability. Then everyone would be doing the SC2 equivalent of the the royal stove Your link doesn't work. Fixed, thanks
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To be honest, I think Blizzard will get cold feet about 1,5 month before their internally set launch date and decide to scrap the replicator. Being an interesting unit, I do not think Blizzard will think they'll be able to balance it. Instead they'll postpone the launch (out in the public, we won't know it's being postponed, except from the fact that the Replicator is being scrapped from the beta) and come up with a more generic unit to fill the gap.
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On October 25 2011 01:48 V2. wrote: As the replicator is a flying unit, I'm thinking maybe, using it in conjunction with mass recall, to get immortal harass without using a warp prism, so instead of spending 200/0 on a warp prism, you spend 200/200 on the replicator and get an immortal and harassment done, and on the way there if you see your opponent is going banshees, you can replicate a banshee instead and recall them home safely.
And if your opponent is going marines, zerglings or mutas, you can always keep the replicator or bring home a worker. Instead of thinking of this unit to stop one strategy, to take over one unit, I think the cost was meant to discourage that, and was meant to be used as a sneaky little fucker.
late game, mass recalling around a few siegetanks in siege mode around to defend bases would be kick arse, if you could get a viper it would be well worth the cost of the replicator to make all of his roaches/hydras useless, and be able to detect them running slowly burrowing away.
And we haven't even begun to think about the BM this unit would enable... Protoss will have the ultimate BM of replicating marines and making them dance!
The replicator isn't a flying unit
source: Played HOTS twice at blizzcon.
Weird I know.
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