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Kilowog
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4 Posts
October 21 2011 17:09 GMT
#1021
On October 22 2011 02:09 HydraLF wrote:
Give me protoss mutalisks, I don't want carrier#2, overseer2.0 and a pokemon :S


Could not have said this better myself.
radical
dbosworld
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States317 Posts
October 21 2011 17:09 GMT
#1022
On October 22 2011 02:08 Ventil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 02:05 Asha` wrote:
Rumour has it hydra speed has been increased o-o

Source? Now that's something that really would be sweet if it's true!


It's a rumor.....
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Zketch
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden34 Posts
October 21 2011 17:09 GMT
#1023
On October 22 2011 02:07 Erik.TheRed wrote:
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On October 22 2011 02:04 TT1 wrote:
is psi storm an ability? if u cant use any abilitys or attacks when z has their army underneath their op swarm then how are we supposed to kill their units?

yeah i think at least vortex should work over a dark swarm

With good control of the viper it seems like you could deny feedback + psi storm wich would make infestor, ling hella good
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
October 21 2011 17:09 GMT
#1024
lol terran units.

so basically a smaller thor, a transformer hellion and the other unit? Not too pleased but whatever it's okay
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
MeLo
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia192 Posts
October 21 2011 17:09 GMT
#1025
Wait so the Replicant.

If it works on non-massive units, does that mean I can steal siege mode vs the 1-1-1?

And if the Terran decides to open Cloaked Banshees, does that mean I can use Cloak against them at the other end as well?
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
October 21 2011 17:09 GMT
#1026
fastest 50 page thread during work hours ever? lol..
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BreakfastTea
Profile Joined May 2011
United States184 Posts
October 21 2011 17:09 GMT
#1027
The viper is going to so amazingly fucking OP, it's great. Using the "grant detection" ability, can you imagine how awful banelings are going to be to deal with? A cloaked ultralisk? It's like a raven, but with useful abilities.

Replicants are going to be sick. Terran makes a ghost to EMP your templar. Fuck, just replicate a ghost and EMP him -- no contest, favor Protoss. Question is, can you replicate a replicated unit? Imagine a Protoss amassing a fleet of tanks or BCs...

It's sounds like the Tempest is going to force Terran into making BCs to deal with Protss air (or a bunch of the new Warhounds).

Well, I called the hellion upgrade down to a T, including the type of drawbacks of switching to it's transform mode. Lame unit. Warhound could be cool, hopefully more mobile than the Thor which it is presumably replacing. The shredder sounds neat, nice to have an area control unit to aid tanks.

Don't take me seriously, I'm no Pro. Neither are you.
Hoodlum
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States350 Posts
October 21 2011 17:09 GMT
#1028
On October 22 2011 02:07 NuKedUFirst wrote:
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On October 22 2011 02:05 SharkSpider wrote:
Not a fan of most of it. The oracle and replicant are pretty dumb, terran units seem utterly uninspired and the swarm host seems like a less cool version of infested terran spam from burrow.


Oh really? You've seen them in the game and how they play? cool how'd you do that while all everyone else say cellphone pictures.

How can you tell each of them is "dumb" and "not cool" when you havn't played the game with them in it. really doesn't make sense to me.


Some people are just gonna be like this... No point trying to fight with closed minded individuals my friend.
xO gaming owner
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
October 21 2011 17:10 GMT
#1029
Honestly I was really skeptical, but the new units sounds like a lot of fun, lets see if they can somehow balance them now. The answer in a couple month.
Aaaaah i want to play HOTS so bad now!
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10067 Posts
October 21 2011 17:10 GMT
#1030
On October 22 2011 02:06 Fission wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 02:04 TT1 wrote:
is psi storm an ability? if u cant use any abilitys or attacks when z has their army underneath their op swarm then how are we supposed to kill their units?


Well, why don't we just sit tight and FIND OUT WHEN THEY TELL US LATER? Or you could just cry some more, based on pretty much no information.


obv im going with option #2, blizzard prob wants us to utilize our new changeling/overseer combo to pwn their super swarm
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Hattori_Hanzo
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore1229 Posts
October 21 2011 17:10 GMT
#1031
On October 22 2011 02:02 dementrio wrote:
The warhound is a goliath.

I can't help but feel that they can just save a lot of trouble by simply putting back the real deal without all this roundaboutness.


If they make the right rifle arm act like snipe vs mechanical, that'll be awesome.
Then it'll be the goliath+1 or a micro-thor.

I'll be pretty excited if this was the case. :D
Cauterize the area
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 21 2011 17:10 GMT
#1032
On October 22 2011 02:09 Roe wrote:
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On October 22 2011 02:06 synapse wrote:
Honestly I'm disliking the first two toss units and the terran units...

The replicator thing just sounds like a bad hallucination gimmick, so until we get clarification.... >.> Oracle just sounds imbalanced... can stop mining, can see what buildings enemy is building? WTF?

Goliath = want, AOE = not want (unless the damage is really low). It should be a unit that's massable, not something that you can be like "oh look 30 mutas, I'll just make 2 of these and defend." Battle hellion, well yeah we all kind of called it, seems kind of boring and the transformer thing has been so overdone :T

zerg will still magic box, so you'll need to mass them like gols in bw, which will make magic boxing take some interesting effort

its ahrd enough to muta harass if theres a Thor since magic boxing is the last thing you want to do with these guys sprinkled aropund there base with some turrets theyd be able to shut down muta harass alot earlier
Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
October 21 2011 17:10 GMT
#1033
On October 22 2011 02:05 HopLight wrote:
Ehm, so theoretically a few dark swarms over some swarm hosts while infestors fungal any melee units trying get close should be pretty good yes?

Blizzard can't leave both the infestor and the viper, it would be ridiculous.


Just mass EMP them
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recklessfire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States373 Posts
October 21 2011 17:10 GMT
#1034
Terran didn't really change. they just buffed mech in each mu. TvZ, the thor was so friggin slow and difficult to mass so it could be picked off by mutas with magic box so they brought back a faster, probably cheaper unit that fills the same role. TvP, hellions used to get roflpwned by colossus builds in direct engagements, so i would imagine the new hellion transformation can actually tank a few hits now.

now protoss, tempest seems like a much better replacement for carriers, but the other two units i feel it really depends what tier they are placed at. Replicant is a big WTF tho.
Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
October 21 2011 17:10 GMT
#1035
On October 22 2011 02:09 MeLo wrote:
Wait so the Replicant.

If it works on non-massive units, does that mean I can steal siege mode vs the 1-1-1?

And if the Terran decides to open Cloaked Banshees, does that mean I can use Cloak against them at the other end as well?


you have to get in melee range to copy it, so I doubt you'll get to copy a tank lol
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
October 21 2011 17:10 GMT
#1036
So... im curious how the unit reveals what they are making. It seems that if it flies and its in their base you can just see it anyway?? Im confused on that but I will have to look forward 2 it
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
October 21 2011 17:10 GMT
#1037
All the concepts seem at least decent, and somewhat promising.

My only suggestions:
Battle Hellion looks a little silly. I suggest redesigning the Hellion to look less silly in both its forms.
Rename all new Terran Units.
Rename the Tempest.
WarHound looks a little silly too. May need to to redesign the art.
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
October 21 2011 17:10 GMT
#1038
On October 22 2011 02:09 Forikorder wrote:
does this mean the corrupter is staying?
none of the new units seem like they could fill the role at all


They said so many times they really disliked the corrupter. It's either getting a big overhaul or they'll remove it.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
October 21 2011 17:10 GMT
#1039
On October 22 2011 02:07 rdj107 wrote:
So the new goliath says it's good against enemy mechanicals, I guess that means stalkers? If so then marauders might actually be fit to be removed.


Probably just means that mech will now be viable in TvP. Although, I don't see how any of these deal with the heart of the problem with TvP in the first place: chargelots.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 21 2011 17:10 GMT
#1040
On October 22 2011 02:09 MeLo wrote:
Wait so the Replicant.

If it works on non-massive units, does that mean I can steal siege mode vs the 1-1-1?

And if the Terran decides to open Cloaked Banshees, does that mean I can use Cloak against them at the other end as well?

As far as we know, you could steal sieged tanks, cloak banshees, blue-flame hellions, ghosts... anything but a BC, thor, ultra, or brood lord.
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