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Hey guys,
This is going to be a short question so if a mod wants to close it, i understand.
I just recently moved from USA to Taiwan and i just got an account here to play Sc2. I was a mid-high masters terran in NA but after winning all 5 placement matches i got placed into platinum here in the more-or-less Korean server.
I'm not suprised about the placement, but im more surprised about my record in platinum.
As of now, I'm having an extremely hard time winning consistantly in PLATINUM on KR/TW server and I'm pretty much freaking out. I dont know if it's cuz i havent played for a while (2 weeks) or is it just cuz this server is just that much better.
I noticed in NA, i have a lot of build order win but on this Asian server, i'm having ZERO build orders. Games are much more macro orientated and I'm pretty much only having a 60% win percentage here in platinum
Keep in mind, on NA i had a 55% win percentage in Masters. Is it just cuz I got bad now or is it just cuz the server's average skill is just that much higher?
Sorry for asking such a short question, but im pretty much depressed right now about starcraft...
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I believe it's a mix of both. Not playing for those 2 weeks lowered your skill level a bit and the KR/TW server is supposed to be the hardest server of them all so I would say you're fine. Just keep at it and I'm sure you'll improve and make your way back up 
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Kr is just that good, your lucky to be able to face such solid opponents!
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It's generally accepted that the Korean server's Masters league players are far better than the NA players in Masters.
You're probably just facing far better players in Platinum than you're used to, and keep in mind that your MMR hasn't really been established yet, so just keep at it!
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Part of it is different playstyles too! So you'll take a bit to adapt, and everyone on the kr server has decent mechancis compared to NA.
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You have gone from one of the weakest servers to the best of the best.
That is to be expected imo.
I have friends who play on NA and they say it is a joke and everyone just cheeses... I have no personal experience of this but that seems to be the general opinion of the people around me who have bought smurf accounts on NA.
Plat in Korea is pretty good ^^
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the playstyle is just different, you will get accustomed to it in a short while and move higher, but tons of factors make it that its harder to get into master there. (and that players there play better is partly an illusion, though the average play time of the leagues are higher there)
And imo the hardest server is eu if you are in asia :3 anyway (omg the lag). My experience was like that, NA more cheese, EU way more macro games, KR more allins.
So go eu if you love macro :p. (oh and if you love long tvts ! ) and aren't grandmaster somwhere already. (then it might not be challenging enough)
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For me, the obvious difference between NA and KR is that KR, everyone has solid micro/macro. I dont see any obvious slip-ups from even the platinum players i'm playing. Build Order wins are almost impossible and their macro is just so much better from what i saw on the NA server.
In NA, i was already struggling with TvZ (I'm just bad at micro vs infestors baneling) so I try to harass my way to victory. In KR, TvZ is basically an Auto-lose for me since no matter how much i harass, they just outmacro me at the end.
People are mentioned all in, i agree, their TvP are much more All-in ish (maybe toss are scared of the 1-1-1 builds)
Oddly enough, my most hated matchup (TvT) turns out to be the most similar to NA and i have a high win rate in that regard..
Regardless, this skill gap is making me quite sad.. it's not like I'm playing diamon people, everyone i play are Plat and they are still pwning me pretty hard..
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Mid masters NA and you will be top 65% DIAMOND, assuming your mid-masters account had a large sample size.
Top 25% masters get into high diamond, from those I've seen transfer over. (Top 10% will scrape masters, Top 5% will get into 50th-25th masters, GM will get 20th-1st percentile masters or for rare exceptions GM - assuming they were active in the GM formation period [idra, huk, etc]).
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Artosis said on a sotg episode that mid masters NA players couldn't get out of Plat in KR. So, this situation is probably quite common.
I think NA and Eu are similar (mid masters NA = low masters Eu?) but KR is ridiculous.
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On September 14 2011 23:30 Micket wrote:
Artosis said on a sotg episode that mid masters NA players couldn't get out of Plat in KR. So, this situation is probably quite common.
I think NA and Eu are similar (mid masters NA = low masters Eu?) but KR is ridiculous.
I don't know about Artosis, but my 2 sample size disagrees with this claim.
I know two top 25% masters on NA that are sitting nicely in High Diamond.
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On September 14 2011 23:34 arbitrageur wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 23:30 Micket wrote:
Artosis said on a sotg episode that mid masters NA players couldn't get out of Plat in KR. So, this situation is probably quite common.
I think NA and Eu are similar (mid masters NA = low masters Eu?) but KR is ridiculous. I don't know about Artosis, but my 2 sample size disagrees with this claim. I know two top 25% masters on NA that are sitting nicely in High Diamond.
Players get better over time. Starting out on the Kr server you get destroyed over and over again.
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KR is just that good. I'm high diamond on EU and NA but don't get that high on KR, still Platinum!
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i think its time to say what everybody from eu has been saying forever
KR>EU>US>SEA
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On September 14 2011 23:40 sVnteen wrote:i think its time to say what everybody from eu has been saying forever KR>EU>US>SEA
I thought this was common knowledge?
People just need to stop taking it personally. Im on NA and i'm quite conscious that the other servers are better. However, it wouldn't change anything for me, at my level, unless I was GM.
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I have only played on KR using a 30 day trial account when the servers merged and was placed in plat and moved up to Diamond quite fast, I then found that I was around the same level that I was at on my mid masters EU account. I do not play NA (low masters) that much, but the ladder is not necessarily easier, but a lot more cheese and all in type play. This is means that you just have to play safe and never really get to a macro game. If you learn to play SC2 on NA and then go to EU or KR, you may have a harder time in the later game than if you came for example from EU.
This is just my opinion from what I have experienced from playing on the 3 ladders but I would say that KR is one league above EU, and then EU is one above NA.
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On September 14 2011 23:39 Swad1000 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 23:34 arbitrageur wrote:On September 14 2011 23:30 Micket wrote:
Artosis said on a sotg episode that mid masters NA players couldn't get out of Plat in KR. So, this situation is probably quite common.
I think NA and Eu are similar (mid masters NA = low masters Eu?) but KR is ridiculous. I don't know about Artosis, but my 2 sample size disagrees with this claim. I know two top 25% masters on NA that are sitting nicely in High Diamond. Players get better over time. Starting out on the Kr server you get destroyed over and over again.
I don't understand what you're trying to say. They got to high diamond on KR after 3 days of playing there, after playing on NA for their whole SC2 life.
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It's not that you got worse, it's that you moved to a server that is simply much much better than NA. I placed into gold on KR/TW (diamond on NA) and I can't say I'm surprised that masters players on NA are placing into plat/diamond on KR/TW.
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Welcome to the KR/TW server! I've been in Taiwan for my 4th year now.
People who play on the KR/TW server are generally really unpredictable but there are some that are actually have really solid play. I can't compare it to the NA server since I grew up playing SC2 from TW.
You're welcome to add me: KoN.894
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