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On August 15 2011 03:08 GenoPewPew wrote:A lot of them actually wish there was LAN at big events. Especially since there were disconnects in the GSL and in Blizzcon
Name them. prove you point !! or you are just talking crap
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On August 15 2011 02:29 Antoine wrote: forgive my lack of technical understanding, but isn't this not lan but merely a private server? Most likely. But it's the perfect tool for tournaments (were it legal, and stable)
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On August 15 2011 03:10 Topdoller wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 03:08 GenoPewPew wrote:On August 15 2011 03:02 Topdoller wrote: I dont see pros moaning about it, A lot of them actually wish there was LAN at big events. Especially since there were disconnects in the GSL and in Blizzcon Name them. prove you point !! or you are just talking crap Pretty sure you could ask anyone...? They just don't whine about it since they know blizzard won't put it in.
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On August 15 2011 03:02 Topdoller wrote: You forget, SC1 died a death in western culture no one played it as it was hacked to death, only the Koreans kept it alive. Bnet might not be perfect but it does bring the people together. The region zoning is there to stop high latency.
Have you actually stopped to think why every man and there dog has an XBOX 360. Its the bringing of all the players together that counts. Sonys online version sucks balls
I know a lot of people who dumped their Wii's and PlayStation's too play live with a 360 with their friends online. They get a few beers and have small events and enjoy team play from their own home.
I paid £36 for SC2 and its been well worth the value. The only people who moan about LAN are pirates. I dont see pros moaning about it, You are completely incorrect. Sc1 died because Blizzard didn't support it. Hacks is what kept it alive. Players such as Idra, Incontrol, Day 9, Artosis and Tasteless (aka as the most famous members of our community) would be nothing without things such as iccup (which was illegal). Had it not been for iccup, BW may have died in the west, sc2 would have had far less hype and people like Day 9 wouldn't exist. If it weren't for hacks such as iccup, Idra would have become a physicist, day 9 a mathematician and Artosis would have kept to a job instead of practicing for Starcraft.
Every single pro gamer has complained about no lan. Don't speak on things you know nothing about.
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On August 15 2011 01:49 ImsorryKarelyn wrote: Anyone care to enlighten me on blizzard's stance on no LAN for sc2 beside piracy? I haven't been keeping up with all the news looked into deeply with blizzard's history but hasn't recently Diablo 3 will support cash auction system where they stated in the video interview that "it gonna happen anyway might as well us do it" (not direct quote but somewhere along that line). I'm all at loss with blizzard's philosophy approach right now. Was it all just bs just to maximize profits?
Its because Piracy, not other reasonable explanation. And well, Blizzard is a business they run on profit not on wishful thinking and fan catering.
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Basically, and I mentioned this in the blizz forum, the pirates are getting LAN support, while paying customers are not.
I feel like the business side of ActivisionBlizzard is ruining the player experience. I attended Anaheim myself, and there were periods where lag was noticeable.
I am torn. I can be a paying customer and play legitimately, and then have a hacked copy so I can actually LAN with my brother/friends at parties, and play games on trips/vacations where internet is not an option.
I have hosted several LAN parties, and the cost of finding a venue to hold and support everyone (power, seating, tables, internet, etc) is overwhelming to someone who does this for fun. If I could eliminate the need for internet at the venue, the price would drop dramatically. As a bonus, all the WoW players would be forced to actually participate in the LAN festivities (lol, jk).
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On August 15 2011 03:12 Sneakyz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 03:10 Topdoller wrote:On August 15 2011 03:08 GenoPewPew wrote:On August 15 2011 03:02 Topdoller wrote: I dont see pros moaning about it, A lot of them actually wish there was LAN at big events. Especially since there were disconnects in the GSL and in Blizzcon Name them. prove you point !! or you are just talking crap Pretty sure you could ask anyone...? They just don't whine about it since they know blizzard won't put it in.
Still no names.
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On August 15 2011 03:09 sm0b wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 15 2011 03:02 Inex wrote: This has been discussed to death and Blizzard is adamant about not putting LAN into their game. I also don't understand why someone would need LAN, unless you are in a tournament environment. I think you answered your own question. Also, some people are discussing that xbox and such do so well because they are online but... doesn't Halo (one of the most, if not the most popular online xbox game) support LAN?
Yes, unless you are a pro player and your income depends on it, you shouldn't complain about the lack of LAN and I don't see a lot of pros complaining about it any more. Blizz also said that they were looking into improving the tournament environment by introducing dedicated servers, I believe. I could be wrong, but this LAN hack won't prove anything. It proves that some people still believe that we live in a time where it takes ages to load a news site and all pictures in forums have to be in spoiler tags, not to kill the dial-up dudes. Or maybe they just want private servers. I don't see any of you crying about LAN ever using it, so what's the point really?
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On August 15 2011 03:18 Topdoller wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 03:12 Sneakyz wrote:On August 15 2011 03:10 Topdoller wrote:On August 15 2011 03:08 GenoPewPew wrote:On August 15 2011 03:02 Topdoller wrote: I dont see pros moaning about it, A lot of them actually wish there was LAN at big events. Especially since there were disconnects in the GSL and in Blizzcon Name them. prove you point !! or you are just talking crap Pretty sure you could ask anyone...? They just don't whine about it since they know blizzard won't put it in. Still no names. Ok, stop trolling please. If you really want a name, search Idra interview MLG Dallas, and find the interview by Mister Bitter. Just because someone doesn't give you names doesn't mean your statement is correct.
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On August 15 2011 03:18 Topdoller wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 03:12 Sneakyz wrote:On August 15 2011 03:10 Topdoller wrote:On August 15 2011 03:08 GenoPewPew wrote:On August 15 2011 03:02 Topdoller wrote: I dont see pros moaning about it, A lot of them actually wish there was LAN at big events. Especially since there were disconnects in the GSL and in Blizzcon Name them. prove you point !! or you are just talking crap Pretty sure you could ask anyone...? They just don't whine about it since they know blizzard won't put it in. Still no names. What's the point of writing a list of silly names? You think any professional gamer would not want to have improved performace and not have to deal with lag and disconnects? http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players There's your names.
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they won't release a LAN until they stop selling copies of SC2.. and even then they might not
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On August 15 2011 03:18 Topdoller wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 03:12 Sneakyz wrote:On August 15 2011 03:10 Topdoller wrote:On August 15 2011 03:08 GenoPewPew wrote:On August 15 2011 03:02 Topdoller wrote: I dont see pros moaning about it, A lot of them actually wish there was LAN at big events. Especially since there were disconnects in the GSL and in Blizzcon Name them. prove you point !! or you are just talking crap Pretty sure you could ask anyone...? They just don't whine about it since they know blizzard won't put it in. Still no names. are you here since yesterday ?
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On August 15 2011 03:10 Topdoller wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 03:08 GenoPewPew wrote:On August 15 2011 03:02 Topdoller wrote: I dont see pros moaning about it, A lot of them actually wish there was LAN at big events. Especially since there were disconnects in the GSL and in Blizzcon Name them. prove you point !! or you are just talking crap What kind of a 11 year old post is this? Go to any of the LR threads for "LAN" tournaments, you think any professional wants to play in a lagged out environment and have to even re-game because of DCs? - Tyler/PainUser, Jinro/TT1, Dimaga/MVP, Huk/Idra.
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On August 15 2011 03:12 Micket wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 03:02 Topdoller wrote: You forget, SC1 died a death in western culture no one played it as it was hacked to death, only the Koreans kept it alive. Bnet might not be perfect but it does bring the people together. The region zoning is there to stop high latency.
Have you actually stopped to think why every man and there dog has an XBOX 360. Its the bringing of all the players together that counts. Sonys online version sucks balls
I know a lot of people who dumped their Wii's and PlayStation's too play live with a 360 with their friends online. They get a few beers and have small events and enjoy team play from their own home.
I paid £36 for SC2 and its been well worth the value. The only people who moan about LAN are pirates. I dont see pros moaning about it, You are completely incorrect. Sc1 died because Blizzard didn't support it. Hacks is what kept it alive. Players such as Idra, Incontrol, Day 9, Artosis and Tasteless (aka as the most famous members of our community) would be nothing without things such as iccup (which was illegal). Had it not been for iccup, BW may have died in the west, sc2 would have had far less hype and people like Day 9 wouldn't exist. If it weren't for hacks such as iccup, Idra would have become a physicist, day 9 a mathematician and Artosis would have kept to a job instead of practicing for Starcraft. Every single pro gamer has complained about no lan. Don't speak on things you know nothing about.
Do you know what a LAN is? ICCup is Internet based isnt it where you connect to a central server so all it did was replace BNET, the principle is the same, a central point where people can connect and play together
As i said BNET might not be perfect and i suspect it will improve after HOTS. Don't forget over the coming years Internet latency will improve as technology improves,so think long term.
The world is coming together with the internet, its amazing, Look at WOW with its 40 man raids bring people from all over the region having fun
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On August 15 2011 03:18 Topdoller wrote:
Still no names.
seriously? take a look at any interview after that MLG last season where there were problems in the finals.
We certainly won't go around searching for "evidence" just because you came here and threw some shit.
be informed or don't go into discussions
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On August 15 2011 01:50 FiWiFaKi wrote: It's very tedious to use, and not very recommended for tournament use IMO. There have been less lag spikes and DC... And when using this LAN you have to accept your username will be "Slayer" and also it's important to understand they don't have an English version yet.
I was actually able to change my name very easily in StarFriend.
Also - its not that hard to setup, and they are releasing a stripped installer that is made for JUST lan play, no cinematics, campaign, etc. I think that THIS will be used in tournies.
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On August 15 2011 01:49 GurZtly wrote: For me personaly lan is nothing i miss. I mean me and my 3 friends who play SC2 do not often play against each other cause it got kind of boring after some weeks, and so I want to play ladder... I see the need for Lan for the tournaments, but for the normal player... not. +1, I don't share your love for ladder though... come to think of it, I don't play that much at all, so it doesn't bother me that LAN is missing but I watch a lot of tournaments, and so, if LAN will help eSports, I'm all for it!
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On August 15 2011 03:25 PartyBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 03:10 Topdoller wrote:On August 15 2011 03:08 GenoPewPew wrote:On August 15 2011 03:02 Topdoller wrote: I dont see pros moaning about it, A lot of them actually wish there was LAN at big events. Especially since there were disconnects in the GSL and in Blizzcon Name them. prove you point !! or you are just talking crap What kind of a 11 year old post is this? Go to any of the LR threads for "LAN" tournaments, you think any professional wants to play in a lagged out environment and have to even re-game because of DCs? - Tyler/PainUser, Jinro/TT1, Dimaga/MVP, Huk/Idra.
You mean the same pros who were earning 50 bucks in a LAN tourney before SC2 came along, who now have the chance to win upto 50K .No one still haven't had anyone support their argument by naming the players.
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Do the people advocating LAN in this thread support use of the LAN hack as a means of "convincing" Blizzard?
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On August 15 2011 03:28 Chronald wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 01:50 FiWiFaKi wrote: It's very tedious to use, and not very recommended for tournament use IMO. There have been less lag spikes and DC... And when using this LAN you have to accept your username will be "Slayer" and also it's important to understand they don't have an English version yet. I was actually able to change my name very easily in StarFriend. Also - its not that hard to setup, and they are releasing a stripped installer that is made for JUST lan play, no cinematics, campaign, etc. I think that THIS will be used in tournies.
Any tourney that uses it will immediately have its license removed by Blizzard, any pro who participates in said tourney will have their bnet account banned and the tourney organisers will probably get sued as well.... so no. No one is going to use this
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