EPTthis whole *player changes team* thing is growing into the soap opera of SC2... -.-
Statement of Millenium on the Stephano situation - Page 7
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
this whole *player changes team* thing is growing into the soap opera of SC2... -.- | ||
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momonami5
United States109 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13426 Posts
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Chargelot
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On September 21 2011 01:14 Gamegene wrote: zzzz. If it's naive to want to hear accountable information from BOTH sides before condemning them then yes I am very naive! It's naive to believe the guys who are scared of the public are scared because they're totally and completely in the right. Do I want information? Of course. But what I don't want is over-hyped nationalist or worthless (the two ideas aren't necessarily mutually exclusive) bullshit, which is all we have gotten from Mil. You don't dodge questions because they reveal you're the good guy. But the Z's are cute, it really shows how mature you are. | ||
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Medrea
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On September 20 2011 22:21 Whiplash wrote: Col released a transparent statement of their view of everything that happened, you guys still haven't. Seriously. What the fuck is wrong with you Millenium. Can we stop with the flowery meta-speech? | ||
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MetalLobster
Canada532 Posts
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snurre
United States118 Posts
On September 21 2011 01:16 MuB wrote: That's a CDI, in short it means they can't fire stephano unless they pay him like 6 month salary and some other stuff. It simply means a work contract without an end date. It can be terminated by agreement from both parts, but Stephano cannot be fired except in serious violations. French labor laws are really strong for employees. | ||
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leperphilliac
United States399 Posts
Even if they didnt' do anything "legally" wrong it's still shady as hell. | ||
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forgottendreams
United States1771 Posts
On September 21 2011 01:16 MuB wrote: That's a CDI, in short it means they can't fire stephano unless they pay him like 6 month salary and some other stuff. I see, after doing a little research a French CDI is pretty standard and less dramatic than the term "permanent contract" implies but is also rather vague to me if that's a typical contract. | ||
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Medrea
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slicknav
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zerker2strong
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Ylrahc
France496 Posts
On September 21 2011 01:13 AzurewinD wrote: Exactly. That had me baffled more than anything else about Millenium's actions. Damn, what baffled me more was the fact that coL didn't even contact M (no, they didn't, reread statements carefully, they contacted Stephano only) before signing Stephano even if Stephano was playing with M and had an agreement about a future contract with them. I guess taking some time to cool his head before answering coL and / or making a (second) flaming statement was a really bad idea, huh ! (yeah, I wasn't a big fan of M first statement either) As a matter of fact, the stream was about an important cup and it was impossible to delay it. The SC2 manager said on this stream he didn't have the time to answer to coL yet (work + stream) and that it'll have to wait to the day after (tuesday = today). | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Chill
Calgary26004 Posts
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fuzzayy
United States99 Posts
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
Or wait, does Millenium even let players out of their cages when its not starcraft time? | ||
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backtoback
Canada1276 Posts
On September 21 2011 01:10 forgottendreams wrote: A permanent contract? WTF does that even mean? Life time contract... | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On September 21 2011 01:21 Chargelot wrote: It's naive to believe the guys who are scared of the public are scared because they're totally and completely in the right. Do I want information? Of course. But what I don't want is over-hyped nationalist or worthless (the two ideas aren't necessarily mutually exclusive) bullshit, which is all we have gotten from Mil. You don't dodge questions because they reveal you're the good guy. But the Z's are cute, it really shows how mature you are. Did I say that I support Millennium and they're completely right? I don't know. I don't KNOW. So I'm not going to call them out saying "WAAAA. YOU RELEASED A BS STATEMENT THEREFORE YOU MUST BE WRONG!" I don't like their statements either pal! But you can't just condemn them over that! for me at least: innocent until proven guilty! | ||
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daviday
Hong Kong33 Posts
Lwl said that everything was done overnight. Basicly there was talk between stephano and complexity for quite some time and counteroffers by millenium. This is proven by statement of Jason from Complexity quoting stephano " i changed my mind ". So basicly , making an offer at 5PM and making him sign right away is just nor really professional from Complexity. As the Last offer was made overnight , its clear that millenium had no idea about it. Why ? ( When you try to recrut a player from ANOTHER team and ANOTHER country and dont want to have this kind of thing hapen you just dont make them sign overnight and annouce it right away that just common sens... ) Its simple and i Dont understand how people can really think that IF millenium was really knowing the last offer they would have WAITED for complexity to annouce stephano to make a counter offer ? For what ? Free drama ? That just plain dumb. That prove that they didnt knew shit about that last offer. Second point : Why would stephano leave a team such as Millenium with tons of great players , for One like Complexity with only low-pro... only for money ? Probably... Or to be the star of a team where he have 10 times the level of his teamate ? I dont think that ideal for complexity. Last thing , as for complexity having more money that millenium or making stephano travel alot... we'll see about that when ATLEAST one of their player come to play a tourney in europe.. Also stephano explicitly said that he DOES NOT WANT to go to korea on long term. ( unlike ToD ) .. i cant see stephano loosing to mutch here.. He will be going back so his team , with former team mate , with people whom he trust and when his 1 year contract will be over.. he will have NO PROBLEM finding another team if he wants too. Cause no team would pass on stephano he is to good , even after this drama. But anyway in 1 year everyone will have forget about that. Last but not least , great move from millenium witch are sure to keep him 1 whole years .GG | ||
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