EPTFor Millennium and Stephano to come out with a statement like this, and then supposedly refuse to discuss this with Complexity seems very unprofessional. Such a shame, Stephano is a monster player, and I want to like him.
Stephano contract situation - Page 35
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
For Millennium and Stephano to come out with a statement like this, and then supposedly refuse to discuss this with Complexity seems very unprofessional. Such a shame, Stephano is a monster player, and I want to like him. | ||
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NeonFox
2373 Posts
But coL did nothing wrong. | ||
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labbe
Sweden1456 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:43 Vul wrote: You really don't think its in the best interest of competitive SC2 to have legally binding contracts? I don't think its in the best interest of competitive SC2 to have teams suing each other, no. | ||
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ellirc
Sweden3286 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:43 TidusX.Yuna wrote: If Complexity really has a case (which we don't know, not enough information as it is) it really would be for the good of E-sports. If contracts can just be broken at will then chaos would ensue. It would be good to have a case which ensures that contracts will be honored in the future. Otherwise the whole industry might even just falla apart. | ||
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Holzmann
United States24 Posts
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Vul
United States685 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:44 WoLFoU wrote: This is not a signature but a verbal agreement. I do not think Col has received the signed contract from what I understand. So for me, Col made the announcement too early without having received the signed contract. Also in French law, there is a time to retract. Gogo Stephano! Come on dude, read the next line. edit: Stephano contacted coL.CatZ and our COO Jason Bass to inform them he had made his final decision and told CatZ "Don't worry I won't change my mind again." He then executed a legally binding contract with our organization. | ||
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Lunas
253 Posts
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archonOOid
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:43 Emporio wrote: I'm okay with the bad PR Complexity is getting from this whole situation. Anyone that honestly thinks they are in the wrong here is not a fan or supporter worth having. may have misread... | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
Considering the Sneaky Snake moves they did with vVvTitan i wouldn't expect anything different from CoL. At all. They are actually going to try and take Legal action if i'm correct after reading the Official Statement. Hrm... Not good | ||
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merz
Sweden2760 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:44 WoLFoU wrote: This is not a signature but a verbal agreement. I do not think Col has received the signed contract from what I understand. So for me, Col made the announcement too early without having received the signed contract. Also in French law, there is a time to retract. Gogo Stephano! T,T "He then executed a legally binding contract with our organization." Also verbal agreements are binding, while hard to prove, they are still legally binding. Also French Law doesn't necessarily apply here. Can people please stop thinking its that simple. "He lives in France therefor French law > all". No, not in a situation like this. | ||
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ShallNoiseUpon
United States311 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:44 dpL wrote: Jason Lake and Jason Bass should merge into one being henceforth referred to as coL.Lake-Bass. That's the only thing that'll resolve this issue. So the world might be mended. coL.Bake. | ||
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
If so then Millennium just showed a great deal of unprofessionalism. | ||
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Emporio
United States3069 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:45 Lunas wrote: So who are Complexity gonna sue Stephano or Millinium? That's a good point. Would Complexity even be able to sue Millenium, regardless of the international law mess? Is there enough standing to take them to court instead of Stephano? | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:44 WoLFoU wrote: This is not a signature but a verbal agreement. I do not think Col has received the signed contract from what I understand. So for me, Col made the announcement too early without having received the signed contract. Also in French law, there is a time to retract. Gogo Stephano! It does not say he contacted CatZ to execute the contract, it says he contacted CatZ, afterwards he executed the contract (which can be implied to mean that he signed it), after which he reneged on his contractual agreement, and (supposedly) he and Mill. have refused to open any discussions with Complexity. | ||
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:45 Lunas wrote: So who are Complexity gonna sue Stephano or Millinium? Legally they could probably sue both. But most likely Millenium (since Stephano probably has no material assets and it would look bad and potentially damage recruitment if Complexity starts suing players). | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:46 XRaDiiX wrote: Even after Reading just now Complexity's Official Statements.. It sounds like they pressured poor Stephano into the Contract.. Considering the Sneaky Snake moves they did with vVvTitan i wouldn't expect anything different from CoL. At all. They are actually going to try and take Legal action if i'm correct after reading the Official Statement. Hrm... Not good Did you even read it? | ||
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
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gulati
United States2241 Posts
Now, on to the more important matters. @Jason Lake: you have my full support - that was the most honest and open release ever, and I seriously hope you guys will push this to limits that Millennium has no idea exist. A most shameful and disrespectul act has been committed today, whether by confusion or on purpose by Millennium. Whatever the reasoning may be from Millennium, you should rest assured that the "popular" choice of Stephano sticking with his heart is the retarded choice, and should not sway your actions whatsoever - those people don't understand what is good for eSports. We, and I mean me and the rest of the community that values professionalism and the true growth of eSports, give you our FULL support, and ask that if you ever need anything from us, don't hesitate to ask. <3 compLexity FIGHTING!!! | ||
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Cathasaigh
United States285 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:45 labbe wrote: I don't think its in the best interest of competitive SC2 to have teams suing each other, no. It definitely is in the best interest of competitive SC2 if that's what it takes to have legally binding contracts. | ||
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