All remember deleted Queen's (Advisor) reply "A New Queen has emerged"? This is a small addon to Zerg sounds, when you install it, you will hear advisor reply "A New queen has emerged" instead a queen's unit birth sound.
Keep in mind that Blizz doesn't like this stuff. So please know that as with any modification, there is some risk involved. Thank you.
It's very easy to add this reply instead Queen's birth sound. Without any MPQ editing The difference between original reply and this: this one is faster by 15%
Doubt this is legal.. You're not changing an .MPQ file, sure. But still "installing" something that may or may not will give you an advantage over your opponent.
You are still not allowed to change and add files regardless of the method you are using so stop making these threads. I'm still surprised the mods don't close these fast enough. Anything you add or modify can get you banned regardless of how harmless you say the file is blizzard just doesn't want people to be changing things like WoW this is one of the issues right now that people don't get this game isn't WoW you can't just keep changing files they said so themselves in the ToS and EULA please read them.
On August 02 2011 00:05 Genie1 wrote: You are still not allowed to change and add files regardless of the method you are using so stop making these threads. I'm still surprised the mods don't close these fast enough. Anything you add or modify can get you banned regardless of how harmless you say the file is blizzard just doesn't want people to be changing things like WoW this is one of the issues right now that people don't get this game isn't WoW you can't just keep changing files they said so themselves in the ToS and EULA please read them.
1. You don't have to do this if you don't want to. 2. This is a harmless enough change, so there's no chance of this thread creating animosity between TL and Blizzard. 3. People can decide for themselves if they want to take the risk or not of being banned.
That sounds pretty good actually. Was done by blizzard's voice actor?
Yes, it's an official Queen's voice, that not used in game.
Genie1 Open thread about battle.net background image replacements and Brood War unit voice swap.
Doubt this is legal.. You're not changing an .MPQ file, sure. But still "installing" something that may or may not will give you an advantage over your opponent.
Installing? If I create a standart notepad.txt file inside SC2 folder, you will say that again?
They ban everything, who got advatange in multiplayer.
I really doubt it's legal to in some way change a sound in a ladder game. Using this you could otherwise add small specific sounds to a lot of shit to make your game easier. What about a nice trumpet when a banshee cloaks.
Is this considered legal? Because I know that one flaw I noticed immediately from BW to SC2 was that most unit birth sounds, as well as upgrade complete sounds were either not clear/loud enough or sometimes won't even trigger at all.
if this is proven legal it will be pretty awesome.
No one said, that it's legal. But at same time it will not give you advatange, so no reason for ban, because no MPQ editing.
Please, stop discuss bannable/not bannable theme. It's already discussed many pages in other themes about voice swaps, overmind addons, etc. Stop that, please.
I really doubt it's legal to in some way change a sound in a ladder game. Using this you could otherwise add small specific sounds to a lot of shit to make your game easier. What about a nice trumpet when a banshee cloaks.
Well, players already have a lot small advatangeous things: - widescreen monitor. So blizzard will ban everyone, who have "16 : 9" or "16 : 10" ratio resolution? - low detailed graphic, because some thing are more CLEAR and easier to see - high detailed graphic, because on LOW you can't see, what unit warping by WarpGate, when on high you can - using rebinded hotkeys. As example, backspace under big finger on your mouse. And there are no macros or something cheating, just moved button to other location for very fast injections - using GRID hotkey scheme, because many times it's faster and more comfort, than classic scheme. Because you dont need to run with your hand over keyboard. - using small compact keyboard, so you can cover MORE hotkeys by ONE hand
^ thats all not bannable, but gives advatange to players. Huh?
It's no different than SCVs saying "SCV good to go sir!" I don't even see how it would be annoying, let alone providing some mysterious advantage. If it really is providing some huge advantage then zerg is underpowered because our units don't speak english (or korean or whatever language your version SC2 is in).
if this is proven legal it will be pretty awesome.
No one said, that it's legal. But at same time it will not give you advatange, so no reason for ban, because no MPQ editing.
Please, stop discuss bannable/not bannable theme. It's already discussed many pages in other themes about voice swaps, overmind addons, etc. Stop that, please.
I really doubt it's legal to in some way change a sound in a ladder game. Using this you could otherwise add small specific sounds to a lot of shit to make your game easier. What about a nice trumpet when a banshee cloaks.
Well, players already have a lot small advatangeous things: - widescreen monitor. So blizzard will ban everyone, who have "16 : 9" or "16 : 10" ratio resolution? - low detailed graphic, because some thing are more CLEAR and easier to see - high detailed graphic, because on LOW you can't see, what unit warping by WarpGate, when on high you can - using rebinded hotkeys. As example, backspace under big finger on your mouse. And there are no macros or something cheating, just moved button to other location for very fast injections - using GRID hotkey scheme, because many times it's faster and more comfort, than classic scheme. Because you dont need to run with your hand over keyboard. - using small compact keyboard, so you can cover MORE hotkeys by ONE hand
^ thats all not bannable, but gives advatange to players. Huh?
What? You're missing the point here I think. Can I make this Queen change without downloading anything or adding stuff to the game files? No. Can I do those other things without messing with the game files? Yes. So if I change that subtle sound when a mule falls apart to something more distinct that doesn't give me an advantage? Anything that I can not log onto a random computer and have the exact same game as I would at home is too advantageous. This should and probably will be bannable.
Can I make this Queen change without downloading anything or adding stuff to the game files? No.
Half yes. You can just download MPQ-editor and create your own file, that will contain your own files, that can be similar to official files. Why not?
Can I do those other things without messing with the game files? Yes.
Dont understand, what you mean here. You can modify some game sound without editing anything official. You're just adding your files, that created by your hands and programm, that is similar to WinRAR archive.
This should and probably will be bannable.
Ok. But blizzards banning firstly peoples, who cheating and getting advatange in game.
zerg is underpowered because our units don't speak english
Zerg is ok. Many players dont know many things about zergs, like drone spread vs bane/helions, drone burrow vs helions, some other interesting things (like extractor trick, that stops enemy worker, that attached to your scout, etc etc)
Zergs are different, there are no standart bases with factories or something similar. Protoss are easier, because less moves with basebuilding and they have factories and barracks too, but differently named.
i think the original voice spawn is good enough as it is its pretty clear to me
and i have the notifications on the left side as well so i dont see the pointt
This queen's quote is original too. It's located in zerg advisor sounds folder and wasn't used in game. Maybe it was used when zergs had 1 queen, that upgrades at every tier.
This is really cool and I'd love to try it out! On the other hand, every time someone comes up with a tiny mod like this, everyone jumps into the thread saying it's illegal and Blizz will ban you. It's like any mod at all will get you banned. Even something as small as the Medic in the menu or the more definitive team color mod receives scrutiny. Like seriously, is this REALLY going to make or break a ZvX match? Probably not.
Cute little mod. I might add it to my collection of mods at some point, though I'm using the bw sounds atm. These kind of mods only makes starcraft more awesome and it's totally harmless. So stop trying to be self appointed police men for Blizzard.
Good god is it really that big of a deal to risk getting in trouble with Blizzard.
I don't see here any risk, because I dont modify any original MPQ-file. As I said above (read topic please, it's only 2 pages now), there are A LOT things, that givs to players a LOT more advatanges, and they're officially allowed.
She sounds like my mother nagging at me. Ugh. I'll take adjustant and her british accent any day.
Overmind sometimes too robotic and doesn't fits to zerg style. Queen is good for zergs.
i've done MPQ editing for awhile now and haven't been banned. I'm only replacing sounds with cooler ones, replacing battle net pictures as well as adding in better team colors. So far I haven't gotten in trouble or been banned and I've been through several patches and I've heard the MPQ's get checked once the game updates.
So do so at your own risk? I don't feel like there is any real risk here.
zerg is underpowered because our units don't speak english
Zerg is ok. Many players dont know many things about zergs, like drone spread vs bane/helions, drone burrow vs helions, some other interesting things (like extractor trick, that stops enemy worker, that attached to your scout, etc etc)
Zergs are different, there are no standart bases with factories or something similar. Protoss are easier, because less moves with basebuilding and they have factories and barracks too, but differently named.
Man, you completely missed the point. Please read the second half of the sentence you quoted.
Or perhaps you mean, many players don't know many things about zergs, like the zerg language?
Please, stop discuss bannable/not bannable theme. It's already discussed many pages in other themes about voice swaps, overmind addons, etc. Stop that, please.
As long as people keep making addons that make the game easier for a select few by adding files, which Blizzard has said multiple times not to do, there will be discussion of whether it's bannable or not. You can't make a thread like this and expect it not to include cheating/not cheating or bannable/nonbannable discussion. That's silly.
Well, players already have a lot small advatangeous things: - widescreen monitor. So blizzard will ban everyone, who have "16 : 9" or "16 : 10" ratio resolution? - low detailed graphic, because some thing are more CLEAR and easier to see - high detailed graphic, because on LOW you can't see, what unit warping by WarpGate, when on high you can - using rebinded hotkeys. As example, backspace under big finger on your mouse. And there are no macros or something cheating, just moved button to other location for very fast injections - using GRID hotkey scheme, because many times it's faster and more comfort, than classic scheme. Because you dont need to run with your hand over keyboard. - using small compact keyboard, so you can cover MORE hotkeys by ONE hand
^ thats all not bannable, but gives advatange to players. Huh?
Are you really implying that computer equipment is comparable to adding a voice that tells you when your queens have spawned? How's that any different than a voice that tells you that you aren't building an SCV, that you need to build an overlord, or that you're at the magical X amount of workers that will work with the push you're wanting to do?
And that stuff about graphics/hotkeys are readily built into the game by Blizzard. If you want the pluses that come with low graphics or Grid hotkeys, you can readily use them because Blizzard allows them. If you choose not to use them, that's your choice not to use a part of Starcraft 2 that Blizzard themselves have made.
What you're doing is making something yourself, which is obviously a crutch for people that will give them an advantage, and claiming that it's no different than using hotkeys. That doesn't make any sense at all.
Open this with the mpqeditor and navigate to LocalizedData\Sounds\ZergUnitVO\Queen and you'll see a bunch of audio .ogg files. The one titled "Alert_ZergNewQueen.ogg" will have the sound posted in the OP only in Korean.
On August 02 2011 13:29 Mauldo wrote: How's that any different than a voice that tells you that you aren't building an SCV, that you need to build an overlord, or that you're at the magical X amount of workers that will work with the push you're wanting to do?
Uh because a queen already has a unit complete sound. This is just a less headache inducing version.
Normally I don't mind mpq editing, but this is actually messing with the game. :| I don't think actual sounds/models should be modified, because those can change the game.
On August 02 2011 13:24 Existor wrote: I don't see here any risk, because I dont modify any original MPQ-file. As I said above (read topic please, it's only 2 pages now), there are A LOT things, that givs to players a LOT more advatanges, and they're officially allowed.
Overmind sometimes too robotic and doesn't fits to zerg style. Queen is good for zergs.
Always skeptical. Always will be consider it's Blizzard. They were about to sue over World Of Starcraft before people going wth on them (COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE).
God forbid we want our zerg units to tell us in a human language rather than screaming high-pitched nonsense in our ears when we make new units, just like the other two races. Seriously, it's annoying :/
Is it Bannable to use this and the BW Sound pack? Maybe, if blizzard gives a damn for some reason (it's not even MPQ editing!) Cheating? Immoral? Unethical? I find it hard to swallow any argument that it is any of these. The only advantage I'm getting is the lack of ear-piercing headache.
On August 02 2011 13:25 EclipZe wrote: This post doesn't belong on Team Liquid... As interesting as this is, it would be more fitting on another site.
There are plenty of other posts on this site regarding modification of SC2 files. The medic menu screen in particular comes to mind. I think it's great we have a community that is willing to explore these things to make the game experience more enjoyable
On August 02 2011 13:46 GGTesomas wrote: There are plenty of other posts on this site regarding modification of SC2 files. The medic menu screen in particular comes to mind. I think it's great we have a community that is willing to explore these things to make the game experience more enjoyable
Very good post and I agree with that. Blizzards have no reason to ban peoples, who using those small mods. They will start do something vs players, who got advatange in game, using hacks, drophacks, maphacks, and other bad stuff. I dont see anything bad in replacing queen "Squeeesh" birth sound into advisor reply. And same for bnet background replacements.
This is no different from the many texture mods and changing your NA client to Korean sound, same stuff! all over TL. people can use if they like and the ones who doesn't like, don't.. leave it up to blizzard to tell people if its right or wrong.
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The difference between original reply and this: this one is faster by 15%
