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F00LY
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States125 Posts
October 21 2011 17:46 GMT
#1521
On October 22 2011 02:45 F00LY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 02:44 RoyAlex wrote:
On October 22 2011 02:42 F00LY wrote:
On October 22 2011 02:41 blindsniper wrote:
On October 22 2011 02:38 F00LY wrote:
Can the replicon clone friendly units? If the case, it has a HUGE potential.

If its cheap, you make 1 HT or DT back at base, and for a cheaper cost, you make an army of them with replicons.

Just like Hallucination right?


Problem with that is with Hallucination, you dont get storm and such. If replicon is cheap than 1 HT or 1 DT, you can essentially make a (cheaper) archon, a cheaper storm army, etc. So long as these replications dont have a stupid timer.


Replicas don't get abilities/spells.


Really? I thought it said they did =(


Yeah it definately says they get any upgrades such as cloaking etc.
twitch.tv/F00LY
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 21 2011 17:46 GMT
#1522
On October 22 2011 02:45 F00LY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 02:44 RoyAlex wrote:
On October 22 2011 02:42 F00LY wrote:
On October 22 2011 02:41 blindsniper wrote:
On October 22 2011 02:38 F00LY wrote:
Can the replicon clone friendly units? If the case, it has a HUGE potential.

If its cheap, you make 1 HT or DT back at base, and for a cheaper cost, you make an army of them with replicons.

Just like Hallucination right?


Problem with that is with Hallucination, you dont get storm and such. If replicon is cheap than 1 HT or 1 DT, you can essentially make a (cheaper) archon, a cheaper storm army, etc. So long as these replications dont have a stupid timer.


Replicas don't get abilities/spells.


Really? I thought it said they did =(

As of the build being shown off, they get all spells according to Josh.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Dariusz
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland657 Posts
October 21 2011 17:46 GMT
#1523
On October 22 2011 02:42 Fyzar wrote:
What the fuck ;> No more carrier makes me a sadpanda, I had hoped they would just revamp it QQ.

The units look fucking sick though, except for the terran ones, but they odn't deserve it.
IS THE MARAUDER GONE BTW?


Hope not, cuz all i'm gonna be doing is massing replicants and copying them and droping terran lol
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
October 21 2011 17:46 GMT
#1524
On October 22 2011 02:44 DeadMet wrote:
Im really sad to see the carrier go.. It's prolly the coolest unit in the toss arsenal.. just that it havent gotten used -.-'

Though Im really happy for the new terran units from the fac, but, if they made a unit just like a Goliath, why could they not named it goliath and take its design? :/




It's not quite the same as the goliath. By the description it will actually have anti-light SPLASH AA. The goliath didn't have splash AA. Also price, range of attacks, ground attack, etc. Pretty similar, but not exactly the same.
Mcleod21
Profile Joined July 2011
Jamaica29 Posts
October 21 2011 17:46 GMT
#1525
i guess blizzard got tired of the floating scouting factories
"Minigun going hard in the paint" -Frodan
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
October 21 2011 17:46 GMT
#1526
So is there really any point in investing time to get good at the game at a low level? (mid masters or below that is)... things are gonna change ALLLLL over again for LOV.. -_-

Oh well.. cool to see a lurker type unit back!!
Jaedong.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
October 21 2011 17:46 GMT
#1527
omg mothership gone ? tempest 300/300 ?
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
October 21 2011 17:46 GMT
#1528
Zerg units look amazing, very happy about those.

The others.. at least the Tempest looks interesting
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 21 2011 17:46 GMT
#1529
Protoss units looks like gimmicks :/
Terrans units are ok I guess, but it's just new unit for the same utility replacing old units.
Zerg units looks good, I guess that makes sense as it's the zerg expansion pack.
Vapaach
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland994 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 17:47:40
October 21 2011 17:47 GMT
#1530
Nexus can now recall? Okay that seems a bit imba to me I have to say. Unless there is some heavy cost to it.
If you never try you never know. Sase - Mana - TLO - WhiteRa - Naniwa - Sheth - HuK
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 17:47:18
October 21 2011 17:47 GMT
#1531
On October 22 2011 02:45 Roxy wrote:
I crave more content, anyone got something new (like newer than 15 mintues old?)


agreed, i need to know every units cost/psi and tech tt
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
October 21 2011 17:47 GMT
#1532
the zerg units look amazing. The others are meh. Is the warhound replacing the thor?
Better than Pokebunny
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
October 21 2011 17:47 GMT
#1533
On October 22 2011 02:46 Cyro wrote:
Info on nexus spell - "Third spell is recall just like the Mothership." from djtyrant's twitter


Recall to any nexus? Warp-in your entire army to defend an expansion?

Someone pinch me. I'm clearly dreaming.
n0ave
Profile Joined January 2011
180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 17:48:04
October 21 2011 17:47 GMT
#1534
Yeah, not the best new units tbh.
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
October 21 2011 17:47 GMT
#1535
On October 22 2011 02:46 bonifaceviii wrote:
My take on it:

half of this garbage will be gone by HotS release.


I still can't believe carriers will be gone
MeLo
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia192 Posts
October 21 2011 17:47 GMT
#1536
On October 22 2011 02:46 Cyro wrote:
Info on nexus spell - "Third spell is recall just like the Mothership." from djtyrant's twitter


That's amazing.

I can now recall units back when Zerg attempts to base trade with Mutas or Terran with drops.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 21 2011 17:47 GMT
#1537
On October 22 2011 02:46 Yaki wrote:
omg mothership gone ? tempest 300/300 ?

Only 75 seconds to build vs the carrier's 120, though. No need to spend resources on interceptors either.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
AxiR
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany944 Posts
October 21 2011 17:47 GMT
#1538
whats the thrid nexus spell?
Absentia
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom973 Posts
October 21 2011 17:47 GMT
#1539
Some elements of the units I like...some I do not.
It seems there's a lot of new abilities being added of which a couple seem a bit gimmicky.

a) Viper: Why not just give overlords a detection upgrade at lair tech instead of giving a unit the ability to create a detector? Recall thing seems....odd.

b) Replicant seems kinda pointless and uninteresting...zerg already has neural parasite and this new ability doesn't sound too different.

c) Why bother going to the whole effort of creating a carrier replacement instead of just fixing the carrier as it as at the moment? Splash damage to light should've been given to the phoenix, (what's the point in having 2 anti light AA units one of which is almost completely gimmicky?)

InvalidID
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1050 Posts
October 21 2011 17:47 GMT
#1540
On October 22 2011 02:45 Vega62a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 02:44 oogieogie wrote:
On October 22 2011 02:38 Dariusz wrote:
On October 22 2011 02:33 Hexxed wrote:
These new protoss units are awful. They seem too gimmicky.

We need a harass unit. Not something that can't even kill. Bubbles... Seriously... You came up with bubbles...


those protoss units are exactly what we need, you're just to retarded to see good use for them.

lolwat..these units are not what protoss need at all besides the harass thing with warp in > nexus recall if that is right.

imo you just can't really balance a unit that prevents mineral harvesting. Also why do P need to clone units when they already have very powerful ones? The tempest is lategame, and toss needs help i guess early/midgame not endgame.



I agree. And in particular this "replicant" unit seems utterly useless unless it's cheap enough that you can chrono it out to quickly clone more expensive units. All three of the new Toss units just seem gimmicky.


Well that appears to be the design philosophy for toss. The entire effectiveness of the race is based around assorted gimmicks.
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