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Ridiculisk
Australia191 Posts
On September 13 2011 02:19 Chill wrote: Crazy. These changes are getting more and more absurd. It seems we should just go to 200/200 and a move into each other. It seems that is indeed what Blizzard are trying to achieve sir. Someone over there must really really like Roach/Hydra/Corruptor... | ||
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Binabik
Germany686 Posts
On September 13 2011 15:08 Ridiculisk wrote: It seems that is indeed what Blizzard are trying to achieve sir. Someone over there must really really like Roach/Hydra/Corruptor... Could you please read the thread? Nothing changed but some people figured out that there could be a possibilty to avoid getting dropped. And this possibility is super riscy because if your clumping doesn't work, everything's dead | ||
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chestnutman
176 Posts
On September 13 2011 14:12 DustyShelf wrote:To clarify my findings: There is a difference between 1.3 and 1.4 in the way that the drop code is handled. In 1.3 it will permit the dropping of units into a tight cluster of units if it cannot find available space within a specific radius. In 1.4 it will delay the drop command until if finds viable space. However in 1.4 if it fails to find available space within a specific period of time the drop command will be cancelled. This is why in my 1.4 test you can see that most of the overlords fail to drop their full contingent of banelings. I can confirm this, this is the way it is handled now. I did some errors earlier with testing. If you guys want to see how it works you can use roaches to make sure there are now holes big enough and you will see the difference. Basically in this version the roaches get stuck on top of the zealots while in 1.4 they dont drop. | ||
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Ruscour
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ch4ppi
Germany802 Posts
Also im Z I dont care about balance atm. Im also watching GSL etc. we will soooo much excitment in fights =/ | ||
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Michaels
419 Posts
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DustyShelf
United Kingdom111 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=265159 | ||
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Deleted User 137586
7859 Posts
On September 13 2011 20:47 DustyShelf wrote: We got a better video describing this problem now via this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=265159 The thread was closed by Nyovne, and the video and explanation is now in the OP of this thread so the discussion can continue here. | ||
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kmh
Finland351 Posts
This has real-world implications, unlike what the title of the thread implies. It is easy to verify for oneself. The topic of this thread is false and misleading and should be changed. However, the severity of the change is smaller than first claimed. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On September 13 2011 20:28 ch4ppi wrote: Wow, one of the most exciting thing in SC2 is getting killed.... seriously?! Also im Z I dont care about balance atm. Im also watching GSL etc. we will soooo much excitment in fights =/ Try reading the thread? Gosh | ||
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Sarang
Australia2363 Posts
That's the saddest part. You don't even need to read the thread, reading the title should be enough. >.> | ||
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DustyShelf
United Kingdom111 Posts
On September 14 2011 00:20 Sarang wrote: That's the saddest part. You don't even need to read the thread, reading the title should be enough. >.> Except the title is actually wrong at present. It isn't untrue. The test is legit, the application in real-game scenarios is somewhat limited though. However I don't think anyone is 100% sure how the change would play out across thousands of games. Its technically possible it could lead to failed baneling bomb at a key moment in a key game. Unlikely... (as the overlord would have to travel over a significantly large and clustered group for a relatively significant amount of time) but possible. I'm hoping a mod will update the title for me at some point as I did not start this thread. I am however, responsible for the videos. *crosses fingers*  <3 | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
The game i love so much is seriously turning to shit. As soon as a new strategy is invented and proven to be effective against something, blizzard is just going to destroy it so that casuals don't have to put to any effort into crushing it? Do people not realize that you are not supposed to be able to handle everything with ease? what is the point of playing the game when it's nothing but "wait until 200/200 ----> see who placed their army 1pixel better than their opponent" sigh. I fear SC2 has become too popular and in order to maximize profit Blizzard decides to cater to the "wrong" crowd. | ||
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Binabik
Germany686 Posts
On September 14 2011 01:35 grobo wrote: I'm not even mad anymore, it's just sad. The game i love so much is seriously turning to shit. As soon as a new strategy is invented and proven to be effective against something, blizzard is just going to destroy it so that casuals don't have to put to any effort into crushing it? Do people not realize that you are not supposed to be able to handle everything with ease? what is the point of playing the game when it's nothing but "wait until 200/200 ----> see who placed their army 1pixel better than their opponent" sigh. I fear SC2 has become too popular and in order to maximize profit Blizzard decides to cater to the "wrong" crowd. Why are there 5 people responding with the exact same answer if the "problem" is already solved -_- | ||
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freetgy
1720 Posts
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Firesilver
United Kingdom1190 Posts
On September 14 2011 01:43 Binabik wrote: Why are there 5 people responding with the exact same answer if the "problem" is already solved -_- Because people just read the title and not the OP. I'm excited to see what the end result of 1.4.1 will be, what will be kept, what will be removed, etc, 1.3 featured some bunker changes that everyone got up in arms about and ended up getting removed, so we should wait until the final patch notes are released. | ||
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
On September 14 2011 01:35 grobo wrote: I'm not even mad anymore, it's just sad. The game i love so much is seriously turning to shit. As soon as a new strategy is invented and proven to be effective against something, blizzard is just going to destroy it so that casuals don't have to put to any effort into crushing it? Do people not realize that you are not supposed to be able to handle everything with ease? what is the point of playing the game when it's nothing but "wait until 200/200 ----> see who placed their army 1pixel better than their opponent" sigh. I fear SC2 has become too popular and in order to maximize profit Blizzard decides to cater to the "wrong" crowd. Really... you should probably re-read the OP. | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
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Montana[TK]
1624 Posts
On September 13 2011 01:56 Montana[TK] wrote: This doesn't affect ZvP because you unload banelings onto "dense areas" when you are already over the army. Told you guys with the FIRST post but no, you had to have 17 pages of discussion, silly TL | ||
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
On September 14 2011 01:57 rezoacken wrote: They dont read anymore, they just see nerf their mind goes blank and start the QQing chain "sc2 sux balls" "Blizz is making a crap game" etc. I know I myself start whining about 2 rax bunker nerfs whenever i see a patch thread regardless of content. | ||
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