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We are currently talking about this issue in the mod forum. We take this issue very seriously, and want to find the best way to serve those who want faster results, and those that don't wish to be spoiled.
drivec
Profile Joined May 2009
United States354 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 00:42:47
December 19 2011 00:40 GMT
#1121
iam pretty sure TL has done really good at giveing us news without spoiling it. results dont have to be in title for there to be hype.

I find knowing the results as news for hype is odd. watching the games and not knowing gives me way more hype.

id rather not know the results before watching. even knowing how long the match is can spoil a match for me.

Edit: might as well tell me the ending to every movie I havnt watched.... you can talk about a match being great without spoiling it.same thing as a movie.
starcraft is chess at warp speed
drcatellino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada346 Posts
December 19 2011 00:52 GMT
#1122
I have been pretty busy in the last few weeks and didn't really have time to watch any starcraft at all. I came here a few times and the only thing I heard about was the Naniwa scandal, I had to dig to find about Blizzard cup and last few tournaments winners. That's the issue I was trying to assess in the OP: it's hard to keep interest in casual viewers and acquire new ones if we are so protective about tournament results. We have to spread the amazing moments of victories and make sure everyone that is even mildy interested about starcraft know about how awesome they were.
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Fred Flintstone
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany73 Posts
December 19 2011 00:57 GMT
#1123
Is the discussion about whether spoiler fear is hurting e-sports, hurting e-sports?
Yabba dabba doo!
jorge_the_awesome
Profile Joined January 2011
United States463 Posts
December 19 2011 01:11 GMT
#1124
I dislike how the GSL Blizzard Cup winner was not plastered all over TL. There should be a spoiler free page, but there should also be one for those who have seen the games they want to.
"Clothes are stupid"-Tastosis "Every dragoon that has ever been made is dumber than a bowl of hair" -Day[9] "Where are you going to take this skill now?" Stephano- "To the bank!" "Baby stuck under a car and you can't lift it up? What a wimp"-Artosis
NeilChatelain
Profile Joined March 2011
Peru5 Posts
December 19 2011 01:20 GMT
#1125
I like phant´s idea, but if it is too difficult then I thing the majority has spoken: Tournaments results on front page!
SkimGuy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada709 Posts
December 19 2011 02:14 GMT
#1126
On December 19 2011 10:20 NeilChatelain wrote:
I like phant´s idea, but if it is too difficult then I thing the majority has spoken: Tournaments results on front page!

Too bad majority doesn't rule, team liquid's staff does
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
December 19 2011 02:16 GMT
#1127
Great opportunity for someone to design a website for this type of stuff.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
December 19 2011 03:02 GMT
#1128
On December 19 2011 10:20 NeilChatelain wrote:
I like phant´s idea, but if it is too difficult then I thing the majority has spoken: Tournaments results on front page!

Again, tournament spoilers in news/frontpage is fine. Problem is when someone spoils it in the FORUMS, again if it's on the NEWS SECTION then there is no problem.
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Elefes
Profile Joined September 2011
Russian Federation164 Posts
December 19 2011 06:40 GMT
#1129
Spoilers are OP!!! :D

Actually, maaaaaybe a trigger could be added to the site (like language-switcher), that turns on/off spoilers on the main page. IMO, though, ones who hate spoilers should just sit in an underground bunker till they watch the stuff the don't want to be spoilered, cause no matter how hard community tries, from time to time some 5-post jerks spoil anyways :/

Also, in a way, u guys spoil the fun of passionately discussing just-passed events :/ That's selfish!
BlazeTSR
Profile Joined November 2011
United States218 Posts
December 19 2011 06:47 GMT
#1130
I think giving people the option to have a separate homepage that doesn't have spoilers will work for those who use TL as a home page or favorite.
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 06:52:27
December 19 2011 06:51 GMT
#1131
On December 19 2011 06:24 Apolo wrote:
It's clear by now that TL admins don't care what the community thinks about this issue, because with such an overwhelming positive response about removing the spoilers that plague this site, everything is the same, and so it appears it will be in the near future. I'll just be hoping some good competition comes along for TL. Monopolies are never good. Was there more competition, for sure they wouldn't be doing this.


OR it could be that we are, and have been, talking about this issue as a staff for some time. Perhaps we will even arrive at a decision in the near future! It would be nice if people would take a step back from their keyboard rage and take in the broader perspective sometimes.

I'll even put a message at the top of this thread so that people like you don't have an excuse to press post in this thread again.
ModeratorGodfather
Hikko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 07:00:00
December 19 2011 06:58 GMT
#1132
On December 19 2011 15:51 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 06:24 Apolo wrote:
It's clear by now that TL admins don't care what the community thinks about this issue, because with such an overwhelming positive response about removing the spoilers that plague this site, everything is the same, and so it appears it will be in the near future. I'll just be hoping some good competition comes along for TL. Monopolies are never good. Was there more competition, for sure they wouldn't be doing this.


OR it could be that we are, and have been, talking about this issue as a staff for some time. Perhaps we will even arrive at a decision in the near future! It would be nice if people would take a step back from their keyboard rage and take in the broader perspective sometimes.

I'll even put a message at the top of this thread so that people like you don't have an excuse to press post in this thread again.


Would it be possible to have staff members update a feed of recent tourney results that could appear on the front page or right sidebar that is only enabled with a certain profile option? Users could choose options for which kinds of tournaments they do/don't want to see, how long in the past they want to see (BW or SC2, MLG or NASL or GSL, etc.), if there's a delay or not, so on--perhaps as an extension of what already is posted on Liquipedia
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Xalorian
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada433 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 07:03:45
December 19 2011 07:02 GMT
#1133
If in the futur, TL is showing GSL result just after the match, on the front page, i'm never coming back on TL.

There's no way I can watch GSL match live... It's at 7am in the morning here, when i'm at work. And I don't have any fun watching a game when I know the outcome.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27179 Posts
December 19 2011 07:56 GMT
#1134
On December 19 2011 15:58 Hikko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 15:51 Manifesto7 wrote:
On December 19 2011 06:24 Apolo wrote:
It's clear by now that TL admins don't care what the community thinks about this issue, because with such an overwhelming positive response about removing the spoilers that plague this site, everything is the same, and so it appears it will be in the near future. I'll just be hoping some good competition comes along for TL. Monopolies are never good. Was there more competition, for sure they wouldn't be doing this.


OR it could be that we are, and have been, talking about this issue as a staff for some time. Perhaps we will even arrive at a decision in the near future! It would be nice if people would take a step back from their keyboard rage and take in the broader perspective sometimes.

I'll even put a message at the top of this thread so that people like you don't have an excuse to press post in this thread again.


Would it be possible to have staff members update a feed of recent tourney results that could appear on the front page or right sidebar that is only enabled with a certain profile option? Users could choose options for which kinds of tournaments they do/don't want to see, how long in the past they want to see (BW or SC2, MLG or NASL or GSL, etc.), if there's a delay or not, so on--perhaps as an extension of what already is posted on Liquipedia


I'm not sure if it will be that exactly, but the best solution is a toggleable one, I agree. How that looks is up to smarter people than me.
ModeratorGodfather
Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
December 19 2011 08:04 GMT
#1135
On December 19 2011 16:56 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 15:58 Hikko wrote:
On December 19 2011 15:51 Manifesto7 wrote:
On December 19 2011 06:24 Apolo wrote:
It's clear by now that TL admins don't care what the community thinks about this issue, because with such an overwhelming positive response about removing the spoilers that plague this site, everything is the same, and so it appears it will be in the near future. I'll just be hoping some good competition comes along for TL. Monopolies are never good. Was there more competition, for sure they wouldn't be doing this.


OR it could be that we are, and have been, talking about this issue as a staff for some time. Perhaps we will even arrive at a decision in the near future! It would be nice if people would take a step back from their keyboard rage and take in the broader perspective sometimes.

I'll even put a message at the top of this thread so that people like you don't have an excuse to press post in this thread again.


Would it be possible to have staff members update a feed of recent tourney results that could appear on the front page or right sidebar that is only enabled with a certain profile option? Users could choose options for which kinds of tournaments they do/don't want to see, how long in the past they want to see (BW or SC2, MLG or NASL or GSL, etc.), if there's a delay or not, so on--perhaps as an extension of what already is posted on Liquipedia


I'm not sure if it will be that exactly, but the best solution is a toggleable one, I agree. How that looks is up to smarter people than me.

Toggable? So maybe its easier for everyone just to spoiler it for a few days or so. Then after that TL headlines it
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
December 19 2011 08:05 GMT
#1136
Spoilers suck when you stumble onto them accidentally, but on a site such as this, tournament results are pretty much expected. It would be nonsensical to have to avoid covering things properly just to protect a few viewers.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Surrealz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States449 Posts
December 19 2011 08:18 GMT
#1137
Problem is easily solved, on the front page there is a "News Spoiler Filter" where you can hit a little button and it will unlock all content that is flagged as "spoilered". If you haven't watched the big match yet cause you live halfway across the world, you simply just hit the "Spoiler'd Browsing" tab and you are back in lala land!!!


Really easy fix, I didn't go through 57 pages but I assumed that you guys would have thought of this already (I am constantly surprised by how clever you TLers are )

Do it!
1a2a3a
Skytalker
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden671 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 08:20:37
December 19 2011 08:18 GMT
#1138
I 100% agree with the OP....


On a side note I don't understand how people can go on to TL.net and expect to not have results spoiled.
Jaedong HWAITING!
Farone
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
December 19 2011 08:21 GMT
#1139
imo if you dont want to be spoiled, dont go to news sites watch the games first, then go the sites, so ppl who actually wanna see the news can watch it
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xShoeicide
Profile Joined August 2011
New Zealand41 Posts
December 19 2011 08:31 GMT
#1140
why dont they just have a huge spolier on/off button at the top of the page in some of the blank space near the logo.

you can click it and then heaps of the celebratory photos appear and post match stories and interviews appear.
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