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Mvz
Profile Joined April 2003
206 Posts
August 04 2011 06:02 GMT
#881
On August 04 2011 14:11 Drazzyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 13:48 FryktSkyene wrote:
Move to new house.

Stream NA ladder for practice.

Why did they need to be in a house? They can do this at there own home.

they are sitting next to guys all day long talking about the game and figuring this game out. They are using the korean model of training and you are saying they are just laddering for fun....

Sorry, but this is not really a korea model.
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
August 04 2011 06:16 GMT
#882
On August 04 2011 15:02 lol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 14:11 Drazzyo wrote:
On August 04 2011 13:48 FryktSkyene wrote:
Move to new house.

Stream NA ladder for practice.

Why did they need to be in a house? They can do this at there own home.

they are sitting next to guys all day long talking about the game and figuring this game out. They are using the korean model of training and you are saying they are just laddering for fun....

Sorry, but this is not really a korea model.


this seems like it will be more like the swedish pro gaming house, very very casual.

the practice 8 hours a day sounds like your typical new years resolution where you go to the gym for 1 week and stop going after.

if they stick with it and post up good results, i'll be glad to eat my words though
theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
August 04 2011 06:24 GMT
#883
Fast forward a few months:
Announcement- The ultimate EG fan experience!
Come visit the team house for a weekend and meet your favorite EG players. This package will include two nights in the fabled EG team house, autographed gear, and at least 1 game with each pro.

Make it happen, and hook it up with 10% of the profit.
Less money for casters, more money for players.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 04 2011 06:40 GMT
#884
Here we have a team making a serious step in gaming in north America and people Just shit on it. There is no pleasing some people.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 04 2011 06:46 GMT
#885
On August 04 2011 07:14 Duravi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 07:00 iNcontroL wrote:
4 hours of rec play where we stream/ladder

4 hours of cg's where we train with each other / ret / sheth etc etc etc

8 hours a day

Hate if you like but we are going to work hard to get better!

Good to hear. I think the complaint is not that you guys are streaming, in fact that is great. It is mostly that NA ladder is not productive (you have said this yourself). Frustrating to see you guys getting stream sniped by Deezer for hours on end, I'm sure it is even more frustrating for you too. Would you consider streaming on KR ladder even with the latency? Or streaming non-internal practice games with other top players (like how puzzle/huk were streaming their games against each other)?


AZ -> EU is bad and KR is impossible by competitive standards. Is playing NA ladder the best thing to do? Absolutely not. BUT neither is 8 hours of CG. We need to know what our peers are doing, we need to stream (contractually obligated for some) and we NEED to play less serious games otherwise we burn out.

Believe it or not we aren't a bunch of slobs just dicking around. We are actually constructing what we think is the best work schedule with what we have. This wasn't necessarily directed to you personally but more to the people interjecting with "it won't work" or "they need to do X" because quite frankly I am going to go with the opinion of the 7 pros immersed in the game here and the organization surrounding it vs the arm chair quarterback that read a few articles on korean progaming. What we CAN do and what we WANT to do are going to have to find a harmony. It is in OUR best interest to improve as much as possible. Please trust us to do that.
Stiluz
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway688 Posts
August 04 2011 06:47 GMT
#886
I think this is so awesome! I'm just wondering, if NA ladder is any real practice at all for you pros Incontrol? Every time I see someone like Idra stream he rarely runs into pro players.
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
August 04 2011 06:49 GMT
#887
Any plans to ladder on kr instead of NA ladder?
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
pigtheman
Profile Joined January 2009
United States333 Posts
August 04 2011 06:51 GMT
#888
congrats!!
just lost to strifecro today Q.Q
*rawr* d(^_^d)
BossPlaya
Profile Joined September 2010
United States141 Posts
August 04 2011 06:54 GMT
#889
On August 04 2011 15:16 akalarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 15:02 lol wrote:
On August 04 2011 14:11 Drazzyo wrote:
On August 04 2011 13:48 FryktSkyene wrote:
Move to new house.

Stream NA ladder for practice.

Why did they need to be in a house? They can do this at there own home.

they are sitting next to guys all day long talking about the game and figuring this game out. They are using the korean model of training and you are saying they are just laddering for fun....

Sorry, but this is not really a korea model.


this seems like it will be more like the swedish pro gaming house, very very casual.

the practice 8 hours a day sounds like your typical new years resolution where you go to the gym for 1 week and stop going after.

if they stick with it and post up good results, i'll be glad to eat my words though


Considering iNcontroL, Machine, and IdrA were all streaming at the same time today, I'm assuming that this is working out pretty well so far. I also can't imagine the team investing in an entire house and then having the practice regimen go out the window like that. Way too much of a commitment upfront
Paid tha cost to be The Boss.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 04 2011 06:59 GMT
#890
Don't understand people assuming the worst or being negative overall... try and be positive please

We are running a schedule. This isn't a verbal commitment or something this is our job. We aren't a mismatch of progamer friends living in a place we rent together this is our place that our team provided. And you can bet your ass we aren't being paid to sit in here and chill.

I'm not going to keep coming in this thread and talking about how hard we are going to work etc etc.. think it gives off the wrong vibe. Just please try and be a bit more supportive and stop the nay-saying. It doesn't actually help anyone. I'd like it if expectations were really high and you dared to be disappointed as opposed to setting them really low and risking nothing except to be a faceless hater.
JoRamFizzy
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6 Posts
August 04 2011 07:01 GMT
#891
Great to hear Inconrtrol. Guess we'll be seeing lots and lots of EG streaming ^_^
clik
Profile Joined May 2010
United States319 Posts
August 04 2011 07:03 GMT
#892
Man this is like a gamers dream! You and your homies playing games all day in a chill house and getting paid. I'm excited to see the results of all the new practice, or at least hope nothing but great results come from the new enabled regimen. Go go EG sc2!
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
August 04 2011 07:09 GMT
#893
Do you still have time to work out inc? And machine + idra as well i guess.
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
August 04 2011 07:16 GMT
#894
On August 04 2011 15:59 iNcontroL wrote:
Don't understand people assuming the worst or being negative overall... try and be positive please

We are running a schedule. This isn't a verbal commitment or something this is our job. We aren't a mismatch of progamer friends living in a place we rent together this is our place that our team provided. And you can bet your ass we aren't being paid to sit in here and chill.

I'm not going to keep coming in this thread and talking about how hard we are going to work etc etc.. think it gives off the wrong vibe. Just please try and be a bit more supportive and stop the nay-saying. It doesn't actually help anyone. I'd like it if expectations were really high and you dared to be disappointed as opposed to setting them really low and risking nothing except to be a faceless hater.


worst case scenario, with you, machine and idra in the same house, you guys will be the most buff out of all the sc2 teams. ;-) gl with the house.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
August 04 2011 07:20 GMT
#895
On August 04 2011 15:59 iNcontroL wrote:
Don't understand people assuming the worst or being negative overall... try and be positive please

We are running a schedule. This isn't a verbal commitment or something this is our job. We aren't a mismatch of progamer friends living in a place we rent together this is our place that our team provided. And you can bet your ass we aren't being paid to sit in here and chill.

I'm not going to keep coming in this thread and talking about how hard we are going to work etc etc.. think it gives off the wrong vibe. Just please try and be a bit more supportive and stop the nay-saying. It doesn't actually help anyone. I'd like it if expectations were really high and you dared to be disappointed as opposed to setting them really low and risking nothing except to be a faceless hater.


admirable attempt to sway the audience but we both know it doesnt matter. haters are haters. just let your tournament results do the talking. go EG!
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
August 04 2011 07:37 GMT
#896
On August 04 2011 16:20 Angelbelow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 15:59 iNcontroL wrote:
Don't understand people assuming the worst or being negative overall... try and be positive please

We are running a schedule. This isn't a verbal commitment or something this is our job. We aren't a mismatch of progamer friends living in a place we rent together this is our place that our team provided. And you can bet your ass we aren't being paid to sit in here and chill.

I'm not going to keep coming in this thread and talking about how hard we are going to work etc etc.. think it gives off the wrong vibe. Just please try and be a bit more supportive and stop the nay-saying. It doesn't actually help anyone. I'd like it if expectations were really high and you dared to be disappointed as opposed to setting them really low and risking nothing except to be a faceless hater.


haters are haters. just let your tournament results do the talking. go EG!


The tournament results do not put in a good word for them. However I would love for this to catapult EG to Idra's level! Also, I always really wanted axslav to be good cuz his name is cool and one day i was bored and stole a sentry heavy 4 gate push from his ign proleague game and tore up the ladder a while.
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SoniStreet
Profile Joined October 2010
Macedonia98 Posts
August 04 2011 07:44 GMT
#897
Are you guys forgetting that PuMa is part of EG now? And he has been one of the best practice partners? I'm sure he will help them have the "Korean model".
Do the thing you fear and the death of fear is certain
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
August 04 2011 07:52 GMT
#898
Can't wait to see a tour of the house, it looked awesome just through the webcam in SOTG. Seems like you guys have nice room in between every computer as well, not a cluster-fuck like some of the other pro-gaming houses I've seen. Would also love to see some coverage of Puma when/if he comes down and trains with you guys.
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
August 04 2011 08:32 GMT
#899
i honestly think incontrol and idra and the rest of EG guys have the mechanics to match the korean pros like MVP/MMA/DRG, they simply are getting crushed by the metagame.


the game is evolving every week. the korean ladder seems to be thinking of all the powerhouse strats/builds/techniques and the players that dont get the chance to see it and develop counters to it will get rolled over by it.

honestly the solution is probably to play on the korean ladder from US. that way EG will get to experience the metagame changes alot earlier

if you think about it, EG players will feel lag on the korean server but in reality this is essentially training under a handicap. each win you get on the korean server from america is more important because you are playing under lag and even though you lose more it only makes your play stronger

you remove that lag in a tournament setting and you will have a advantage over your opponent who normally plays in a easier environment .


think of it like goku and how he would train with weighted clothing, then when he had to fight against vegeta he took off the weighted clothing which increased his power level. anyway you get my point. this would be like letting EG train like goku and then when they go into a tournament setting them playing without lag like is like they are taking off their weighted clothing to increase their power level

EnSky
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines1003 Posts
August 04 2011 08:40 GMT
#900
Good luck to EG! I know this change is a great motivation for them to work harder.
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