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WeedRa
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany815 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 23:00:17
September 06 2011 23:00 GMT
#2741
more and more people playing means more downtimes... we should get used to it :D
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
September 06 2011 23:00 GMT
#2742
got home after a long day, and the site is down
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
CrimsonReign
Profile Joined June 2011
United States14 Posts
September 06 2011 23:01 GMT
#2743
On September 07 2011 07:58 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 07:57 SenSai wrote:
Such an awesome game, shame the site always goes down

I've only see it actually go down a few times usually just timeouts and slow loading times.



lol and the day cycles like this one where the sites down for like 20 mins=O I just bankrupt in middle of it and got the worse starting pick=_=... I'm gonna try to just make tons cash off streaming and merchandise to buy a really good guy as I have 2 people who started with max popularity at 10 and Entertaining streamer trait. Only decent guy I got was just average in everything
fush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada563 Posts
September 06 2011 23:01 GMT
#2744
On September 07 2011 07:55 SevenTenths wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 07:53 fush wrote:
On September 07 2011 07:51 CrimsonReign wrote:
lmao I just went bankrupt too don't feel bad.. still don't get this game I dumped all my cash fighting for this player with 888888 everything and he never won a single match...such a joke. strategy thing in this games broken probably some stupid strategy setup all the top people use that gets them free wins.


why not look at what it is and copy it? then you can get your free wins too with your awesome player.

or i guess you can always, you know, blame the game.


you can check another players strategy? beyond just the name of it of course.

just because my strategy says "Balanced Protoss" doesn't mean it's the default balanced protoss. I've modified each strategy...if they're helping or not I couldn't say, but it makes me feel better ;p


of course, just look at the timing of what they do and try to tweak a custom. obviously you can see the %'s that matter but that's the whole point - to allow you to work it out yourself. i always check opponent strategies when i lose just to get an idea of the timings.

SevenTenths
Profile Joined June 2011
United States45 Posts
September 06 2011 23:02 GMT
#2745
On September 07 2011 07:58 mavsfan0041 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 07:55 SevenTenths wrote:
On September 07 2011 07:53 fush wrote:
On September 07 2011 07:51 CrimsonReign wrote:
lmao I just went bankrupt too don't feel bad.. still don't get this game I dumped all my cash fighting for this player with 888888 everything and he never won a single match...such a joke. strategy thing in this games broken probably some stupid strategy setup all the top people use that gets them free wins.


why not look at what it is and copy it? then you can get your free wins too with your awesome player.

or i guess you can always, you know, blame the game.


you can check another players strategy? beyond just the name of it of course.

just because my strategy says "Balanced Protoss" doesn't mean it's the default balanced protoss. I've modified each strategy...if they're helping or not I couldn't say, but it makes me feel better ;p


After a game that I lose or if I'm scouting out opponents, I'll look at they're strategies. Just click on the individual game on the results page and then scroll down and you can see their strategy. A lot of people have pretty dumb custom ones atm like don't make any army until 10 minutes. What been successful for me is to put a little more macro in early game and a little more aggression mid game.


that doesn't tell their strategy really, as it doesn't tell the AI set up. You can gather information sure, like what their worker cap is, but that's about it. Anything beyond that is guesswork
If you do things right, people won't be entirely sure you've done anything at all
CrimsonReign
Profile Joined June 2011
United States14 Posts
September 06 2011 23:05 GMT
#2746
On September 07 2011 08:02 SevenTenths wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 07:58 mavsfan0041 wrote:
On September 07 2011 07:55 SevenTenths wrote:
On September 07 2011 07:53 fush wrote:
On September 07 2011 07:51 CrimsonReign wrote:
lmao I just went bankrupt too don't feel bad.. still don't get this game I dumped all my cash fighting for this player with 888888 everything and he never won a single match...such a joke. strategy thing in this games broken probably some stupid strategy setup all the top people use that gets them free wins.


why not look at what it is and copy it? then you can get your free wins too with your awesome player.

or i guess you can always, you know, blame the game.


you can check another players strategy? beyond just the name of it of course.

just because my strategy says "Balanced Protoss" doesn't mean it's the default balanced protoss. I've modified each strategy...if they're helping or not I couldn't say, but it makes me feel better ;p


After a game that I lose or if I'm scouting out opponents, I'll look at they're strategies. Just click on the individual game on the results page and then scroll down and you can see their strategy. A lot of people have pretty dumb custom ones atm like don't make any army until 10 minutes. What been successful for me is to put a little more macro in early game and a little more aggression mid game.


that doesn't tell their strategy really, as it doesn't tell the AI set up. You can gather information sure, like what their worker cap is, but that's about it. Anything beyond that is guesswork



which is once again why I asked him to remove the system altogether for a new one=D this is sc2 manager not sc2 coach.. managers don't tell their players how to play they tell them who they are playing with where they are living and what tournaments they are going too..Player should have strategies already learned that theyll use during matches that are based off their stats and traits. Practicing with teammates and doing many many tournaments will learn them other strategies.
mavsfan0041
Profile Joined February 2011
United States306 Posts
September 06 2011 23:07 GMT
#2747
On September 07 2011 08:02 SevenTenths wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 07:58 mavsfan0041 wrote:
On September 07 2011 07:55 SevenTenths wrote:
On September 07 2011 07:53 fush wrote:
On September 07 2011 07:51 CrimsonReign wrote:
lmao I just went bankrupt too don't feel bad.. still don't get this game I dumped all my cash fighting for this player with 888888 everything and he never won a single match...such a joke. strategy thing in this games broken probably some stupid strategy setup all the top people use that gets them free wins.


why not look at what it is and copy it? then you can get your free wins too with your awesome player.

or i guess you can always, you know, blame the game.


you can check another players strategy? beyond just the name of it of course.

just because my strategy says "Balanced Protoss" doesn't mean it's the default balanced protoss. I've modified each strategy...if they're helping or not I couldn't say, but it makes me feel better ;p


After a game that I lose or if I'm scouting out opponents, I'll look at they're strategies. Just click on the individual game on the results page and then scroll down and you can see their strategy. A lot of people have pretty dumb custom ones atm like don't make any army until 10 minutes. What been successful for me is to put a little more macro in early game and a little more aggression mid game.


that doesn't tell their strategy really, as it doesn't tell the AI set up. You can gather information sure, like what their worker cap is, but that's about it. Anything beyond that is guesswork


If you look carefully, you can see when they start making army and how much of it and respond accordingly. Anything beyond the 13-15 minute mark though I don't really see any point in changing stuff. It just seems like enough stuff has happened on both sides to render the builds useless.
R.I.P. CheckSix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
September 06 2011 23:08 GMT
#2748
YAY! merch income up to 175 <3 plus 50 a day from tasteless, at least i have a little financial backing besides sparse tournament results
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3721 Posts
September 06 2011 23:08 GMT
#2749
On September 07 2011 07:50 Steamroller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 07:48 DyEnasTy wrote:
Just came home to find my team went bankrupt. Awesome. I lost my best player.


U can only blame yourself for that.



Well yes and no. You see, I was trying hard to get a new player on my team, since I rolled an awful set of players. I am not exaggerating when I say that I got outbid on about 20-25 players. I eventually just set some bids on players that werent very close to being at the end of bidding. Next morning site was down, so I went to work and when I came home I owned 10 new players including one that I somehow bid $105 per day when I dont remember doing that (he was terrible). I did though have 1 expensive player, but he was worth the high cost. He won a couple tournies.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
WeedRa
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany815 Posts
September 06 2011 23:09 GMT
#2750
was able to snipe a nice player to boost my starting 4 :D

http://sc2manager.org/viewplayer.php?id=189694
SevenTenths
Profile Joined June 2011
United States45 Posts
September 06 2011 23:09 GMT
#2751
On September 07 2011 08:07 mavsfan0041 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 08:02 SevenTenths wrote:
On September 07 2011 07:58 mavsfan0041 wrote:
On September 07 2011 07:55 SevenTenths wrote:
On September 07 2011 07:53 fush wrote:
On September 07 2011 07:51 CrimsonReign wrote:
lmao I just went bankrupt too don't feel bad.. still don't get this game I dumped all my cash fighting for this player with 888888 everything and he never won a single match...such a joke. strategy thing in this games broken probably some stupid strategy setup all the top people use that gets them free wins.


why not look at what it is and copy it? then you can get your free wins too with your awesome player.

or i guess you can always, you know, blame the game.


you can check another players strategy? beyond just the name of it of course.

just because my strategy says "Balanced Protoss" doesn't mean it's the default balanced protoss. I've modified each strategy...if they're helping or not I couldn't say, but it makes me feel better ;p


After a game that I lose or if I'm scouting out opponents, I'll look at they're strategies. Just click on the individual game on the results page and then scroll down and you can see their strategy. A lot of people have pretty dumb custom ones atm like don't make any army until 10 minutes. What been successful for me is to put a little more macro in early game and a little more aggression mid game.


that doesn't tell their strategy really, as it doesn't tell the AI set up. You can gather information sure, like what their worker cap is, but that's about it. Anything beyond that is guesswork


If you look carefully, you can see when they start making army and how much of it and respond accordingly. Anything beyond the 13-15 minute mark though I don't really see any point in changing stuff. It just seems like enough stuff has happened on both sides to render the builds useless.


yeah but you're still guessing..is he 30/70 40/60 50/50 25/75 33/67, did he attack because of what he scouted or was it set to attack, etc etc
If you do things right, people won't be entirely sure you've done anything at all
mavsfan0041
Profile Joined February 2011
United States306 Posts
September 06 2011 23:21 GMT
#2752
One thing that kind of bothers me (although this may happen in actual standings/statistics) is that my guy can win a Bo3 2:1 and still lose ELO.
R.I.P. CheckSix
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
September 06 2011 23:39 GMT
#2753
On September 07 2011 08:21 mavsfan0041 wrote:
One thing that kind of bothers me (although this may happen in actual standings/statistics) is that my guy can win a Bo3 2:1 and still lose ELO.


Thats true with real rating systems why does that bother you? This is a good thing
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
September 06 2011 23:41 GMT
#2754
I found a player with 10 macro and every other stat shitty for pretty cheap on the market.. kekeke I now have a macro training bitch. Then found another player with 0 macro and good stats one day later his macro is 4.
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
September 07 2011 00:04 GMT
#2755
T.T ro128 teamkill

Elitist Asshole Cup #363 Ro128 PipeMOUNTAiN VS PumpLeaf 00:00:00
Elitist Asshole Cup #363 Ro128 PipeMOUNTAiN VS PumpLeaf 00:00:00
mavsfan0041
Profile Joined February 2011
United States306 Posts
September 07 2011 00:04 GMT
#2756
On September 07 2011 08:39 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 08:21 mavsfan0041 wrote:
One thing that kind of bothers me (although this may happen in actual standings/statistics) is that my guy can win a Bo3 2:1 and still lose ELO.


Thats true with real rating systems why does that bother you? This is a good thing


I dunno :3 I would just think that if my player won a series, his ELO would go up and not down. I'm not complaining or anything, I was just wondering how the system works.
R.I.P. CheckSix
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
September 07 2011 00:09 GMT
#2757
The way it works is if you play someone who is significantly lower ELO than you then you barely gain any ELO per win and lose a lot per loss so if you gain 7 per win you get +14 overall and maybe lose 20 for losing to them so the end result is -6.
Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 07 2011 00:11 GMT
#2758
On September 07 2011 09:04 mavsfan0041 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 08:39 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
On September 07 2011 08:21 mavsfan0041 wrote:
One thing that kind of bothers me (although this may happen in actual standings/statistics) is that my guy can win a Bo3 2:1 and still lose ELO.


Thats true with real rating systems why does that bother you? This is a good thing


I dunno :3 I would just think that if my player won a series, his ELO would go up and not down. I'm not complaining or anything, I was just wondering how the system works.


It works like this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

You lose points sometimes when you win 2:1 usually because your ELO rating says that the outcome should be 2:0 in your favor. This is usually due to your players ELO being much higher than your opponents. Since it was only 2:1 you lose points.

mavsfan0041
Profile Joined February 2011
United States306 Posts
September 07 2011 00:20 GMT
#2759
Oh ok yeah that's it. I checked the other players ELO and it was about 120 below my player's at the time. Thanks ^.^
R.I.P. CheckSix
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
September 07 2011 00:46 GMT
#2760
This guys trolling $1000 for this guy?
http://sc2manager.org/viewplayer.php?id=191664
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