EPTOn August 12 2011 11:41 Vul wrote:
I don't think its known why Boxer withdrew, is it?
I don't think its known why Boxer withdrew, is it?
Pretty sure there was a nasl post saying that Slayers/Boxer withdrew for similar reasons to sc2con
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Gao Xi
Hong Kong5178 Posts
Pretty sure there was a nasl post saying that Slayers/Boxer withdrew for similar reasons to sc2con | ||
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bLuR
Canada625 Posts
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eggs
1011 Posts
On August 12 2011 11:44 godemperor wrote: No oGs, Startale, WeMadeFox, TSL, Prime and now SLAYERS!!! NOOOO!!! WHY!!! Bought the ticket already, guess there's no way to refund is there? Wish I knew this before my purchase, no Slayers was just the last straw.  If NASL had any spine they would offer to refund pre-purchased tickets given the recent withdrawal of star players. | ||
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Recoil
United States276 Posts
On August 12 2011 11:44 jmbthirteen wrote: The MLG Championship isn't a larger pool The national championship is a bigger pool the rest of the circuit u are correct is really small | ||
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BoxersGosuGarden
Philippines155 Posts
On August 12 2011 11:31 jmbthirteen wrote: How is this any different than players who don't win money at other tournaments? Look at EG at MLG Anaheim. They didn't have one player win any money. Yet they still paid how much money to go to MLG. Look at TL. Huk is the only player who won money ($500). That didn't cover his cost to fly over, but you don't hear TL bitching about it. Not to mention every other player of theirs that didn't make any money. You are never guaranteed to walk away from a tournament with winnings. Thats why teams use things like ROI to justify sending their players to these tournaments. Teams realize that by going to these events they gain fans, exposure, notariety, and so on. Because most korean teams have little sponsors and could not afford to fly their players around at their leisure. Only a handful of koreans gain enough money to spend for themselves. | ||
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longdivision
United States170 Posts
Overall, in my unqualified opinion, players don't receive enough compensation for the time they put into NASL. 17-50th finishing players get no money (and are subject to fines if they don't show up for games even if they have no chance to make top 16) for 9 weeks of play even though NASL makes money off of broadcasting their games. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On August 12 2011 11:44 jmbthirteen wrote: The MLG Championship isn't a larger pool Doesn´t MLG cover the travel expenses from the Koreans anyways? | ||
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godemperor
Belgium2043 Posts
On August 12 2011 11:43 whateverpeeps wrote: Apparently it's not the teams. It's the committee. Apparently, not all of the teams and players agree with the committee's decision according to some posts on Reddit. But the sc2 con is made up of the coaches from teams, like theWind, gerrad, choya, junwi and others. | ||
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eggs
1011 Posts
On August 12 2011 11:47 BoxersGosuGarden wrote: Because most korean teams have little sponsors and could not afford to fly their players around at their leisure. Only a handful of koreans gain enough money to spend for themselves. it's funny how his example was EG, which is probably the most financially sponsored team. | ||
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Icekommander
Canada483 Posts
On August 12 2011 11:44 jmbthirteen wrote: The MLG Championship isn't a larger pool It is a bigger pool but not by a lot (relatively speaking) 120,000$ for MLG Providence National Championship, 100,000$ for NASL | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On August 12 2011 11:45 eggs wrote: If NASL had any spine they would offer to refund pre-purchased tickets given the recent withdrawal of star players. why? they never promised you that certain players would be in the tournament when you purchased the ticket. | ||
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Gheed
United States972 Posts
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prOxi.Beater
Denmark626 Posts
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On August 12 2011 11:41 thedz wrote: $1k. The other $1k is prize money. This is like your employer asking you hey, you did well, we want to award you with some bonus money that you can get by winning in a tournament. But here's the thing: you have to give us part of your last paycheck if you want to participate in the bonus money competition. Great analogy, tournaments are like work, you get paid for showing up ? No, the point is that even if they lose first round they do not have to pay from their own pocket and they have chance of actually winning money. This is actually better than most tournaments. | ||
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Drock
United States305 Posts
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On August 12 2011 11:47 longdivision wrote: I don't think this is an unreasonable stance for the Korean teams and players to take. Consider this: 9-16th place Korean finishers end up earning no money after travel expenses, give up a extra week of their time and suffer jet lag. It's literally better to finish in the bottom 34 than to place 9-16th for them. Overall, in my unqualified opinion, players don't receive enough compensation for the time they put into NASL. 17-50th finishing players get no money (and are subject to fines if they don't show up for games even if they have no chance to make top 16) for 9 weeks of play even though NASL makes money off of broadcasting their games. Ya, this is probably an issue for most of the European players too | ||
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eggs
1011 Posts
On August 12 2011 11:48 Gheed wrote: So for strong Code B players like Puma, what's the point of even being on a Korean team at all? So you can practice your ass off only for your team to not send you to a $40k tournament where most of the travel is covered? It's no wonder they want to join foreign teams. for the same reason IdrA is on an American team and is no longer living in Korea: because he lives in America and wants to play in American tournaments. Korean people have lives and families in Korea. They aren't just progaming robots. | ||
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firalol
United States51 Posts
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HeroHenry
United States1723 Posts
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BoxersGosuGarden
Philippines155 Posts
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