[D] Swarm Host Redundant? - Page 13

On October 25 2011 07:42 Nazarid wrote:
Fleeze, Zerglings are in no way free... mineral cost is small yes... But that's a larvae I could use on another unit... or drones... they are not free in the slightest...

So many people in this thread think they will be used Alone... and without any support what so ever... You ever seen collosi or siege tanks all alone? no never... stop being single minded and think about all the options zerg already have and the other new unit zerg have in combo with infestors would make them even more deadly .. from just the video(I know numbers etc will change before release don't troll) the siege tanks were unable to just Blast them down only after 3 shots did they die. that's a decent amount of damage soaking obviously they could move faster but Even if they stay with the exact way they are in the video they will be a great asset to any zerg that wants to either Hold their choke point from pesky harassing units like the hellion or to help push back a Terran siege line. I am very happy with this unit esp if supported properly this unit could be very good... obviously if you use them alone.. the wave gets cleared and then terran/zergs/protoss move up and clean them out. they need to be protected not left alone to die.

On October 25 2011 08:02 Conquerer67 wrote:

Really though, could people stop debating about something that's probably 7-8+ months away, and that we know little to nothing about?

On October 25 2011 07:58 fleeze wrote:


the 1 spawn you will get in a fight is worth 2 zerglings. though you invested 200/100 (?) in the host. that is not worth it, you had better build pure zerglings.

On October 25 2011 08:02 Conquerer67 wrote:
From what I played, it is definitely much different that broods and infestors. They can't be EMP'd, for one, the locusts have pretty high HP (90ish, I think), so they can actually cause friendly fire against terran and survive long enough against zealots for other things to happen, and even though they are slow, if you cover them with enough roaches, lings, mutas, etc, then there really isn't anything they can do, just make sure they don't get replicated.

EDIT: Not to mention Blinding Cloud makes these rather ridiculously OP against tank lines.

Really though, could people stop debating about something that's probably 7-8+ months away, and that we know little to nothing about?

On October 25 2011 08:04 btlyger wrote:
I know it's been said. I know blizzard has talked about it. But seriously, no to the swarm host and put in the lurker.

The swarm host is just bland. There is no flavor to it. It doesn't help that much in a fight and will be overshadowed by other Zerg units.

The lurker was a perfect unit, there is no reason not to put it back in. Banelings have found themselves a nice niche that is far different from what lurkers were for in BW.

I really don't understand why it's not being implemented into this game. They already have the entire unit done besides the balancing. It is the cheapest thing for them to implement and there is no excuse for them not to.

On October 25 2011 08:06 fleeze wrote:


and why exactly would you take swarm hosts with your viper instead of speedlings?
this is exactly what the OP is stating.... redundant (and not space controlling).

On October 25 2011 08:12 Nin-x wrote:
Why is everyone whining so much? So the swarm host isn't going to single handedly win the game for you, is that so bad? Were you really expecting to get a new super unit?

On October 25 2011 07:34 EnclaveUSA wrote:

And look at early versions of Swarm Host. Previously we had flying locusts.

On October 25 2011 08:14 Falcor wrote:
we dont want a super unit we wanted a unit that could control space on a map. This unit needs to be with other units and if its with other units either the spawned units are going to get stuck behind your ranged units or going to be fighting for space with your zerglings.


edit: it has me curious tho depending on the life cycle of the spawns. there was a trick in dota back in the day were you would block 1 lane with creeps you could spawn...and let the creeps that your base spawn build up until there is a huge mass of units then let them go.

So could you hold position some roaches or w/e and block the spawns until a 2 or 3 waves have spawned and then let them go?

On October 25 2011 08:04 btlyger wrote:
The lurker was a perfect unit, there is no reason not to put it back in. Banelings have found themselves a nice niche that is far different from what lurkers were for in BW.