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On October 01 2011 08:27 tree.hugger wrote:
I have spent several minutes reading the concerns of people in this thread, and I'm left with the impression that few people on TeamLiquid have ever watched sports on TV. I can't find a single convincing reason why this would be a bad thing or work poorly or something.
Well the real issue is the time block that it would get. If it was something like a few hours then it could be done like many American sports (MLB/NFL/NHL/NBA) where commercials could be ran when there is a substantial break, like after a game. I can't really see this happening though, as large time blocks are usually not available especially at prime time because there is always something that they're broadcasting. They could potentially get the big 2-3 hour time blocks at off hours but I'm not sure how popular it would be at times like that. People have to remember that this will be broadcast mainly to Americans so Europeans that normally watch streams at off hours for Americans won't actually be able to watch it. The more probably outcome is time slots of 1/2 hour to an hour. In this time it's not really feasible to just run commercials whenever its possible if live games are being shown because games can go for long periods of time and ESPN is absolutely not going to want to go 20-30 minutes without cutting to a commercial.
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On October 01 2011 08:28 Saturnize wrote:
This is terrible for E-Sports. It will commercialize everything and people will only play SC2 for the money!
Oh, No! Who would ever want there to be a bigger incentive for more people to play and give us better starcraft! Who would ever want that??? Oh the horror!
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If you're going to show DARTS, then it makes sense to air SC2. It has a much bigger and more appealing demographic for advertising, with a great deal of overlap with Poker.
Edit: Only a bad TV executive would not see the potential of televising SC2 and esports in general.
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It would give me a reason to actually watch TV, so, sure. Get SC2 on ESPN.
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On October 01 2011 08:35 Kieofire wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 08:34 Secret05 wrote:
put it on espn3 because espn3 is streamed free online... they need to make sure its available via internet... gamers are more likely to watch it online than on tv Now that is a lie if you actually read the poll numbers.
No i totally agree with you but, I think it'd be a lot safer to put it on a place that is available via the internet and tv (espn3) instead of just the tv. Yes I totally agree that most of us would watch it on espn2 via the television but, it seems like a much safer investment to just start it on espn3 and see how it goes and then go from there. The last thing we want is to have it get bad ratings. I think it'd be safer to slowly and gradually transition it onto television by having it on both tv and internet.
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I don't have cable and I don't watch tv unless it's an Internet stream, so no, I would not watch it. I also think TV is going to decline. Still, I voted yes, cos hell I did have cable, I would not miss any SC2 content.
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On October 01 2011 08:37 atmuh wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 08:27 tree.hugger wrote:
I have spent several minutes reading the concerns of people in this thread, and I'm left with the impression that few people on TeamLiquid have ever watched sports on TV. I can't find a single convincing reason why this would be a bad thing or work poorly or something. Well the real issue is the time block that it would get. If it was something like a few hours then it could be done like many American sports (MLB/NFL/NHL/NBA) where commercials could be ran when there is a substantial break, like after a game. I can't really see this happening though, as large time blocks are usually not available especially at prime time because there is always something that they're broadcasting. They could potentially get the big 2-3 hour time blocks at off hours but I'm not sure how popular it would be at times like that. People have to remember that this will be broadcast mainly to Americans so Europeans that normally watch streams at off hours for Americans won't actually be able to watch it. The more probably outcome is time slots of 1/2 hour to an hour. In this time it's not really feasible to just run commercials whenever its possible if live games are being shown because games can go for long periods of time and ESPN is absolutely not going to want to go 20-30 minutes without cutting to a commercial.
Actually if the off hours are something like before 4PM EDT then that would be great for Europeans :D
If it was 11PM+ then it would be bad
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On October 01 2011 08:25 Meta wrote:
This would be cool, but adblock doesn't exist on TV, so I think I'd watch it online still. Also, TV subscription is expensive and I don't even have ESPN 2. Sorry Sundance, I still voted yes because it'd be great exposure for SC2 to a wider audience.
You adblock streams? You're a bit of a dick dude.
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Whoever voted no needs to get off of this site.
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What exactly does he mean by starcraft on ESPN? Would he do some sort of one time special, or future MLGs broadcasted on ESPN? ooooooooomg nerdchills
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On October 01 2011 08:42 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 08:37 atmuh wrote:On October 01 2011 08:27 tree.hugger wrote:
I have spent several minutes reading the concerns of people in this thread, and I'm left with the impression that few people on TeamLiquid have ever watched sports on TV. I can't find a single convincing reason why this would be a bad thing or work poorly or something. Well the real issue is the time block that it would get. If it was something like a few hours then it could be done like many American sports (MLB/NFL/NHL/NBA) where commercials could be ran when there is a substantial break, like after a game. I can't really see this happening though, as large time blocks are usually not available especially at prime time because there is always something that they're broadcasting. They could potentially get the big 2-3 hour time blocks at off hours but I'm not sure how popular it would be at times like that. People have to remember that this will be broadcast mainly to Americans so Europeans that normally watch streams at off hours for Americans won't actually be able to watch it. The more probably outcome is time slots of 1/2 hour to an hour. In this time it's not really feasible to just run commercials whenever its possible if live games are being shown because games can go for long periods of time and ESPN is absolutely not going to want to go 20-30 minutes without cutting to a commercial. Actually if the off hours are something like before 4PM EDT then that would be great for Europeans :D If it was 11PM+ then it would be bad
The point is you won't be able to watch it in Europe.
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On October 01 2011 08:39 Secret05 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 08:35 Kieofire wrote:On October 01 2011 08:34 Secret05 wrote:
put it on espn3 because espn3 is streamed free online... they need to make sure its available via internet... gamers are more likely to watch it online than on tv Now that is a lie if you actually read the poll numbers. No i totally agree with you but, I think it'd be a lot safer to put it on a place that is available via the internet and tv (espn3) instead of just the tv. Yes I totally agree that most of us would watch it on espn2 via the television but, it seems like a much safer investment to just start it on espn3 and see how it goes and then go from there. The last thing we want is to have it get bad ratings. I think it'd be safer to slowly and gradually transition it onto television by having it on both tv and internet.
I agree. As much as I love the idea of SC2 on TV, EPSN3 would be a safer bet (especially if it's available internationally). That said, regardless of the channel I think we'd get something more like IPL TV, which I would be completely okay with if it's done reasonably well.
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On October 01 2011 08:38 Defacer wrote:
If you're going to show DARTS, then it makes sense to air SC2. It has a much bigger and more appealing demographic for advertising, with a great deal of overlap with Poker.
Edit: Only a bad TV executive would not see the potential of televising SC2 and esports in general.
The only thing I'm worried about is that sc2 audience will have a large rate of attrition resulting in a dead investment. Granted if there's someone who can make us tune in and give two fucks, it'd be sundance. Godspeed!
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On October 01 2011 08:42 Thurokiir wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 08:25 Meta wrote:
This would be cool, but adblock doesn't exist on TV, so I think I'd watch it online still. Also, TV subscription is expensive and I don't even have ESPN 2. Sorry Sundance, I still voted yes because it'd be great exposure for SC2 to a wider audience. You adblock streams? You're a bit of a dick dude.
If you don't get banned I'll be surprised.
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On October 01 2011 08:27 tree.hugger wrote:
I have spent several minutes reading the concerns of people in this thread, and I'm left with the impression that few people on TeamLiquid have ever watched sports on TV. I can't find a single convincing reason why this would be a bad thing or work poorly or something.
Well my biggest concern is that gamers play the computer more than they watch television. The worst thing that could ever happen is for them to put it on tv and have it get horrible ratings. Having something get horrendous ratings could scare them into never wanting to be involved in it anytime in the near future. But I do think that it would work fine if it was broadcasted via the internet and tv and have the same commercials and everything that they would have on tv. I think they should transition into this slowly and first offer it on tv and the internet at the same time, instead of putting all their eggs in one basket and just praying that it will work.
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On October 01 2011 08:38 Defacer wrote:
Only a bad TV executive would not see the potential of televising SC2 and esports in general.
what huge potential can lie in a niche market?
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its probably not going to be a permanent fixture on espn, just one show for MLG every few months.
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