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Slyce
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom173 Posts
October 20 2011 09:15 GMT
#501
'no gg, no skill'

You need to be saying gg imo. It makes you look bitter if you don't... If I am talking to friends on mumble and my opponent does not gg we mock them for being angry at what is essentially just a practice game.
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bLah.
Profile Joined July 2009
Croatia497 Posts
October 20 2011 09:23 GMT
#502
I always GG.
GL and HF depend on my mood and I don't do it if I'm about to do some all in, but GG is a way of admitting defeat. I know that in this game you won't lose if you don't make any mistakes, scouting, macro, or control mistake. So if someone beats me, it deserves GG even if it's 6pool.
Also when I lose stupidly from some cheese I'm always mad just on myself because I know that all those things are in the game, they are part of the game, so if I didn't take that into account while playing then it's just me playing badly and lazy.
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 09:51:19
October 20 2011 09:50 GMT
#503
On October 20 2011 18:15 Slyce wrote:
'no gg, no skill'

You need to be saying gg imo. It makes you look bitter if you don't... If I am talking to friends on mumble and my opponent does not gg we mock them for being angry at what is essentially just a practice game.

Doesn't "no gg no skill" refer to that you have to lose so you can see what you need to improve? Not manners.

Do you people care much if opponents GG's or not? Personally I don't care if he goes gg or plain quit.
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Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
October 20 2011 09:58 GMT
#504
I try to always gg when I lose, especially when it's a tough match, or I was simply outplayed, but if I lose a game because of a stupid mistake, like not checking for a proxy,losing to something stupid, etc, I tend to be more angry with myself and just leave.
Steam: rook492
chuigo
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia93 Posts
October 20 2011 10:05 GMT
#505
i dont think saying nothing throughout the entire game is rude, i just don't care for what you have to say. I get on sc2 to play games, not read about your life story. Simple Pimple.
Kerm
Profile Joined April 2010
France467 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 10:13:46
October 20 2011 10:13 GMT
#506
I personnally do not use the term 'GG', because typing just two (same) letters is not exactly what i call ''showing respect to your opponent'. I tend to use 'well played' instead, and take some time to write a comment on the game (most of the time what I think i did wrong).
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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
October 20 2011 10:14 GMT
#507
If someone really does kick my ass, I will let them know that they had me all game, and that I admired their play.

If I get cheesed, I wont GG unless it was a quality cheese.
I guess I really do like to be mannered, but overall I just appreciate the play of my opponents a lot. If they beat me, 99% of the time its because they played better than me. So I think they deserve that little bit of gratification at the end.

I've actually had a 2v2 partner and a couple 3v3 partners which I got when I complimented their intense play styles which kicked my ass. So just being a little nice earned me a lot of fun.
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Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
October 20 2011 10:16 GMT
#508
Ive been A LOT more active on ladder this season. However, I cant say that good manner is in abundance. The majority of my 1v1s start with "GLHF" from my opponent - but they dont always end with a GG when I win.

Kind of weird that people will be nice and "GLHF" and even sometimes even try to engage in friendly banter but will just leave without the GG.

Overall, I dont really mind if they "GLHF" or "GG" just thought it was funny that people are eagar to be nice at the beginning of games but dont always leave with good manners.
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centinel4
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria50 Posts
October 20 2011 10:34 GMT
#509
IMO you should only GG if you think it was a "good game". if you get roflstomped, just quit and search for the next game. it was not a gg.
unluckily gg has established itself as a thing you have to say to tap out. GG has no meaning anymore... its just something you type...

so i just GG if i feel it was a GG. if not i just write "you win".
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3682 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 10:40:40
October 20 2011 10:39 GMT
#510
Dunno how it goes on on the NA Ladder, but I'm playing on EU and I recieve (and give) a lot of ggs, well wons and what not. Plus I always gl/hf at the beginning of each game.
But when I feel like it was just not a gg I either just go g (because it was a game afterall) or ng (for no game). Or i just tab out if I got 6 pooled or some shit like that.
Just because I wish my opponnent luck and fun doesn't mean I have to call the game good when I leave, I never understood why just tabing out when the game is lost is bad mannered or not good mannered. I wish you luck and fun at the beginning in the hope that we'll play a good game together, if that does not happen there is no reason for me to gg, has nothing to do with manner imo.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
October 20 2011 10:39 GMT
#511
On October 20 2011 19:34 centinel4 wrote:
IMO you should only GG if you think it was a "good game". if you get roflstomped, just quit and search for the next game. it was not a gg.
unluckily gg has established itself as a thing you have to say to tap out. GG has no meaning anymore... its just something you type...

so i just GG if i feel it was a GG. if not i just write "you win".

saying gg imo is a sign of respect towards your opponent and the game, it doesn't have to mean "a relatively good game, compared to others" imo anygame of starcraft that gets played until there's a clear winner is a good game
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
October 20 2011 10:41 GMT
#512
On October 20 2011 19:39 nttea wrote:
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On October 20 2011 19:34 centinel4 wrote:
IMO you should only GG if you think it was a "good game". if you get roflstomped, just quit and search for the next game. it was not a gg.
unluckily gg has established itself as a thing you have to say to tap out. GG has no meaning anymore... its just something you type...

so i just GG if i feel it was a GG. if not i just write "you win".

saying gg imo is a sign of respect towards your opponent and the game, it doesn't have to mean "a relatively good game, compared to others" imo anygame of starcraft that gets played until there's a clear winner is a good game


Yeah, it's become symbolic of the culture. It's an idiomatic way of showing respect.
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oZe
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden492 Posts
October 20 2011 10:45 GMT
#513
When someone does something that impresses me I usually comment on it. Like if I'm in a 3v3 one ally gets cannon rushed and me and the other guy wins a 30+ minute war of attricion. I will usually give him somekind of feedback. Or if I'm completely crushed after making no apparent misstake in 1v1. I will only engage in BM if somebody starts it. Since I am a grand master in BM and cannot refuse a challenge ;-)

Personally I actually prefer BM it's kindoff a receipt for superior play. Like I played so good the other guy couldn't stand how inferior he was and had to lash out =) The best BM is when you crush a higher rated player and he resorts to calling you a "your league"-noob it just levitates my boat...
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VegaNZ
Profile Joined August 2011
New Zealand317 Posts
October 20 2011 10:46 GMT
#514
Hehe this was a good read. A good reminder that its up to us if we want to improve the ladder feel.

I have noticed no one lately seems to be "gl hf" at the beggining of the game and I've now stopped doing it myself unless my opponent does it.

Us competitive types are touchy

nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
October 20 2011 10:46 GMT
#515
For me gg is like tapping out in wrestling, it's just something you do. Not gging is like instead of tapping out you just run away.
clayn
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany444 Posts
October 20 2011 10:53 GMT
#516
I don't always GG.
But when I do, I'm winning.
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
October 20 2011 10:54 GMT
#517
On October 20 2011 19:46 nam nam wrote:
For me gg is like tapping out in wrestling, it's just something you do. Not gging is like instead of tapping out you just run away.


Hahaha. This made for a great mental picture.
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CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 10:58:23
October 20 2011 10:57 GMT
#518
Always GG if I lose.

GG WP if i got my ass handed to me, or other player made a especially good game, unique or creative.

If they Offensive GG me, I just leave. This has been my policy for years.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
clownfish
Profile Joined December 2010
Angola25 Posts
October 20 2011 16:23 GMT
#519
i always try to get as big of a mental edge possible on my opponent so my practice is: Opponent gl hf -> i say f*ck you, opponent ggs i pm them after game and say not really lol, I am about to win the game -> offensive gg. This has been my practice since beta and has netted me great succes.
oxxo
Profile Joined February 2010
988 Posts
October 20 2011 16:31 GMT
#520
I don't bother with 'glhf' or 'gg' 'manner' on the ladder. With friends sure, or if I actually think it was a good game. Otherwise what's the point?

For all the talk in here, the vast majority of the 'manner' players that say 'glhf' (I just reply 'u2') never 'gg' if they lose, or even worse will rage. There's plenty of 'manner' players that will offensive gg or gloat after the game is over also.
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