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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
December 08 2011 12:07 GMT
#1001
On December 08 2011 21:05 NexCa wrote:
he's the best foreign Zerg 4 sure, i really hope he plays in the GSL at some time !


He'll be playing in the Blizzard cup at least, maybe he'll stay in korea for a while longer and try to qualify for Code A? Would be cool to have a foreigner in Code A that will last longer then 1 round >_>
Strivers
Profile Joined November 2010
United States358 Posts
December 08 2011 12:08 GMT
#1002
what time does he usually stream? EST
These little dudes really like the blue stuff..
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 12:15:19
December 08 2011 12:09 GMT
#1003
On December 08 2011 18:23 WArped wrote:
As far as I know, nobody uses Stephanos technique. Adding the hatchery eggs that he uses to reinforce his army to his hotkeys, frees up apm to multitask and spread creep, macro etc. It's an amazing technique to be honest and not many pro Zergs have quite caught on to it. Of course every player is different and are comfortable using different ways of playing but I think Steph's technique has helped him somewhat. It also helps that his decision making is impeccable too.

dimaga uses it, afair sen also, but dimaga almost always uses it since release so no, hes not only one using it, i use it also but it slows your macro, its helpfull for aggresive play but slows your unit production because you have to ctrl click on eggs and than shift, which takes 0.5-1 sec.

it slows your macro because you cannot reselect your hatcheries before you shift add eggs, and after you shift add your eggs you have to select your hatcheries again, which results in slower macro, both methods have its uses
Stork[gm]
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
December 08 2011 12:10 GMT
#1004
On December 08 2011 21:08 Strivers wrote:
what time does he usually stream? EST

12 KST so.. 10 EST? Not sure if I did that correctly.
hyuu
Profile Joined August 2011
163 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 12:26:34
December 08 2011 12:26 GMT
#1005
On December 08 2011 21:10 Megatronn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 21:08 Strivers wrote:
what time does he usually stream? EST

12 KST so.. 10 EST? Not sure if I did that correctly.


He starts streaming at 16:00 CEST
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
December 08 2011 12:29 GMT
#1006
On December 08 2011 21:07 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 21:05 NexCa wrote:
he's the best foreign Zerg 4 sure, i really hope he plays in the GSL at some time !


He'll be playing in the Blizzard cup at least, maybe he'll stay in korea for a while longer and try to qualify for Code A? Would be cool to have a foreigner in Code A that will last longer then 1 round >_>


According to his manager and some other small informations : Not a chance.
"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
Bromazepam
Profile Joined August 2011
820 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 13:00:13
December 08 2011 12:59 GMT
#1007
On December 08 2011 21:26 hyuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 21:10 Megatronn wrote:
On December 08 2011 21:08 Strivers wrote:
what time does he usually stream? EST

12 KST so.. 10 EST? Not sure if I did that correctly.


He starts streaming at 16:00 CEST


Why are you using CEST in December? >_>

Anyway, he usually starts streaming around 15:00 GMT (+00:00).
Saying that something is killing esports is killing esports.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
December 08 2011 13:04 GMT
#1008
On December 08 2011 20:30 CaptObvious wrote:
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I mean, MC is a two time champion, and then slumped a lot, are you going to tell me because he won 2 GSLs that it meant he was better than other Protosses who had yet to win a GSL but were playing more consistent and winning more often, at a more recent point?

just read your sentence angain... it's just confusing as hell because you are jumping back and forth.


At the time of his slump, MC was playing less consistent than other protosses, who had surpassed him since the GSL championships. His GSL champions became irrelevant to his current level of skill.
Robje
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands1044 Posts
December 08 2011 13:37 GMT
#1009
On December 08 2011 19:39 AIOL! wrote:
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On December 08 2011 18:26 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On December 08 2011 18:23 WArped wrote:
As far as I know, nobody uses Stephanos technique. Adding the hatchery eggs that he uses to reinforce his army to his hotkeys, frees up apm to multitask and spread creep, macro etc. It's an amazing technique to be honest and not many pro Zergs have quite caught on to it. Of course every player is different and are comfortable using different ways of playing but I think Steph's technique has helped him somewhat. It also helps that his decision making is impeccable too.


If this is what I think it is, it sounds pretty smart considering you can have those new units instantly come reinforce instead of checking on them later or possibly having a bad rally.

Are you saying he will, if he's making mutas for example, hotkey the eggs making the mutas? Or is it more general, where he just hotkeys all his eggs with 1 of his army hotkeys, or a separate one?


Actually he hotkey when he makes in different groups, depending on the mix etc... for ALL units exept mutas And this technique is bad for mutas because they fly around the map alone with fail rally-points... This is a reason why he doesn't muta/ling/bling s terran, because he has huge diffuculties not to groups his mutas while in eggs since it became a reflex.

I have exactly the same, my mutas so often fly over terran units because they just hatched and fly to my other mutas ><
But I was surprised hardly any pro immediately hotkeys the newly made units, before they are hatched; glad to see stephano do it :D
Holy shit ziek leger
ThePianoDentist
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom698 Posts
December 08 2011 15:42 GMT
#1010
anyone know why he seems to use like only 4 hotkeys, when terrans always try and multi drop him and itd be so much easier to have 1 hotkey for all lings then a couple of hotkeys for separate groups of lings to send a group to each drop?
Brood War Protoss, SC2 Terran/Protoss
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
December 08 2011 15:52 GMT
#1011
On December 09 2011 00:42 ThePianoDentist wrote:
anyone know why he seems to use like only 4 hotkeys, when terrans always try and multi drop him and itd be so much easier to have 1 hotkey for all lings then a couple of hotkeys for separate groups of lings to send a group to each drop?

hes doing great anti-drop play, no need to use hotkeys if you dont need it

he uses diselecting for drops
Stork[gm]
Strivers
Profile Joined November 2010
United States358 Posts
December 08 2011 15:53 GMT
#1012
I'm watching his stream and notice he only uses 4 hotkeys. how does he control all his hatcheries ?
These little dudes really like the blue stuff..
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
December 08 2011 16:55 GMT
#1013
I wonder what Stephano does in Korea all day, since he plays all his games on http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/3282599/DreAm and there are few games per day. He even played customs on that account so I think its his only account there.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 08 2011 17:06 GMT
#1014
On December 08 2011 21:09 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 18:23 WArped wrote:
As far as I know, nobody uses Stephanos technique. Adding the hatchery eggs that he uses to reinforce his army to his hotkeys, frees up apm to multitask and spread creep, macro etc. It's an amazing technique to be honest and not many pro Zergs have quite caught on to it. Of course every player is different and are comfortable using different ways of playing but I think Steph's technique has helped him somewhat. It also helps that his decision making is impeccable too.

dimaga uses it, afair sen also, but dimaga almost always uses it since release so no, hes not only one using it, i use it also but it slows your macro, its helpfull for aggresive play but slows your unit production because you have to ctrl click on eggs and than shift, which takes 0.5-1 sec.

it slows your macro because you cannot reselect your hatcheries before you shift add eggs, and after you shift add your eggs you have to select your hatcheries again, which results in slower macro, both methods have its uses

Hmm, when you build units they all stay selected. Then you just need to Shift+number of your army to add them.

If you build drones+units then you got a problem (or if you build different types of units that you don't want on same groupkey).
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
December 08 2011 17:14 GMT
#1015
too bad hes just playing full time this year and also he doesnt want to stay in KR he said himself that he wants money and KR is not the best place to get it
Master League Zerg - EGIdrA - IMNesTea - EGMachine - EGIncoNtrol - IMLosirA - Destiny - MVPDRG -
Diegopyc
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium26 Posts
December 09 2011 08:55 GMT
#1016
He is 41th right now with a 72% ratio. Not bad after less than a week.
doomed
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia420 Posts
December 09 2011 09:04 GMT
#1017
72% is a lot more than nearly anyone else, only a few other are at that score.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12794 Posts
December 09 2011 09:12 GMT
#1018
On December 09 2011 18:04 doomed wrote:
72% is a lot more than nearly anyone else, only a few other are at that score.

Lol if you start with low MMR it's easy to have good win ratio. Bomber had like 85-90% on his llllllllll account
WriterMaru
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 09:16:25
December 09 2011 09:15 GMT
#1019
On December 09 2011 18:12 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 18:04 doomed wrote:
72% is a lot more than nearly anyone else, only a few other are at that score.

Lol if you start with low MMR it's easy to have good win ratio. Bomber had like 85-90% on his llllllllll account


But he didnt. He loaned an accout that was mid masters and started to play rank 1 masters and low GM at day 1. At day 2 he only played GM. Day 3 he got promoted to GM

Also if you go over his matches from yesteday you can see how much he wins and losses and its close to 70% and thats why he is raising so fast in the GM league
zerker2strong
Profile Joined May 2011
775 Posts
December 09 2011 09:46 GMT
#1020
On December 09 2011 18:12 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 18:04 doomed wrote:
72% is a lot more than nearly anyone else, only a few other are at that score.

Lol if you start with low MMR it's easy to have good win ratio. Bomber had like 85-90% on his llllllllll account


gotta love it when haters do no research and just fail
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