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Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
October 10 2011 11:03 GMT
#201
And I am confused why did IPL3 advertise many casters and 2 streams showing Sc2 games when that actually didn't happen. I was really disappointed by that. Also justin.tv had random lags during semifinals, not to mention I have to use Ultrasurf to even watch anything justin.tv from EU
TheBomb
Profile Joined October 2011
237 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 11:07:17
October 10 2011 11:05 GMT
#202
For me there was quite a bit of lag over the whole event. I don't know if its justin.tv fault or IGN fault, but to me that screwed a lot of matches and decreases my viewer experience.

I would say the tournament was great with a lot of content and quite interesting, but because of the lag problems and some other smaller thing I give it 8.

EDIT: Okay so I read some posts and it seems its justin.tv fault as eastern Europe lags way too much way too often.

But still IGN should either change streaming partner or do something so that viewers everywhere and not only in several countries watch it lag free !
Starcraft 2 needs LAN support
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 10 2011 11:06 GMT
#203
They introduced Lani to us.
Forever grateful.

The LoL finals were a bad choice. I do not care to watch that game at all, even though I play it, and I am pretty sure a lot of EU viewers called it a night there.
I had a good night of sleep.
Avean
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway449 Posts
October 10 2011 11:07 GMT
#204
The website isnt even updated, and no news on teamliquid either about the winner. Who won ? The results are empty at the IPL site and no news on here.
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 11:09:09
October 10 2011 11:08 GMT
#205
On October 10 2011 20:07 Avean wrote:
The website isnt even updated, and no news on teamliquid either about the winner. Who won ? The results are empty at the IPL site and no news on here.

Liquipedia is updated.
+ Show Spoiler +
Stephano won the finals 4-0 over Lucky.
Snidgel
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden54 Posts
October 10 2011 11:16 GMT
#206
Did anyone else almost cry when the music came and Stephano was standing on stage, kissing his trophy and the crowd cheering steph-a-no steph-a-no. I really rooted for the kid and was so fucking happy when he won Epic EPIC ending of a epic tournament. IPL 4 got my money any time
MattO1337
Profile Joined August 2011
United States203 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 12:40:55
October 10 2011 12:39 GMT
#207
The stream overlay is terrible and you need a new one. I couldn't read the players names let alone the score.
Switching to LoL made everyone turn off the stream, I would rather watch a showmatch between Lani and Ting again then watch that boring game. Luckily at our Cleveland Barcraft we were able to go play pool and ping pong for 2 hours until the finals.

Everything else was damn near perfect. 9/10
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Schenkee
Profile Joined October 2010
Scotland322 Posts
October 10 2011 12:44 GMT
#208
On October 10 2011 12:42 Dr.Sin wrote:
Day 4: The switch to LoL on the mainstream before Stephano's semifinals was a terrible idea. It caused the stream to hemorrhage viewers and when they came back, it made 2 of the 3 games unwatchable.


This was a big issue for me, i live in europe and it was already 1:30 when the LoL started, and it made me turn the stream of, i think there were 60kish viewers, once the LoL came on it went to like 20-15k. I undertand it was the LoL grand final, but there were 6 streams, whats wrong with having the LoL final on the stream were they had all the other LoL stuff and keep SC2 on the main stage as most people came to see SC2.

Other then that it was amazing, you had problems not all your fault but you kept us informed, also having 4booths was the best idea ever just match after match, non of this hour wait bs between matchs.

Overall you guys did an good job, there are things to learn but you did better then most for your first live event.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 10 2011 12:58 GMT
#209
I voted 9 because the event was great. Doa/CatsPajamas as a duo were a revelation to me, I loved the chemistry.

Couple of negatives:
- sound of the casters seemed really low at all times. Had to turn up my volume up to max on my laptop just to get a "normal" level of audio, this doesn't seem right.
- That LoL late on Sunday... as a European, this really pissed me off.
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Basique
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)40 Posts
October 10 2011 13:02 GMT
#210
The finals so late really ruined it for europeans...
Keep it basique.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3683 Posts
October 10 2011 13:05 GMT
#211
I only have two negative things:
a) If you are ahead of schedule that is a great thing, be happy about it schedule should atleast get back to normal in due time as these tournaments always have schedule issues, instead of a stupid show match you could have just ask the next set of players if they'd play early, not force them, but just ask them.
b) If you have 7 streams DO NOT play LoL finals on a stream full of starcraft fans, the stream numbers dropped and due to lol taking forever to finish a single game, no one from EU besides all nighters could actually watch semi-finals/finals. I like the fact that you guys start early in the states to get a decent time in EU. But if you would have not done the show match and the panel after the tournament, chances are you would have had way higher stream numbers for the finals.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
October 10 2011 13:10 GMT
#212
Overall amazing tournament but a few problems here and there.

Firstly, the format. Pool play is useless and not interesting. The fact that you had to give prize money to pool play winners in order to give incentive for trying is slightly alarming. Not the biggest fan of Ro32 single elimination either, although it is better than MLG system, which favours the Koreans sooo greatly (foreigners cannot dodge good Koreans in MLG).

Secondly, lag and lol. Sorry, I simply don't enjoy watching MOBA games and having it forced upon me is a bit annoying. Lag was unbearable in stc vs stephano.
Chezus
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 13:23:51
October 10 2011 13:21 GMT
#213
I really really enjoyed this tournament. The games were amazing. The framerate was amazing. The resolution was amazing. The panels to fill downtime were amazing. The interviews on stream five and six were amazing. Lani in particular was amazing. The interviews on the main stage between matches were great.

Feedback:
Pool play format needs to change for reasons already stated in the thread.
The on the last day was really bad for Europeans. I was going to stay up and watch the 2nd semi final and the finals, but when they announced LoL was going to be broadcasted I went to bed. It was getting too late. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy watching League of Legends too, but I'm not going to stay up for that.
The following morning I tried to watch the VODs for the final, but they were pretty hard to find. Also, I wasn't able to find them without seeing spoilers.
- Better player intros. They felt really... awkward. The players were announced, shook hands and started to play. I'd really like to see some sort of pre-match interview, or something.

Other than that, it was perfect. Best tournament (maybe second to GS(T)L) to date.
HoldenR
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands256 Posts
October 10 2011 13:22 GMT
#214
Being from Europe, I tuned out at the LoL interlude. I don't think I'm the only one.

Not to 'hate on e-sports' or whatever, but you do not cross the str(b)eams. Ever. While your target groups may overlap slightly, there is a large community behind SC2 and a good amount has no interest in LoL, and the same is true for LoL. It would be like the world cup of football airing a baseball game between, and while people will certainly stay tuned or return for the next game, when you're broadcasting at 2 AM in Europe, those people will just go to bed.

The good points was.. well, everything. I liked the casters, and it was cool to see IGN stick with their 'core' casters, as well as mix it up and give wheat/dApollo/Doa plenty of casting to do as well. Props. The production value was amazing, as it's been since IPL1 and has been the reason I've been a fan ever since. The technical issues needn't be discussed, they obviously are not your fault, but you get massive bonus points for the Lani/Beast crew thing keeping day 2 alive. Honestly, her, buddy and whoever else was involved with that deserve a big christmas bonus for that one. That not only kept day 2 watchable, it may have just made day 2 the best one you had.

The games were terrific, the players were looked after comfortably and treated well, I cannot say enough nice things about the IPL. This was the best SC2 tournament ever hosted, and although there is room for improvement as mentioned by others, I do not believe any tournament will come close in quality for a long time. Untill IPL4, that is.

Oh, and one final thing, the venue. The one thing MLG, and foreign events in general, has/have, is the amazing crowd. It's what makes Koreans love it, what makes foreigners so proud, and gives you a feel like you're actually experiencing an amazing live sports show. Choose something that at least allows all visitors next time. I might be over 21, but not everyone who is a fan is. Everyone wants as live crowd that's as large as can be, and you should really consider moving to Vegas(Considering they allow all ages in their casinos as visitors, or so I read earlier?).

Thank you, IGN. Thanks to Alex, David, the casters, and everyone else who worked tirelessly to create the best tournament of SC2, and perhaps e-sports as a whole, to date.
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
October 10 2011 13:23 GMT
#215
don't show many times the player interview. How many times did i match the sheth interview 2 days after he joined TL

get rid of the annoying guy with curly air, noone likes him
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Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
October 10 2011 13:24 GMT
#216
I have to agree with the sentiment regarding LoL on finals day. If not for the long LoL break, I'd have stayed up and watched the event until the finals, but semi-finals 1 ended past my regular bedtime already (while being tired from staying up to watch during previous nights), so I couldn't really be bothered with waiting for hours for the SC2 content to resume.

Like many Europeans, you lost me after semi 1.

Other than that, it was mostly a great event. Especially the way the downtime was handled with some improvised things just to keep stuff running was good.
Such flammable little insects!
Peleus
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia420 Posts
October 10 2011 13:28 GMT
#217
Awesome production, thank you so much for giving it to us.

The only criticism I have was the speed of VOD's being put up / being labelled / easy to find.

It's great having a live stream, and it's great having an awesome production, but with the international nature not everyone can watch live, so having an easy catalogue is essential.
MollocH
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany100 Posts
October 10 2011 13:30 GMT
#218
I vote 9 because there are still things to improve. But overall it was an amazing event. Except for the LoL final. I couldn't see the semi final and final of stephano because it would have been way too late in europe.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
October 10 2011 13:32 GMT
#219
I voted 9/10

Positive things:

-Great games/players
-Not a lot of downtime between games
-Stream 5/6 with Lani, Megumi and Allyn
-Boxer playing BW
-Great translator choice with Smix/Susie(and Wax too)
-Anna+Rachel did a good job
-Live on three and the player pannels
-I discovered that CatsPJ is a pretty good caster
-Nice money distribution where everyone got something

Negative things:

-Some stream lag especially on Sunday
-The LoL finals before the 2nd semi final. I understand that you wanted to introduce LoL to sc2 spectators but some people(including me) cannot enjoy MOBA games. Many of us just switched to the devastation stream watching SSF4. The LoL games also ruined the sc2 finals for many Europeans who couldn't stay up all night especially a Sunday night since many people have work/school on Monday.

Overall, really nice tournament
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
October 10 2011 13:32 GMT
#220
aside from the truck that hit the pole, i would give it a 10

low downtime, good casters (would be 11 with day 9 or tastosis ), a lot of good players, great great crowd, superb location (casino hah)
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