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On April 04 2012 04:54 vOdToasT wrote:Copy pasting the conversation instead of taking a screenshot, because it´s easier. Erewien: this is zerg. Erewien: you have no macro, just a move blings. Erewien: i hope your mother dies Erewien has reconnected. You: Look at the replay, you had it won Erewien: ye sure Erewien: muta play shouldnt be allowed to win from there You: Well, you messed up and lost lots of scvs to a counter get sensor towers ―――――――――――――――― Erewien: cant leave there whole army to defend third.. You: Also, you had scattered supply depots instead of a full wall And no of course you cant leave your whole army, but with a sensor tower you know how much I have there And you can move units from your rally point Erewien: how u mean that with that wall You: just wall of the entire path to the bottom right expo with depots and a bunker or two behind so my banelings have to hit the wall and cant reach the bunker / scvs Erewien: hm You: And get a sensor tower, there is no reason not to Also since you push to the north your rally point might as well be to where you are vulnerable to counter attacks which is your third. Your natural has a full wall you can raise at any time, Erewien: k thanks for info  You: and youre pushing to the north so counter attacks are less dangerous from there
Nice! and thanks for the thread bump =] love this one
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I will also try to do this. Most of the time I just leave, or get so frustrated I type the word "lol fuck" or any variation. Will try my hardest to do so. Only gripe would be that I have to actually adapt this mindset so I say it AND feel it instead of saying it and feeling like I want to kill my opponent. Will work on that too.
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For some reason everytime I say glhf, I seem to lose, so I dont say it before games, however I will always gg out. I notice the highest league you get, the more prone you are to getting BM or a reaction at all.
The best good manner I've ever got are from Zergs after my one base timing push which killed it with minimal losses and I got "gg wp nice build" a couple of times. Another where the person made a comment on how cloes the game was before "ggs!" Most of the time it's usually "WOW TERRAN IMBA" "GO **** YOURSELF" "IM REPORTING YOU" or "wow have fun staying in x league forever"
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Gentlemen (and ladies) always GM.
We have this game in common (and share the passion for it) and may even be friends IRL so treat your opponent with respect.
No mercy ingame but honor and respect outside of the game.
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I don't really like this emphasis on good manner. I just act normal, I say things that I mean. At the beginning of the game I don't say anything b/c I always micro my drones to get 2 on the closes patches and I'm not skilled enough to type to the opponent and still do that. If they said glhf to me then I'll usually say hf after I finish microing my drones. Because in all honesty, I don't actually want them to have good luck. At the end, if they all in, I just leave, I don't BM, I just leave. I don't say gg if I didn't actually thing it was a good game, to me that is actually lying. If I play a game and they beat me straight up I always say ggwp because they actually played well. If I played bad and lose, I don't say gg because it wasn't actually a good game. Same if I win and they played really bad or I played bad and still won, I won't say gg. I pretty much only say stuff I mean. I don't like a system where if you aren't specific "good mannered" you are bm. I'm just a normal guy, not nice not mean, just playing a game , I'm not going to go out of my way to make some random stranger feel better or worse about his skill in a video game.
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On April 04 2012 05:57 NinjaMagic wrote:
I only GG when it was a legit good game.. real good battles, close game.. I dont consider 20 min sitting in your base then moving out to get roflstomped to be a good game, neither do i think cheeses are. in short when i find my play failing to match my opponent it wasnt really a game, it was a massacre.
I do always say Gl / glhf tho
GG is no more an actual tell of a "good game" then lol is a tell that the person is physically laughing out loud.
GG is about respect. Respect for yourself that you aren't going to get all flustered when you lose in a way you didn't like, and respect for your opponent that no matter what he did, he beat you fair and square.
If GG was actually only said during a "good game" then many pros wouldn't GG all the time. Because many times they lose to allins.
I'm not saying your method is a terrible method. But I am saying not GGing your opponent (to me) is a slap in the face to your opponent and it's upsetting when your the winner in the "massacre" scenario you described and the other person doesn't acknowledge that and just leaves without GGing. And you'll find yourself getting less frustrated too when you can GG any scenario (even a 6pooler) and leave. At least for me it gives me a very nice sense of self-respect to be able to maintain calm and GG just as I always would.
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On April 04 2012 06:03 EienShinwa wrote:
I will also try to do this. Most of the time I just leave, or get so frustrated I type the word "lol fuck" or any variation. Will try my hardest to do so. Only gripe would be that I have to actually adapt this mindset so I say it AND feel it instead of saying it and feeling like I want to kill my opponent. Will work on that too.
LOL at "lol fuck" ^^
Every single game I say GG... I said GG every single game in BW as well ;p, and every game in LoL...
I think that for me saying GG is too engraved into me, one time I was going into a custom game against the AI to test something and at the start of the game I said GL HF... ;p
The only time I go super manner is when I play someone in which the game is really close and so it will help me because it means that I can play them again, it also lets me practice my off races as I like to off race but I hate doing it on ladder ;p
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I've recently realized that the only manner place on ladder is top 25 masters and up. Not to say it is without exception but instead that the majority of the people are manner as opposed to the minority in any other league and rank. The manner increases as you go up the ladder. top 8 are all robots. they play too many games to be bm.
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On April 04 2012 06:17 udai wrote:
I've recently realized that the only manner place on ladder is top 25 masters and up. Not to say it is without exception but instead that the majority of the people are manner as opposed to the minority in any other league and rank. The manner increases as you go up the ladder. top 8 are all robots. they play too many games to be bm.
I think this is not because they are robots but shows that they have a mindest of trying to improve from their losses and not saying "FUCK YOU I WAS OBVIOUSLY THE BETTER PLAYER" *alt+f4*
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what about the "fuck i messed up, u still suck, gg"
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On April 04 2012 06:13 Berailfor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2012 05:57 NinjaMagic wrote:
I only GG when it was a legit good game.. real good battles, close game.. I dont consider 20 min sitting in your base then moving out to get roflstomped to be a good game, neither do i think cheeses are. in short when i find my play failing to match my opponent it wasnt really a game, it was a massacre.
I do always say Gl / glhf tho GG is no more an actual tell of a "good game" then lol is a tell that the person is physically laughing out loud. GG is about respect. Respect for yourself that you aren't going to get all flustered when you lose in a way you didn't like, and respect for your opponent that no matter what he did, he beat you fair and square. If GG was actually only said during a "good game" then many pros wouldn't GG all the time. Because many times they lose to allins. I'm not saying your method is a terrible method. But I am saying not GGing your opponent (to me) is a slap in the face to your opponent and it's upsetting when your the winner in the "massacre" scenario you described and the other person doesn't acknowledge that and just leaves without GGing. And you'll find yourself getting less frustrated too when you can GG any scenario (even a 6pooler) and leave. At least for me it gives me a very nice sense of self-respect to be able to maintain calm and GG just as I always would.
Dont get me wrong, when I lose like that I shrug it off and que up another game. And yes I understand some people like to use it for "respecting your opponent". I do respect my opponent, I just dont feel its neccesary for me to write stuff I dont mean, which is how I roll in life generally.
Sometimes when I leave without gging they msg me afterwards wondering why no gg, and I tell them my view on the whole GG thing. 50% of the time, every time, they agree and say they dont really mean it, its just a habit of theirs.
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Now that NA seems to be back online, I'll dig up some manner. Will edit it in.
EDIT: Such good sportsmanship, from an opponent who should have beaten me in this particular game, but for a snipe on the third nexus and one truly bad engagement. With all due respect, I will protect their anonymity, somewhat.
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On April 04 2012 06:17 udai wrote:
top 8 are all robots. they play too many games to be bm.
I lol'ed at this.
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On April 04 2012 06:35 NinjaMagic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2012 06:13 Berailfor wrote:On April 04 2012 05:57 NinjaMagic wrote:
I only GG when it was a legit good game.. real good battles, close game.. I dont consider 20 min sitting in your base then moving out to get roflstomped to be a good game, neither do i think cheeses are. in short when i find my play failing to match my opponent it wasnt really a game, it was a massacre.
I do always say Gl / glhf tho GG is no more an actual tell of a "good game" then lol is a tell that the person is physically laughing out loud. GG is about respect. Respect for yourself that you aren't going to get all flustered when you lose in a way you didn't like, and respect for your opponent that no matter what he did, he beat you fair and square. If GG was actually only said during a "good game" then many pros wouldn't GG all the time. Because many times they lose to allins. I'm not saying your method is a terrible method. But I am saying not GGing your opponent (to me) is a slap in the face to your opponent and it's upsetting when your the winner in the "massacre" scenario you described and the other person doesn't acknowledge that and just leaves without GGing. And you'll find yourself getting less frustrated too when you can GG any scenario (even a 6pooler) and leave. At least for me it gives me a very nice sense of self-respect to be able to maintain calm and GG just as I always would. Dont get me wrong, when I lose like that I shrug it off and que up another game. And yes I understand some people like to use it for "respecting your opponent". I do respect my opponent, I just dont feel its neccesary for me to write stuff I dont mean, which is how I roll in life generally. Sometimes when I leave without gging they msg me afterwards wondering why no gg, and I tell them my view on the whole GG thing. 50% of the time, every time, they agree and say they dont really mean it, its just a habit of theirs.
I agree with you. I only say gg if I feel it was actually a good game. I mean....that's what gg means, good game. I often will not gg if my opponent all-ins me. It's not because I think my opponent did something cheap or abusive. It's because I failed. I lost to something that I shouldn't have. I did not play well, the game wasn't hard fought or fun, I just got rolled. It's not bm, it's just true. It wasn't a gg.
I don't see why it has to be bm if someone does not say gg.
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When i first looked at the pictures i though that it was responses from people you met on ladder and i thought it was fake ^^ Sad huh? :D
I never BM, most of my games i say gg but not always. Sometimes i even say gg wp. Sadly the higher you get in ladder the more BM people are, i guess there is a turning point somewhere in master league.
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i have begun to gg every game, even if i fuck up badly/die to cheese, even throwing in some ggwps. I think this has helped my attitude of laddering and makes it easier to learn from my losses instead of being one of the sad people who need to bm on sc2 every time they lose
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To be honest it feels like everyone is overplaying the BM they receive on ladder. I'm in platinum on the EU server.
I "gl hf" at the start of every game.
I "gg wp" before leaving after every loss.
I "ty gg" every time my opponent says gg to me.
Almost all of my opponents type gl hf or something similiar at the start and most of them gg before they leave. I get BM on ladder maybe once in every 20 games.
Maybe I'm just biased or my league is more mannered than every other league but I find it hard to believe that people are getting BM almost every game without having been BM themselves first.
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I'm joining this camp. My rage was getting to the point that I actually broke a mug against my wall due to losing 3 games in a row to the same player on ladder. Cleaning up the mess I made I realized how foolish I was being.
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Whenever I play mech vs protoss or zerg in a macro game they always bm me. Almost in all circumstances. Which is all of my games.
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Or just leave the game. This isnt candyland and no one expects it to be.
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