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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On October 22 2011 08:56 VoirDire wrote: For what it's worth, I'm a Zerg and moving burrowed banelings sounds completely broken zvt. it's hive tech, so I believe it's not broken at all | ||
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Erik.TheRed
United States1655 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On October 22 2011 08:56 Umpteen wrote: Replicant = death ball, now with infestors. Fuck that. Having a few Infestors won't really help much against Zerg. | ||
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Toadvine
Poland2234 Posts
On October 22 2011 08:47 Bibdy wrote: There's more to the game than resource costs. I get the point he's making. Just look at what a few tanks in TvT do. Replicating a couple of Siege tanks with a Protoss army would make a Terran very wary of being the aggressor (something which they're usually quite happy and eager to be). And as someone else mentioned, EMPing your opponent's Ghosts before they EMP you just gave your ENTIRE army it's shields back. EMP is a bajillion times easier to use than Feedback. I can guarantee you that if Tanks cost 200 gas, TvT would just be bio vs bio. What sense is there in spending 200 gas on a Tank, when you can spend the same amount on a Colossus? Besides, Terrans don't build Tanks in TvP anyway, except in all-ins that you probably couldn't afford to build Replicants against anyways. Replicating Ghosts lategame sounds like something you could do assuming nothing else changes in the HT vs Ghost dynamic. However, this is an absolutely fucking retarded solution to this problem. This is also why the Replicant is an awful, gimmicky unit. It's only useful if Protoss sucks so much, that they simply cannot deal with something with their own units. Do you really want to play a race that has to copy Terran or Zerg units in order to be able to function normally? Blah, I think I'm just going to sleep. I had pretty low expectations of HotS, but they've managed to disappoint me anyway, somehow. | ||
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Paladia
802 Posts
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On October 22 2011 08:54 hugman wrote: Removing Overseers sounds like the most broken thing of all. Tell me, what is Zerg going to do about DT openings? What unit will make a good enough mobile detector to be worth 200 gas? i've been saying this for the past 20 pages  | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 22 2011 08:54 Roxy wrote: I find it funny to see that most protoss can see something with their own race and agree that it may very well be overpowered Most other races see something in their own race that may very well be OP and deny it flat out and try to deflect blame to forcefields I play protoss and I am fully open to the possibility that mass recall for 75 energy may be OP ._. I think "a few" zerg players called the roach in beta overpowered. Something blatantly OP is blatantly OP, no matter what race you play. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
On October 22 2011 08:57 Jayjay54 wrote: it's hive tech, so I believe it's not broken at all I am glad its hive, it will give zerg some awesome abilities late game. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On October 22 2011 08:53 Jayjay54 wrote: no but it's 1 dps. they actually managed to make the new spell less usefull than the old one. why? blizzard. and just for style reasons? why would you grant your suicide troop of psycho killers ("the ones who couldnt get straightened up") grant heal. that doesnt nake sense at all. I think it's more about having your corrupters do something useful when they're not killing colossi, and since you gain money from doing it, you could earn a fair bit if the opposing player just lets you do it, so it's a semi-dangerous harassment. | ||
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TheRealPaciFist
United States1049 Posts
On October 22 2011 08:28 iDrone wrote: Zerg has the least amount of units right now - Lets just increase that gap! GJ blizzard - this is why i'm switching to dota 2. Zerg - gain 2 units, lost the overseer which is more of an upgrade than a unit, net gain about 1.5? Protoss - gain 3 units, lose 2 units, though one of the ones it lost was the mothership, which doesn't entirely count as a unit either, so net gain about 1.5? Terran - gain a mech transform, gain a building, gain 1 other new unit, and lose the ability to get plural thors like any other unit. If you count the first two as +.5 and the thor as -.5, then we're at a net gain of about 1.5 Sure, that might be some ridiculous counting. But the point is, Zerg gained 2 units while losing basically nothing, which is arguably as good as or better than how the other races fared I'm upset that they're replacing the Carrier. The Carrier is a classic! It just needs a buff... *tear* I'm super excited about the new Zerg units and the replicant and oracle (I betcha the oracle will undergo plenty of changes... who knows what kind of spells we'll see on it. I'm guessing it'll fulfill the same sort of role as raven/arbiter) Battle hellion and shredder look fun, though shredder seems kinda OP. Really don't know what to think about the thor/warhound situation. (And why call it a warhound? Warhound should be the name of a vehicle like the hellion, a mech should get another Norse name) | ||
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VillageBC
322 Posts
On October 22 2011 08:58 Paladia wrote: Blizzard said in the multiplayer panel that they didn't want to give Protoss any useful unit because they thought that the deathball would be too strong them. Funny with the replicant they gave them a deathball of any comp desired. | ||
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RetoX
Hong Kong252 Posts
mothership welcome 2.0corsairs. hope they won't be as slow as careers | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On October 22 2011 08:58 Paladia wrote: Blizzard said in the multiplayer panel that they didn't want to give Protoss any useful unit because they thought that the deathball would be too strong them. Yep So Now Replicants Give Protoss Death Ball Infestors Too Infestors(Replicants) Fungal Zerg Storms ZergColossus Shoots Zerg (Fungaled) Army. = Profit I'm Sorry but It's ever more apparent that these gimicky units Are gonna cause kind of OP things to Exist with the combination of a Protoss Death Ball and INfestors in a 1v1 Repeat Combination of Infestors with a Protoss Death Ball Protoss Rip the Heart out of the Swarm | ||
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
Since you have been shitting on me for months with fungal, I thought it only appropriate that I now fungal you back, while dropping storms. GG Dear Terrans, Since you have been shitting on me for months with emp, I thought it only appropriate that I now EMP your ghosts back, while dropping storms. GG  | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
1) The corrupter ability makes no sense to me, and I feel like they should just take out the unit altogether. 2) The new zerg units seem fucking amazing, but I'm a bit wary of removing the overseer... 3) Mass recall on nexus for 75 seems a bit....make it 150 at least! 4) I don't think the new protoss "raider" is such a good idea. 5) Replicant seems like it could be very, very good in certain situations. 6) I'm glad that the terran changes are moderate, since they don't really need much more anyway. Can't wait for this game! | ||
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AwesomeTrout
Canada3 Posts
On October 22 2011 08:58 XRaDiiX wrote: i've been saying this for the past 20 pages Do the words "spore crawler" mean anything to you? | ||
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Andytaker
88 Posts
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FlamingTurd
United States1059 Posts
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On October 22 2011 08:59 TheRealPaciFist wrote: Zerg - gain 2 units, lost the overseer which is more of an upgrade than a unit, net gain about 1.5? Protoss - gain 3 units, lose 2 units, though one of the ones it lost was the mothership, which doesn't entirely count as a unit either, so net gain about 1.5? Terran - gain a mech transform, gain a building, gain 1 other new unit, and lose the ability to get plural thors like any other unit. If you count the first two as +.5 and the thor as -.5, then we're at a net gain of about 1.5 Sure, that might be some ridiculous counting. But the point is, Zerg gained 2 units while losing basically nothing, which is arguably as good as or better than how the other races fared I'm upset that they're replacing the Carrier. The Carrier is a classic! It just needs a buff... *tear* I'm super excited about the new Zerg units and the replicant and oracle (I betcha the oracle will undergo plenty of changes... who knows what kind of spells we'll see on it. I'm guessing it'll fulfill the same sort of role as raven/arbiter) Battle hellion and shredder look fun, though shredder seems kinda OP. Really don't know what to think about the thor/warhound situation. (And why call it a warhound? Warhound should be the name of a vehicle like the hellion, a mech should get another Norse name) Which one is the building they gain? Shredders are units that are produced out of the factory. | ||
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