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Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
September 20 2011 14:38 GMT
#101
Like I said in the other thread, that statement doesn't really tell us anything. :/

Looks like they don't value clarification and transparency, what a pity.


Here's hoping they listen to the fans (and common sense) and attempt to clear this up after all. Really leaves one with a sour aftertaste if one of the parties doesn't want to clarify when the other was transparent and open about things. Not to say that they did anything wrong. but this doesn't improve their position in all this, that's for sure.
horste
Profile Joined February 2011
Belgium54 Posts
September 20 2011 14:39 GMT
#102
While I applaud the fact that there's finally a statement from millenium, this essentially solves nothing. Complexity gave a full explanation from their point of view, while you said nothing. I think everyone is still waiting for something that explains what happened from your pov, otherwise we have no choice but to believe what complexity said (not saying they are lying, but there's always 2 sides to a story)
Ansalem
Profile Joined November 2010
564 Posts
September 20 2011 14:41 GMT
#103
This added nothing to our understanding of the situation. I guess they felt they should release something because of the overwhelming support for coL but this didn't help sway people to their side I think.
mechavoc
Profile Joined December 2010
United States664 Posts
September 20 2011 14:45 GMT
#104
On September 20 2011 22:18 Millenium wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Greetings everyone,

As you may now know, it has been announced yesterday that Stephano had been hired by team Complexity, and a few hours later, that he had finally decided to sign a permanent position contract with us, Millenium, under conditions previously fixed with him (without any intermediate overbidding).

Although we are very confident that, from a legal point of view, Millenium isn’t violating any applicable rule or law, we would also like to emphasize our good will to see this situation solved the right way.

We now want to enter a discussion phase with coL to try and find a solution consistent with the professionalism and respectful practices in the growing scene of eSport that both structures wish to promote and support. If anything, this unfortunate series of event has pointed out the impending necessity to ease worldwide communication between structures, and players, to avoid this kind of situation from ever occurring again.
To our fans and to all the people supporting eSport in general, we want to thank you for your everlasting support and for your interest in the values that should be carried by eSport structures
.

As for the people who may have been disappointed, shocked or offended, we would like you to understand that Internet gossip is not always ground truth, and that things are often more complicated than they might seem to be. We would like to apologize for the long time it took us to release a statement, but the last two days have been very stressful and exhausting for everyone involved. In addition, very practical difficulties ranging from busy schedules to time differences partially account for some of the mistakes or misunderstandings that might have led to this complicated situation.
Hoping that you will understand us,

The Millenium Staff

Source : Official news

Thank you for the update

Can you please elaborate on what actually happened beyond " things are often more complicated than they might seem to be" as that doesn't really say anything.

Can you provide some details on what happened from your side of the story as Col has done?
Pred8oar
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany281 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 15:00:34
September 20 2011 14:51 GMT
#105
This "statement" doesnt state anything, wtf?
Could millenium please explain their point of view? Complexity did in detail and since there is only one side i can see right now i think that millenium acted wrong and that there has to be some more waterproof contracting going on because all that french right crap to get out of a signed contratct is just rediculus and not releasing any info and ignoring complexity at first is just awfull management. Millenium shouldnt be able do hide like this. And really i dont get why stephano would be signing with mil since he should only go to french only tourneys while he is top notch.

Edit:
after looking at the mil posts in the other thread i really get the feeling you got now idea how to handle this case, especially saying gogogo watch miltv and if you cant speak french you are fucked LOL we dont care and just cause all of you are mad we make a thread without info thats just dumb.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 14:57:03
September 20 2011 14:56 GMT
#106
what Whiplash said.

Give a play by play of the situation from your perspective please.
This statement is essentially meaningless.
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jib117
Profile Joined June 2011
United States24 Posts
September 20 2011 14:57 GMT
#107
The fact that you are still saying absolutely nothing about what actually happened shows how in the wrong you are.
Himbeer
Profile Joined April 2011
Switzerland176 Posts
September 20 2011 15:02 GMT
#108
Wow, what a great statement.

That explains EVERYTHING!
Roghie
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway18 Posts
September 20 2011 15:04 GMT
#109
he was manipulated to go back.

/thread
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 20 2011 15:24 GMT
#110
On September 20 2011 23:57 jib117 wrote:
The fact that you are still saying absolutely nothing about what actually happened shows how in the wrong you are.


Nope.

We don't know anything, so they could be right for all we know. Which is why we want more information. Can't jump to conclusions yet~
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
September 20 2011 15:37 GMT
#111
Good news is that with more situations like this popping up, the closer we are to at least getting some organization that will enforce contracts immediately. The only time a player will see a contract seriously is if the teams and organizations get together and disallow a player from participating in events under a different team if they breach a contract. It would do no good if only MLG took this stance and GSL didn't since sure the player wouldn't participate at MLG but, he could just go over to GSL. It would hurt him but, not as much. If that same player couldn't participate in anything except small lans, that would hurt him and the team quite a bit since it's less exposure. It's getting to be that time.

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Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 20 2011 15:57 GMT
#112
This statement says nothing. Its basically worthless. Not impressed.
SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
September 20 2011 16:04 GMT
#113
quite the blanket statement you made there.
In addition, very practical difficulties ranging from busy schedules to time differences partially account for some of the mistakes or misunderstandings that might have led to this complicated situation.

good one, especially when Stephano and the team manager were both streaming on the day the entire thing unwrapped. "can't read my emails, im streaming" yeah right
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
September 20 2011 16:04 GMT
#114
Well that was a great summary of stuff we already know, but there's a distinct lack of new information. Normally press releases actually contain useful information, but this one says absolutely nothing. At this point in time I still have to side with CoL, because at this point with the info I have, I believe CoL is winning the PR competition.
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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
September 20 2011 16:05 GMT
#115
On September 21 2011 00:24 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 23:57 jib117 wrote:
The fact that you are still saying absolutely nothing about what actually happened shows how in the wrong you are.


Nope.

We don't know anything, so they could be right for all we know. Which is why we want more information. Can't jump to conclusions yet~


Your statement borders on naivety. The guy hiding in the shadows is doing so for a reason.
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SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4729 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 16:08:37
September 20 2011 16:07 GMT
#116
A permanent contract wow :| Wonder what wiggle room will be allowed for Stephano in future.

On September 21 2011 01:04 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:
quite the blanket statement you made there.
Show nested quote +
In addition, very practical difficulties ranging from busy schedules to time differences partially account for some of the mistakes or misunderstandings that might have led to this complicated situation.

good one, especially when Stephano and the team manager were both streaming on the day the entire thing unwrapped. "can't read my emails, im streaming" yeah right

Pretty much, they could have easily have contacted coL at the time but chose not too I guess.

All this stuff feels dodgy but wait and see how it plays out.

ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
September 20 2011 16:10 GMT
#117
On September 20 2011 22:29 Denizen[9] wrote:
millenium made stephano to sign a permanent contract, thats probably the worst thing stefano could do


A permanent contract? WTF does that even mean?

AzurewinD
Profile Joined November 2010
United States569 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 16:15:52
September 20 2011 16:13 GMT
#118
On September 21 2011 01:04 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:
quite the blanket statement you made there.
Show nested quote +
In addition, very practical difficulties ranging from busy schedules to time differences partially account for some of the mistakes or misunderstandings that might have led to this complicated situation.

good one, especially when Stephano and the team manager were both streaming on the day the entire thing unwrapped. "can't read my emails, im streaming" yeah right



Exactly. That had me baffled more than anything else about Millenium's actions.


The fact that they're even trying to explain their lack of communication with coL away is absolutely laughable considering they were happily streaming as if nothing was wrong while coL was trying to get through to both parties to negotiate yesterday. Neither of them elected to respond.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 20 2011 16:14 GMT
#119
On September 21 2011 01:05 Chargelot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 00:24 Gamegene wrote:
On September 20 2011 23:57 jib117 wrote:
The fact that you are still saying absolutely nothing about what actually happened shows how in the wrong you are.


Nope.

We don't know anything, so they could be right for all we know. Which is why we want more information. Can't jump to conclusions yet~


Your statement borders on naivety. The guy hiding in the shadows is doing so for a reason.


zzzz.

If it's naive to want to hear accountable information from BOTH sides before condemning them then yes I am very naive!
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
MuB
Profile Joined November 2010
United States95 Posts
September 20 2011 16:16 GMT
#120
On September 21 2011 01:10 forgottendreams wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 22:29 Denizen[9] wrote:
millenium made stephano to sign a permanent contract, thats probably the worst thing stefano could do


A permanent contract? WTF does that even mean?



That's a CDI, in short it means they can't fire stephano unless they pay him like 6 month salary and some other stuff.
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