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Rokevo
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1033 Posts
October 29 2011 08:38 GMT
#781
I like the way the swarm host looks. Now I obviously cant relate to the the people who have trypophobia, since I dont suffer from it myself.. But if Blizzard took into account every phobia that existed and designed units based on that.. well then Zerg would be a visually boring race.
Ironsights
Profile Joined January 2011
United States196 Posts
October 29 2011 11:24 GMT
#782
On October 29 2011 15:03 Ironsights wrote:
The reptiles that seemed to have things living in their backs made me raise an eyebrow, but thats mostly curiosity. Now I want to know what the hell was in them! lol.



Quoting myself here, but curiosity won out and I thought I would share.

The creature spawning things from its back is totally natural and quite real. It is an amphibian known as a Surinam Toad, and that's its normal reproductive cycle. There are a few Surinam species, but that family of amphibians is the only one that reproduces like that (at least that I could find in a brief google session).

This serves two purposes:

1- the baby frogs go through the tadpole stage safely in their mother's back, protecting them from predators.

2- it freaks humans the hell out


The more you know.
Pain, like any other emotion, can be turned off. // If there can be no victory, then I shall fight forever.
WeddingEpisode
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States356 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 11:35:38
October 29 2011 11:34 GMT
#783
Wait a second, was the video implying that our body is our co-brain?
Does our body educate our brain?
Still diamond
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
October 29 2011 17:20 GMT
#784
On October 29 2011 17:09 sandg wrote:
Their reactions then were the same as many people's in this thread, minus the 'itchy' part, which someone cleverly added on (you are getting itchy because you are getting told to feel itchy, not because of what you are watching).


No, that's wrong. I must have missed when some humans gained the power to feel and know what other humans experience. Other people in this thread have said it, and I'm one of them too: we have felt these itches long before this thread or before anyone told us what this phobia is. I saw that picture of the teathed-hole-in-finger years ago and it made me literally claw at my own finger and scratch it. It still does if I think about it too intently. As soon as I saw Browders video on the Swarm Host I got itchy hands (before this thread was made). I'm getting itchy because that's what these images do, not because of what someone told. You have no ability to perceive others' lives, quit acting like you do.
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obsKura
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland1061 Posts
October 29 2011 18:21 GMT
#785
Am I a bad person because I started laughing while reading the topic? I think this is kind of weird.
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paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
October 29 2011 18:33 GMT
#786
....
you tell people they might get itchy by watching this video and a few people inevitably will.
add on some lines of pseudo science to make it sound real and voila: you have a phobia.
attwell
Profile Joined July 2011
United States220 Posts
October 29 2011 18:35 GMT
#787
Aberrations from the campaign have a bunch of little squirming boils on their back that burst open when you kill them...why didn't people complain about this before?

BTW this whole thread is BS and a waste of time.

I get a horribly itchy feeling when I think of think of walking on asphalt with beach sand on my feet. i also am slightly disgusted by things bursting out of the backs of other things. Holes do not bother me. The swarm host looks fine, and itchiness is not a good enough reason to change anything besides skin lotions.

/end thread
PDizzle
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark1754 Posts
October 29 2011 18:40 GMT
#788
On October 30 2011 03:21 obsKura wrote:
Am I a bad person because I started laughing while reading the topic?

idk really, cause so did i ^__^
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
October 29 2011 18:41 GMT
#789
There seems to be very little (read zero) reliable scientific literature on this, it looks more like something that makes a lot of people uncomfortable than a diagnosable phobia, which probably has more to do with humans often getting grossed out by the same things than people having actual medical disorders.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 29 2011 18:44 GMT
#790
NesTea likes this units so no further changes shall be made!

Anyways, I don't think the units needs to be changed. It looks gross and it sends shiver down my spine (not as bad as THAT video, though), but if you don't concentrate on it, it should be fine. But only time will tell.
reptile
Profile Joined July 2010
United States210 Posts
October 29 2011 18:45 GMT
#791
This is ridiculous... The entire zerg swarm, everything from creep to larva involve 'disgusting' themes. Man up.
"When the game is over, the King and the Pawn go back in the same box."
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
October 29 2011 18:53 GMT
#792
I am SO scared of it ... maybe something like the Lurker would be less scary
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 29 2011 19:01 GMT
#793
yeah those aberrations were really ewwwww ... but they weren't shown as a new unit, so no one cared. Which made the effect of seeing them first really cool. Anyway the swarm hosts ewww factor is nothing compared to a few other games, that weren't horror at all. For me the Ufo series (not xcom series the one that copyed em) had alot of really ewww monsters.
And while playing multiplayer you will be to concentrated to even notice any effects, unless you will talk yourself into it.
Orangu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada198 Posts
October 29 2011 19:29 GMT
#794
On October 30 2011 02:20 Crisium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2011 17:09 sandg wrote:
Their reactions then were the same as many people's in this thread, minus the 'itchy' part, which someone cleverly added on (you are getting itchy because you are getting told to feel itchy, not because of what you are watching).


No, that's wrong. I must have missed when some humans gained the power to feel and know what other humans experience. Other people in this thread have said it, and I'm one of them too: we have felt these itches long before this thread or before anyone told us what this phobia is. I saw that picture of the teathed-hole-in-finger years ago and it made me literally claw at my own finger and scratch it. It still does if I think about it too intently. As soon as I saw Browders video on the Swarm Host I got itchy hands (before this thread was made). I'm getting itchy because that's what these images do, not because of what someone told. You have no ability to perceive others' lives, quit acting like you do.


Whoa dude you may feel this way legitimately but there are going to be some people that feel slightly itchy or uncomfortable simply because the thread primed them to be, although probably never to the same extent you mentioned, its kind of like how saying "don't think of a black cat" will make people think of a black cat, the mind is very easily manipulated in these subtle ways.
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Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 19:48:41
October 29 2011 19:43 GMT
#795
Arachnophobia is one of the most widespread "phobias" around and nobody even raised the issue with Dragoons in Starcraft which look awful alot like spiders (Tarantulas to be more exact). There are gigantic spiders in pretty much every game, Resident Evil to World of Warcraft, and this issue was never raised, infact it made the game more fun for people who do suffer from it, as it was a safe way to confront their fears and phobias.

I do believe that some of you get itchy because of this and that you arent trolling or making shit up, but you also need to know that there are phobias for pretty much everything and people didnt complain about it before. Thus the question begs: why should your fears/phobias be something that we should try to hide when other phobias and other people do not get the same treatment? Not to mention that this is a damn videogame

That is the entire point of interactive entertainment and movies, to confront your fears, you do things in videogames you could never dream to do in real life. To accomodate everyone we would eventually all only have Pong, and i bet there is a phobia for balls/squares bouncing around, so we probably cant even have that.

And like i said before, if many of you experienced this on 4chan, then you know aswell as most people here that there are far far FAR worst things posted on that site than holes on bugs/people.
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Neeh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway458 Posts
October 29 2011 19:53 GMT
#796
So, mass swarm lords and there's a 10% chance you'll win outright as your opponent can't even watch the screen as they're itching all over. Neat.

All in all I don't really see the issue here, there's tons of gross animations and art throughout games in general and you can't sit around thinking everything will be accpected by everyone.

For example, whenever blizzard release new art for armor in WoW, half the replies are shitting on 'em, granted that's not exactly the same, I don't think you should be suprised that people dislike how a certain unit looks, it's just how people are.
Herr Wilhelm
Profile Joined July 2011
Chile170 Posts
October 29 2011 20:03 GMT
#797
I really think asking to change the swarm host artwork, just because of a bunch of holes is totally unnecesary.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
Elean
Profile Joined October 2010
689 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 20:10:05
October 29 2011 20:07 GMT
#798
I wonder why the moderator haven't closed this thread already, or at least moved it to blogs.

I thought this forum was to talk about starcraft 2 and not some weird phobia.

Oh, and just go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_phobias , and you will see that with all the weird phobia existing, you basically have to take everything out of the game if you follow the reasoning of the OP.

This is so absurd, I can't even believe it.

PS:
The phobia the OP is mentioning is so rare and not worth mentionning, it's not even in the wikipedia list of phobia.
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
October 29 2011 20:15 GMT
#799
If the unit disgusts you that's a pretty good sign zerg is going in the right direction, no offence
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Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
October 29 2011 20:19 GMT
#800
On October 30 2011 04:43 Tyree wrote:
Arachnophobia is one of the most widespread "phobias" around and nobody even raised the issue with Dragoons in Starcraft which look awful alot like spiders (Tarantulas to be more exact). There are gigantic spiders in pretty much every game, Resident Evil to World of Warcraft, and this issue was never raised, infact it made the game more fun for people who do suffer from it, as it was a safe way to confront their fears and phobias.




You are wrong on this. You're irrationally scared of something - something makes you itch/it's impossible to even look at it. You don't understand it it just feels like that. It's not fun, and certainly doesn't feels like a safe way to confront your fears since there's never really any danger. I have to deal with a huge load of irrational fears in my life and I know myself that selldome in my fears/phobias I could be remotely in danger. (unless you decide to swim in spiders to fix your phobia or w/e)

The problem with things like this is that most people simply don't feel it and thus won't understand or associate the right feeling with it. I know this from therapy I've had over pretty much all of my life.

I don't think they should base their design choices of phobias since like said in this thread there are a huge load of fears out there and it's impossible to please everyone. At the same time I woulnd mind if they allowed you to filter certain things like the reduce blood option. But it's a design choice I guess chances are people with this specific phobia are out of luck.
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